Kitty Is A Fast And Feature Rich Terminal Emulator DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Robin
Kitty's multiplexing is way better than Alacritty+Tmux for couple of reasons:
1) Currently it is not possible to edit a text file in Vim running in a Tmux split in Alacritty without awful mouse flickering if there is a log file printing in another split. This does not happen in Kitty, the mouse does not flicker in another split when something is printing in the other.
2) The native screen multiplexing support is way better idea than Tmux, as Tmux is a 3rd application that runs between host applications and terminals, is known to cause slowness, and not optimized for a particular terminal.
Am not sure why people don't know of Kitty!
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Kitty's multiplexing is way better than Alacritty+Tmux for couple of reasons:
1) Currently it is not possible to edit a text file in Vim running in a Tmux split in Alacritty without awful mouse flickering if there is a log file printing in another split. This does not happen in Kitty, the mouse does not flicker in another split when something is printing in the other.
2) The native screen multiplexing support is way better idea than Tmux, as Tmux is a 3rd application that runs between host applications and terminals, is known to cause slowness, and not optimized for a particular terminal.
Am not sure why people don't know of Kitty!
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TalpaDK
Too bad kitty is so slow, created a 214MB log file by cat'ing the syslog together a bunch of times and as a test timed cat of that file (cached in RAM so nvme IO shouldn't be an issue )
rxvt-unicode: 3.6s
kitty: 13.1s
xfce4-terminal: 15.1s
xterm: 68.7s (yawn!)
stterm: 8.8s
gnome-terminal: 14.0s (Colour me impressed! I believe I switched from gnome terminal to aterm a long time ago as it made svn (yes I said it was a long time ago didn't I?) checkouts a lot faster)
But that text zoom feature does look nice (I3 user so no need for terminal tiles here either)
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Too bad kitty is so slow, created a 214MB log file by cat'ing the syslog together a bunch of times and as a test timed cat of that file (cached in RAM so nvme IO shouldn't be an issue )
rxvt-unicode: 3.6s
kitty: 13.1s
xfce4-terminal: 15.1s
xterm: 68.7s (yawn!)
stterm: 8.8s
gnome-terminal: 14.0s (Colour me impressed! I believe I switched from gnome terminal to aterm a long time ago as it made svn (yes I said it was a long time ago didn't I?) checkouts a lot faster)
But that text zoom feature does look nice (I3 user so no need for terminal tiles here either)
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Bogdan
I was genuinely interested in -gpu- terminal, but here is the BIG PROBLEM no one is taking about.
when you compile something in kitty and you have loads of files/fast cpu the text flies so quickly that you cant even tell the percentage :))))
it also probably has something to do with the fact that rows have animations of some sort but text is really blurry.
in terms of actual performance during the compilation, st was faster by 1% :)))
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I was genuinely interested in -gpu- terminal, but here is the BIG PROBLEM no one is taking about.
when you compile something in kitty and you have loads of files/fast cpu the text flies so quickly that you cant even tell the percentage :))))
it also probably has something to do with the fact that rows have animations of some sort but text is really blurry.
in terms of actual performance during the compilation, st was faster by 1% :)))
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Not
Hey DT! Thanks for the info on Kitty. The Debian repository doesn't have alacritty unless I'm willing to build it, which I recall doing on another computer I use Debian on. But, Kitty is on the Debian repository, at least it is on Neptune OSs repositories--a Buster-based distro--(plus, there is also a AppImage on AppImageHub as well for Kitty), so I was easily able to install it and set it up, and run it. Works great!
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Hey DT! Thanks for the info on Kitty. The Debian repository doesn't have alacritty unless I'm willing to build it, which I recall doing on another computer I use Debian on. But, Kitty is on the Debian repository, at least it is on Neptune OSs repositories--a Buster-based distro--(plus, there is also a AppImage on AppImageHub as well for Kitty), so I was easily able to install it and set it up, and run it. Works great!
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TheSulross
For those not using a tiling window manager (raising hand) this Kitty does indeed look compelling - and I admit I rather like the ability to see images right there in the text terminal. This would be the kind of rendering engine capability that I'd like to see with the Gemini web - text mode sensibilities rendered with ultra high performance but with the ability to render graphics image formats of various kinds
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For those not using a tiling window manager (raising hand) this Kitty does indeed look compelling - and I admit I rather like the ability to see images right there in the text terminal. This would be the kind of rendering engine capability that I'd like to see with the Gemini web - text mode sensibilities rendered with ultra high performance but with the ability to render graphics image formats of various kinds
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Mr
Can we please stop with desktop environment lacking the tiling features of tiling WM? Any decent DE has tiling... and the rest. Tiling is not something that only tiling WMs can do. Maybe it was the case 10 years ago, but hell, even Windows has had tiling keyboard shortcuts for years and years now.
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Can we please stop with desktop environment lacking the tiling features of tiling WM? Any decent DE has tiling... and the rest. Tiling is not something that only tiling WMs can do. Maybe it was the case 10 years ago, but hell, even Windows has had tiling keyboard shortcuts for years and years now.
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Veysel
-Calls other distros as bloat
-has vim, nano and emacs installed
-also kitty and alacritty is installed
-also has bunch of other multiple stuff installed for the same purpose
-still calls other distros as bloat
-a typical arch user
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-Calls other distros as bloat
-has vim, nano and emacs installed
-also kitty and alacritty is installed
-also has bunch of other multiple stuff installed for the same purpose
-still calls other distros as bloat
-a typical arch user
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Kien
I don-t know why in the world do we need So many terminal emulators? It-s so confusing to find the right one for oneself. I need a terminal supports true color but still hang on default Apple terminal because i don-t know which one to replace it.
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I don-t know why in the world do we need So many terminal emulators? It-s so confusing to find the right one for oneself. I need a terminal supports true color but still hang on default Apple terminal because i don-t know which one to replace it.
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Mark
Testing with 'tree': The first time you ran it in alacritty, your system cached some of the inode info. Kitty might be faster, but I suspect the caching interfered with the test by making the second run quicker regardless of the terminal used.
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Testing with 'tree': The first time you ran it in alacritty, your system cached some of the inode info. Kitty might be faster, but I suspect the caching interfered with the test by making the second run quicker regardless of the terminal used.
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Mykola
Hm, I've made this test several times (-time tree /home-, not -/- cause I also have a HDD mounted, so it would be slow) and Kitty got 2-2.3s, and my usual terminal - Konsole - 1.5-2s. So is Konsole faster after all?
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Hm, I've made this test several times (-time tree /home-, not -/- cause I also have a HDD mounted, so it would be slow) and Kitty got 2-2.3s, and my usual terminal - Konsole - 1.5-2s. So is Konsole faster after all?
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