New AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 5800X3D & More
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Date: 2024-02-04
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disclaimer4211
Man AM4 is like like Pascal, It just gives me less reasons to throw it out. The 5800x3d is still not a bad upgrade considering the 50 dollar price difference and its 10 percent faster and can be at times as fast as the 7800x3d if not below it at times or faster than a 7700x.
I'll probably wait till AM6 since on a 5800x3d and 5700x3d can not really be bottlenecked on a 4090, like a whole CPU generation earlier can still run all the way to top tier levels of graphics cards... which is absolutely crazy to me. AM4 motherboards will always be solid, you could never convince me otherwise since all I need to upgrade my CPU on this platform, is either a downloaded MB update or that and a flash drive and load into the bios, with maybe a better cooler, and that's like at best 3-400 bucks, which isn't bad at all and on top of that, you can get Ultra Fast DDR4
for DIRT CHEAP.
Like this platform is still away too good, and AMD knows that if ppl dont want to buy a whole new OS with a new MB, they'll stick to their MB platform, so AMD released a CPU that's somewhat midrange that still can stay in your computer if you want 4090 performance or if you're buying a 5070 or something, that can be worth your money, and if you want, save 50-70 dollars more and you can get 10-25 percent more performance and cache, and basically still have one of the best cpu's on the market on the most solid MB platform ever.
AMD was smart with this one.
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Man AM4 is like like Pascal, It just gives me less reasons to throw it out. The 5800x3d is still not a bad upgrade considering the 50 dollar price difference and its 10 percent faster and can be at times as fast as the 7800x3d if not below it at times or faster than a 7700x.
I'll probably wait till AM6 since on a 5800x3d and 5700x3d can not really be bottlenecked on a 4090, like a whole CPU generation earlier can still run all the way to top tier levels of graphics cards... which is absolutely crazy to me. AM4 motherboards will always be solid, you could never convince me otherwise since all I need to upgrade my CPU on this platform, is either a downloaded MB update or that and a flash drive and load into the bios, with maybe a better cooler, and that's like at best 3-400 bucks, which isn't bad at all and on top of that, you can get Ultra Fast DDR4
for DIRT CHEAP.
Like this platform is still away too good, and AMD knows that if ppl dont want to buy a whole new OS with a new MB, they'll stick to their MB platform, so AMD released a CPU that's somewhat midrange that still can stay in your computer if you want 4090 performance or if you're buying a 5070 or something, that can be worth your money, and if you want, save 50-70 dollars more and you can get 10-25 percent more performance and cache, and basically still have one of the best cpu's on the market on the most solid MB platform ever.
AMD was smart with this one.
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fishdoc7740
I think for the pricing comparison charts it would be easier to quickly read over and/or comprehend if it was a bar chart with bars for each CPU individually set right next to each other beside each title for comparison; with the metric $USD/frame. In every game I can think of the math would work out because in R6 Siege it's maybe $0.50/frame vs. $0.45/frame or something because a $200-300 part divided over 500fps is going to do that. But then on a game that's more intensive it would look more like $1.20/frame vs. $1.35/frame or something. It would even work for comparisons like the 5800X vs. the 5800X3D back at launch where the result would be something to the effect of notice the more expensive CPU is actually less per frame due to the increased L3 costing more but also being FPS or gaming focused. Anyways, just my 2 cents on what would be easier at a glance i.e. in this comparison chart lower is better rather than quickly looping through it in my head to make sure I understand that a bar going more left with negative percent means better. I can see why you represented it that way (the math is simple enough but the result is more meaningful), but it's harder to look down the stack of titles and notice oh okay, the 5700X3D is better bang for the buck.
