Are TODO Applications Hindering Your Productivity? DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Sennin
As pointed out by the user Waffles on the comment section, GTD would be a great thing for you to learn, DT, the book teaches you how to better be productive, hearing all of your complains about productivity apps made clear that the way you address them is just wrong. A lot of people really do feel bad when using the calendar to plan the things they are supposed to be doing because they put stuff on the calendar that doesn't need to be on the calendar. If you HAVE (note that have to is different to want to) to talk to someone and that person is going to travel to a place with no cellphone signal nor wi-fi, then that thing should be on the calendar on that specific date before the travel, when you simply want to do something that could be done at any time, it should not go on the calendar, but on a list, the list would remind you that you could do that, not force you to do, and when you are doing the stuff you want to do and you realize you done something that was on a list, you put the check mark on it and get the sensation of victory.
I believe what you told on this video is the way you (and possibly the people close to you) feel about these tools, but actual scientific study happened and is happening up to this day about the effectiveness of GTD, psychologists are learning about the cognitive dissonance and other stuff that happens on the brain with to do lists.
That comment got too big and I didn't even told all of the good stuff about productivity and its usage with to do apps, if you are willing to learn how to Get Things Done in a more productive manner and without stressing out, when you feel like it, read the book Getting Things Done, by David Allen ;)
I dropped a like even though I disagree completely with what you said because disagreeing with your opinion should not be the cause of a dislike :D
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As pointed out by the user Waffles on the comment section, GTD would be a great thing for you to learn, DT, the book teaches you how to better be productive, hearing all of your complains about productivity apps made clear that the way you address them is just wrong. A lot of people really do feel bad when using the calendar to plan the things they are supposed to be doing because they put stuff on the calendar that doesn't need to be on the calendar. If you HAVE (note that have to is different to want to) to talk to someone and that person is going to travel to a place with no cellphone signal nor wi-fi, then that thing should be on the calendar on that specific date before the travel, when you simply want to do something that could be done at any time, it should not go on the calendar, but on a list, the list would remind you that you could do that, not force you to do, and when you are doing the stuff you want to do and you realize you done something that was on a list, you put the check mark on it and get the sensation of victory.
I believe what you told on this video is the way you (and possibly the people close to you) feel about these tools, but actual scientific study happened and is happening up to this day about the effectiveness of GTD, psychologists are learning about the cognitive dissonance and other stuff that happens on the brain with to do lists.
That comment got too big and I didn't even told all of the good stuff about productivity and its usage with to do apps, if you are willing to learn how to Get Things Done in a more productive manner and without stressing out, when you feel like it, read the book Getting Things Done, by David Allen ;)
I dropped a like even though I disagree completely with what you said because disagreeing with your opinion should not be the cause of a dislike :D
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Kirill
YOU NEED TO MAKE TODO LISTS! One way or another. Whether it's a todo app which works for you or a good oldschool way of grabbing a pen and a notebook.
They way it's done is very personal though, but the main idea is to never forget things that you need or may wanna do.
The worst piece of paper is hundreds times better than the best memory.
I personally an oldschool guy (I've got physical notebooks, sketchbooks, jotter pads, pens and pencils of all possible colours, sizes, and types etc.), but I do use something that is called Due app on my phone. Helpful with things like quickly setting up a reminder to check on the last code build in 15 minutes, take a saucepan off of the stove in 10 mins, cancel a subscription in 2 weeks, check for mail in 1.5 hrs, etc.
Managing all the things is cluttering your brain as soon as you have enough things to care about. Making plans, todos, reminders etc. is vastly helpful to declutter your brain and allow yourself to concentrate on the current task. It doesn't CANCEL your spontaneous desires to make a video, IT HELPS NOT TO FORGET... And NO - you don't have to follow EXACTLY your todo list... Guess what? You can even delete things from it entirely (whispering: make sure nobody watching, because they see you are cheating on your own todo list!).
Pardon me being too sarcastic
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YOU NEED TO MAKE TODO LISTS! One way or another. Whether it's a todo app which works for you or a good oldschool way of grabbing a pen and a notebook.
They way it's done is very personal though, but the main idea is to never forget things that you need or may wanna do.
The worst piece of paper is hundreds times better than the best memory.
I personally an oldschool guy (I've got physical notebooks, sketchbooks, jotter pads, pens and pencils of all possible colours, sizes, and types etc.), but I do use something that is called Due app on my phone. Helpful with things like quickly setting up a reminder to check on the last code build in 15 minutes, take a saucepan off of the stove in 10 mins, cancel a subscription in 2 weeks, check for mail in 1.5 hrs, etc.
Managing all the things is cluttering your brain as soon as you have enough things to care about. Making plans, todos, reminders etc. is vastly helpful to declutter your brain and allow yourself to concentrate on the current task. It doesn't CANCEL your spontaneous desires to make a video, IT HELPS NOT TO FORGET... And NO - you don't have to follow EXACTLY your todo list... Guess what? You can even delete things from it entirely (whispering: make sure nobody watching, because they see you are cheating on your own todo list!).
Pardon me being too sarcastic
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noferblatz
Your analysis is predicated on slavish adherence to and fanatical planning in a todo list. I disagree with most of your analysis. Life consists of action and administration, just like any job. There's the time you spend actually doing the work, and the time you spending documenting things or filling out the paperwork or whatever could be classified as admin. I don't look at todo lists as mandatory task dictats. There are usually future planning. I can offload from memory all the stuff I want to do in the future on a todo list. Then, once a day or once a week I can consult the list and determine what on that list I will do today or this week. I forget things easily, and a todo list helps me remember tasks I plan to do. You may prefer to simply remember everything. I don't. I'd rather write it down and forget it until the next time I look at the list.
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Your analysis is predicated on slavish adherence to and fanatical planning in a todo list. I disagree with most of your analysis. Life consists of action and administration, just like any job. There's the time you spend actually doing the work, and the time you spending documenting things or filling out the paperwork or whatever could be classified as admin. I don't look at todo lists as mandatory task dictats. There are usually future planning. I can offload from memory all the stuff I want to do in the future on a todo list. Then, once a day or once a week I can consult the list and determine what on that list I will do today or this week. I forget things easily, and a todo list helps me remember tasks I plan to do. You may prefer to simply remember everything. I don't. I'd rather write it down and forget it until the next time I look at the list.
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VinayKanthRao
After trying several to-do, productivity software, I realised a simple tool like Microsoft to-do is much better for my lifestyle than all the bells and whistles that come with other big apps. I just needed to list down things and that's it. I think everyone has their own way of being productive. I don't like expensive planners(I tried some), apps etc., I became more productive by using something as simple as a daily planner card. Amazon has a lot of those(for example bliss) with 50 sheets that can be tore-off. But I just created my own according to my requirement(I am a mathematics instructor), and printed them up to use every day. It is far more efficient than any productivity tool.
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After trying several to-do, productivity software, I realised a simple tool like Microsoft to-do is much better for my lifestyle than all the bells and whistles that come with other big apps. I just needed to list down things and that's it. I think everyone has their own way of being productive. I don't like expensive planners(I tried some), apps etc., I became more productive by using something as simple as a daily planner card. Amazon has a lot of those(for example bliss) with 50 sheets that can be tore-off. But I just created my own according to my requirement(I am a mathematics instructor), and printed them up to use every day. It is far more efficient than any productivity tool.
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David
Finally someone else that thinks like I do. I hate todo lists and the like. Note taking apps are so much bloat. I just want to write down notes while I'm reading or thinking about something and I'm not in front of my laptop. Why on earth does Notepad not exist on Android? Why can't someone just make a bloody simple note taking app?
I recently installed Joplin on Android and spent 5min just trying to figure out how to create more than 1 item in a checklist - couldn't figure it out. It shouldn't be that hard. I just want to take notes, not conform to someone else's idea of organization because their way is -better-.
I so very much agree with you DT.
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Finally someone else that thinks like I do. I hate todo lists and the like. Note taking apps are so much bloat. I just want to write down notes while I'm reading or thinking about something and I'm not in front of my laptop. Why on earth does Notepad not exist on Android? Why can't someone just make a bloody simple note taking app?
I recently installed Joplin on Android and spent 5min just trying to figure out how to create more than 1 item in a checklist - couldn't figure it out. It shouldn't be that hard. I just want to take notes, not conform to someone else's idea of organization because their way is -better-.