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I think for the pricing comparison charts it would be easier to quickly read over and/or comprehend if it was a bar chart with bars for each CPU individually set right next to each other beside each title for comparison; with the metric $USD/frame. In every game I can think of the math would work out because in R6 Siege it's maybe $0.50/frame vs. $0.45/frame or something because a $200-300 part divided over 500fps is going to do that. But then on a game that's more intensive it would look more like $1.20/frame vs. $1.35/frame or something. It would even work for comparisons like the 5800X vs. the 5800X3D back at launch where the result would be something to the effect of notice the more expensive CPU is actually less per frame due to the increased L3 costing more but also being FPS or gaming focused. Anyways, just my 2 cents on what would be easier at a glance i.e. in this comparison chart lower is better rather than quickly looping through it in my head to make sure I understand that a bar going more left with negative percent means better. I can see why you represented it that way (the math is simple enough but the result is more meaningful), but it's harder to look down the stack of titles and notice oh okay, the 5700X3D is better bang for the buck.
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RiixuHG
Genuine question - I notice whenever you test CPU’s you typically test with the best GPU available (4090). For lower budget GPU’s such as the $150-250 range, would it make sense to test them with GPU’s that you would likely pair them with given that price range in a real world scenario
I understand the tests are about making it as CPU reliant as possible, but I think less informed customers might see a graph of a say 5600x getting trounced by a 7800x3d when paired with a 4090 and think that it’s possibly a bad purchase, even though the graph looks a lot different if it’s a 4070. Is there a possibility for your testing to include that in the future Or (I’m probably answering my own question here), is that just a ton of variables as well as time added in your teams workflow that could make it not worth it Great vid and thanks for all of your hard work.
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Genuine question - I notice whenever you test CPU’s you typically test with the best GPU available (4090). For lower budget GPU’s such as the $150-250 range, would it make sense to test them with GPU’s that you would likely pair them with given that price range in a real world scenario
I understand the tests are about making it as CPU reliant as possible, but I think less informed customers might see a graph of a say 5600x getting trounced by a 7800x3d when paired with a 4090 and think that it’s possibly a bad purchase, even though the graph looks a lot different if it’s a 4070. Is there a possibility for your testing to include that in the future Or (I’m probably answering my own question here), is that just a ton of variables as well as time added in your teams workflow that could make it not worth it Great vid and thanks for all of your hard work.
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RoyBrown777
You completely miss the mark in your productivity bench marks. It's poor information. The most likely person to be getting an upgrade to these CPU's are gamers rocking a 2000 or 3000 series CPU, or a lower end 5000 series CPU. I have a 3900X CPU and would like to know how it compares in productivity, is it worth losing productivity performance for the gaming performance. You could have at least included most of the 3000 series CPU's especially when it came to productivity. Showing the 1600AF and the Threadripper CPU's most of the chart is absolutely useless. Sure the 3900X is not a common part, but how many people are rocking the highest end thread ripper, and they are going to what Buy a whole new rig for a 5700X3D, what even is this information Lazy.
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You completely miss the mark in your productivity bench marks. It's poor information. The most likely person to be getting an upgrade to these CPU's are gamers rocking a 2000 or 3000 series CPU, or a lower end 5000 series CPU. I have a 3900X CPU and would like to know how it compares in productivity, is it worth losing productivity performance for the gaming performance. You could have at least included most of the 3000 series CPU's especially when it came to productivity. Showing the 1600AF and the Threadripper CPU's most of the chart is absolutely useless. Sure the 3900X is not a common part, but how many people are rocking the highest end thread ripper, and they are going to what Buy a whole new rig for a 5700X3D, what even is this information Lazy.
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Ace-Brigade
I have had my AM4 for about 5 years now and I have absolutely no plan in abandoning it for probably another five to six years. I have a 5600x (wife's), 5600x (son's) 5800X (going to be selling as is extra) a 5800X3D (main gaming PC) and a 5900X (micro ITX in living room for gaming).
I can still play all of the most recent titles in 4K at very good frame rates with my RTX 3080, SSD and 32BG of XMP enabled DDR4 memory.
Too many people chase the latest and greatest upgrade when in actuality hardware these days is so fast that you don't honestly need it. An example is in what is arguably a very resource hungry game (Harry Potter) My 5900X, 3080 combo gets about 90 FPS on 4K with the settings maxed.. This is more than enough for me.
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I have had my AM4 for about 5 years now and I have absolutely no plan in abandoning it for probably another five to six years. I have a 5600x (wife's), 5600x (son's) 5800X (going to be selling as is extra) a 5800X3D (main gaming PC) and a 5900X (micro ITX in living room for gaming).
I can still play all of the most recent titles in 4K at very good frame rates with my RTX 3080, SSD and 32BG of XMP enabled DDR4 memory.
Too many people chase the latest and greatest upgrade when in actuality hardware these days is so fast that you don't honestly need it. An example is in what is arguably a very resource hungry game (Harry Potter) My 5900X, 3080 combo gets about 90 FPS on 4K with the settings maxed.. This is more than enough for me.
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carlkidd752
About a year ago now, I needed a new PC. At the time, Intel and AMD were markedly more expensive than AM4 and I despise W11. So I did a sideways replacement upgrade. Aorus Master X570 to X570s and 5800X to 5800X3D. Pretty much the only game I'm playing is Guild Wars 2, so not a noticeable uplift, but quieter. FYI, the PowerColor Hellhound 7900XTX doesn't fit in my handsome Fractal North Case along with the Arctic LFII 280. Had to front mount the AIO with fans as exhaust and also removed the front dust filter. Needed 1mm, maybe 3 for the end of the GPU to clear the AIO. A standard width AIO would have plenty of clearance. AM4 versus AM5/Intel: Cost/performance at the time of purchase, plus W10 versus W11.
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About a year ago now, I needed a new PC. At the time, Intel and AMD were markedly more expensive than AM4 and I despise W11. So I did a sideways replacement upgrade. Aorus Master X570 to X570s and 5800X to 5800X3D. Pretty much the only game I'm playing is Guild Wars 2, so not a noticeable uplift, but quieter. FYI, the PowerColor Hellhound 7900XTX doesn't fit in my handsome Fractal North Case along with the Arctic LFII 280. Had to front mount the AIO with fans as exhaust and also removed the front dust filter. Needed 1mm, maybe 3 for the end of the GPU to clear the AIO. A standard width AIO would have plenty of clearance. AM4 versus AM5/Intel: Cost/performance at the time of purchase, plus W10 versus W11.
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febiannurr4356
I have been wondering about AMD Longevity for a while now. Lets say I buy AMD 1600 with b350 mobo, there's no way right that I just change my old CPU and change it to the newer Ryzen 5700x3d with that old mobo. Not only the newer model has better feature, like PCIe gen 3, isn't there would be some sort of bottleneck happening to my newer CPU. it would be different if I bought AMD 3600 with B450 Mobo, If I upgrade that then it make sense since its only 1 generational apart.
So my question is, did AMD longevity is really something we should look up for just because its the same socket doesn't mean you should use it right
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I have been wondering about AMD Longevity for a while now. Lets say I buy AMD 1600 with b350 mobo, there's no way right that I just change my old CPU and change it to the newer Ryzen 5700x3d with that old mobo. Not only the newer model has better feature, like PCIe gen 3, isn't there would be some sort of bottleneck happening to my newer CPU. it would be different if I bought AMD 3600 with B450 Mobo, If I upgrade that then it make sense since its only 1 generational apart.
So my question is, did AMD longevity is really something we should look up for just because its the same socket doesn't mean you should use it right
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mcrazza
I was under the impression that the 7600-7700X offered roughly equivalent gaming performance to the 5800X3D, but the results speak for itself. Granted the games sampled are not exhaustive and I'm sure there are titles showing the opposite, but clearly the 5700X3D outperforms the 7600X and 7700X. As someone rocking a 5600X6750XT since Feb. 2023 there's no justification to upgrade to AM5 7600-7700X when I could drop in a 5700X3D. That said, it'd be best to wait for Zen 5 and see how much of a perf uplift we'll get at the R5/low-end R7 segment. But for those rocking Zen 2 and earlier CPUs, the 5700X3D is a compelling upgrade.
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I was under the impression that the 7600-7700X offered roughly equivalent gaming performance to the 5800X3D, but the results speak for itself. Granted the games sampled are not exhaustive and I'm sure there are titles showing the opposite, but clearly the 5700X3D outperforms the 7600X and 7700X. As someone rocking a 5600X6750XT since Feb. 2023 there's no justification to upgrade to AM5 7600-7700X when I could drop in a 5700X3D. That said, it'd be best to wait for Zen 5 and see how much of a perf uplift we'll get at the R5/low-end R7 segment. But for those rocking Zen 2 and earlier CPUs, the 5700X3D is a compelling upgrade.