I so very much agree with you DT.
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Gabifuertes
Calendar blocking and todo lists are different things. A todo list might consist on the assignments I have to do before the semester finishes, or the subjects I have remaining. The main purpose is to not forget stuff and realize when it's too late. They are also useful for grocery shopping. Planning tasks with timetables and deadlines... seems useful for multiple people building a house. As a student I agree scheduling isn't that useful. I'll read that textbook when I feel like it. That's it. No need to complicate my life first thinking when I'm going to do it and then sticking to it even if I don't want to.
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Calendar blocking and todo lists are different things. A todo list might consist on the assignments I have to do before the semester finishes, or the subjects I have remaining. The main purpose is to not forget stuff and realize when it's too late. They are also useful for grocery shopping. Planning tasks with timetables and deadlines... seems useful for multiple people building a house. As a student I agree scheduling isn't that useful. I'll read that textbook when I feel like it. That's it. No need to complicate my life first thinking when I'm going to do it and then sticking to it even if I don't want to.
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Nero
Very biased opinion.
Don't take this to an one side only. If you have a ToDo, I guess it is more to list something that will be done quickly, like a supermarket list or a 2 minute task. Having a calendar or other time management stuff can be helpful, but you need to learn how to plan, otherwise will be against you.
I agree to ditch all the apps and chose one of each kind that you may need, not having a lot of tools and waste time planning on each of them.
Use taskwarrior instead, hardly you will need anything else ;)
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Very biased opinion.
Don't take this to an one side only. If you have a ToDo, I guess it is more to list something that will be done quickly, like a supermarket list or a 2 minute task. Having a calendar or other time management stuff can be helpful, but you need to learn how to plan, otherwise will be against you.
I agree to ditch all the apps and chose one of each kind that you may need, not having a lot of tools and waste time planning on each of them.
Use taskwarrior instead, hardly you will need anything else ;)
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Алексей
I offer to make a list of things you'd like to do like I like to do this and this, maybe in the mood this yet, and when I got bored I just take a look what I like to do and its like OMG y it doesn't come in my head before and then I start doing smth fun for me but actually people would call studying. I can't see the difference between this two things. Anyways sometimes it comes in handy when programming became bored and you're looking for smth to not waste time but it must be really fun to do.
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I offer to make a list of things you'd like to do like I like to do this and this, maybe in the mood this yet, and when I got bored I just take a look what I like to do and its like OMG y it doesn't come in my head before and then I start doing smth fun for me but actually people would call studying. I can't see the difference between this two things. Anyways sometimes it comes in handy when programming became bored and you're looking for smth to not waste time but it must be really fun to do.
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Minhaj
haha. okay.
i list what I need to buy when I go to the market. so that i dont miss something and go to the market twice.
i write it up exactly what and what i need to do and ask the faculty when I go to university tomorrow. otherwise i might ( and i have) miss something and that becomes a huge headache later.
if you dont need them it's great! maybe you dont have use case for it or you are using it wrong.
( i usually take those on my phone)
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haha. okay.
i list what I need to buy when I go to the market. so that i dont miss something and go to the market twice.
i write it up exactly what and what i need to do and ask the faculty when I go to university tomorrow. otherwise i might ( and i have) miss something and that becomes a huge headache later.
if you dont need them it's great! maybe you dont have use case for it or you are using it wrong.
( i usually take those on my phone)
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Audun
You don-t HAVE to schedule tasks, and according to GTD (-getting things done--method) you shouldn-t. But it-s a great tool to find out what-s a project and what is tasks, and prioritize them.
GTD wants you to get EVERYTHING down in a list, but I agree you don-t have to do that. My brain is a mess, so I need a list, but I only use it for work, projects and chores I HAVE to do. The rest is just do when I please.
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You don-t HAVE to schedule tasks, and according to GTD (-getting things done--method) you shouldn-t. But it-s a great tool to find out what-s a project and what is tasks, and prioritize them.
GTD wants you to get EVERYTHING down in a list, but I agree you don-t have to do that. My brain is a mess, so I need a list, but I only use it for work, projects and chores I HAVE to do. The rest is just do when I please.
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