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gosuprime
AMD's GPU line has had some questionable choices/pricing, but man does the AMD CPU division deliver. It isn't just FPS, it's incredible efficiency (which means you don't need a crazy cooler, also). That's the most impressive thing about the 7800x3D: the Intel counterpart might draw 200 watts while gaming, yet the 7800x3D is beating it while drawing...40 watts Still, AM4 has had incredible longevity: it's amazing how it's an 8 year old platform yet a 5700x3D can slot in and beat a 14700K in gaming. AM4 is the 1080TI of boards, seems like.
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AMD's GPU line has had some questionable choices/pricing, but man does the AMD CPU division deliver. It isn't just FPS, it's incredible efficiency (which means you don't need a crazy cooler, also). That's the most impressive thing about the 7800x3D: the Intel counterpart might draw 200 watts while gaming, yet the 7800x3D is beating it while drawing...40 watts Still, AM4 has had incredible longevity: it's amazing how it's an 8 year old platform yet a 5700x3D can slot in and beat a 14700K in gaming. AM4 is the 1080TI of boards, seems like.
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jackcapella2707
They have been talking about getting Marooned on AM4 for 2 years Take it from someone who has every generation all the way back to the DX4 100 MHz AM4 has many years left because AM5 is over priced hot buggy garbage along with intel. Both are running at unstable speeds. AM 4 is a proven platform and it runs everything you need without a hitch. Why do you need 400 and 500 fps when there are no realist monitors in this category YOU JUST DON’T NEED THE NEW ARCHITECTURE. They want you to buy it’s simply a marketing push.
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They have been talking about getting Marooned on AM4 for 2 years Take it from someone who has every generation all the way back to the DX4 100 MHz AM4 has many years left because AM5 is over priced hot buggy garbage along with intel. Both are running at unstable speeds. AM 4 is a proven platform and it runs everything you need without a hitch. Why do you need 400 and 500 fps when there are no realist monitors in this category YOU JUST DON’T NEED THE NEW ARCHITECTURE. They want you to buy it’s simply a marketing push.
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user-lm3fm4cq5i
It's a nice budget option for a high performance AM4 gaming PC. AM4 is legendary.
Even though I am on a well-working 5600x, I could see myself getting one of the 5000 x3D CPUs in the future instead of completely changing the build to AM5 being on a tighter budget.
The performance plus from those chips is still quite the jump and you can continute using your Board and Ram with it. Big benefit.
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It's a nice budget option for a high performance AM4 gaming PC. AM4 is legendary.
Even though I am on a well-working 5600x, I could see myself getting one of the 5000 x3D CPUs in the future instead of completely changing the build to AM5 being on a tighter budget.
The performance plus from those chips is still quite the jump and you can continute using your Board and Ram with it. Big benefit.
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stealthhunter6998
Can someone explain to me if intel or amd have better frametimes Stuttering in games annoys me more than overall performance and I have a 5600X rn.
Stuttering in dead space remake and UE5 games (Ik shader compilation exists) but does any cpu counter stuttering issues or brand Any particular hardware counter stuttering too I have a PCIe gen 4 ssd. Would gen 5 alleviate stutter or just be the same
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Can someone explain to me if intel or amd have better frametimes Stuttering in games annoys me more than overall performance and I have a 5600X rn.
Stuttering in dead space remake and UE5 games (Ik shader compilation exists) but does any cpu counter stuttering issues or brand Any particular hardware counter stuttering too I have a PCIe gen 4 ssd. Would gen 5 alleviate stutter or just be the same
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Steamrick
Just looking at CPU price is kinda pointless. You need to look at total system price, which is easily double the pure CPU price. In that case, the 5800X3D is about 6-10% faster for a 10% system price difference instead of a 20% cpu price difference (based on today's newegg pricing).
In Europe the pricing difference between the two CPUs is much lower, so buying the 5700X3D makes no sense at moment.
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Just looking at CPU price is kinda pointless. You need to look at total system price, which is easily double the pure CPU price. In that case, the 5800X3D is about 6-10% faster for a 10% system price difference instead of a 20% cpu price difference (based on today's newegg pricing).
In Europe the pricing difference between the two CPUs is much lower, so buying the 5700X3D makes no sense at moment.
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JMUDoc
I was going to hold out and wait for one of these, but when I saw that the TDP was going to be the same, I just went for the 5800X3D; if they'd been able to get it to 65 W, I would have gone for this one.
Luckily, the 5800X3D is a ridiculously good under-volter, and there is a lot of headroom with the PPT and currents - honest to god, this thing is like it's from the future, or something.
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I was going to hold out and wait for one of these, but when I saw that the TDP was going to be the same, I just went for the 5800X3D; if they'd been able to get it to 65 W, I would have gone for this one.
Luckily, the 5800X3D is a ridiculously good under-volter, and there is a lot of headroom with the PPT and currents - honest to god, this thing is like it's from the future, or something.
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th3h0tpegla35
Considering this trend, I wouldn't be surprised if AMD released a 4C/8T Ryzen 3 5300X3D for the low-end upgrades from cheap CPUs while still maintaining decent performance. It would be especially useful in parts of the world where high-end or even mid-range components can be a lot more expensive, due to the lower purchasing power.
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Considering this trend, I wouldn't be surprised if AMD released a 4C/8T Ryzen 3 5300X3D for the low-end upgrades from cheap CPUs while still maintaining decent performance. It would be especially useful in parts of the world where high-end or even mid-range components can be a lot more expensive, due to the lower purchasing power.
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Histaogram
I was considering to buy a 5700x at about 200$ but if this is available at 230$ or even maybe 250$. I might just buy the 5700x3d. I have had a 3700x for 3 years now, has given me a good gaming time at 1080p/uptra for 3 years. Gotta love AM4, that I can upgrade the CPU and GPU this year and still drive 1440p for the next 2/3 years.
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I was considering to buy a 5700x at about 200$ but if this is available at 230$ or even maybe 250$. I might just buy the 5700x3d. I have had a 3700x for 3 years now, has given me a good gaming time at 1080p/uptra for 3 years. Gotta love AM4, that I can upgrade the CPU and GPU this year and still drive 1440p for the next 2/3 years.
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dim3nt0
If upgrading going for 5700x3d or 5800x3d to 7600x makes no sense because those or faster or on par. So buying an x3d cpy may well mean skiping am5 platform for many. Unless it proves to be live for as many gens of cpus wich would be great but doubt it will. But still, 5kx3d will be nice cpus years from now.
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If upgrading going for 5700x3d or 5800x3d to 7600x makes no sense because those or faster or on par. So buying an x3d cpy may well mean skiping am5 platform for many. Unless it proves to be live for as many gens of cpus wich would be great but doubt it will. But still, 5kx3d will be nice cpus years from now.
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-INFERNUS-
Now if only Intel would have 5yrs on a socket. (Intel take notes) I rather upgrade a few CPUs on the same socket instead of a whole new build and a lot less hassle and money. One of the reasons I left Intel in 2018 and came back to AMD. I might switch back, as I'm not loyal to any PC brand
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Now if only Intel would have 5yrs on a socket. (Intel take notes) I rather upgrade a few CPUs on the same socket instead of a whole new build and a lot less hassle and money. One of the reasons I left Intel in 2018 and came back to AMD. I might switch back, as I'm not loyal to any PC brand
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ericbauer4559
Been waiting for this review. Looking to upgrade from my 5600x paired with a 3080ti. I think 250 is good enough to justify versus building a whole new system. Of course I wont be back in country for a couple more months so hopefully they'll still be available for purchase by then.
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Been waiting for this review. Looking to upgrade from my 5600x paired with a 3080ti. I think 250 is good enough to justify versus building a whole new system. Of course I wont be back in country for a couple more months so hopefully they'll still be available for purchase by then.
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