An Installation And First Look Of Fedora 35 DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Silviu
What I like most in fedora (aside from the fresh but not breaking updates) is the dnf package manager. The history feature allows you to easily rollback to a previous set of packages (instead of undoing several install commands), more practical than restoring backups - I don't feel like having leftover packages. Once in a while you'll deal with selinux (exposing files via sharing or web and so on) but it's usually straightforward to work things out.
Gnome works very well by means of heavy keyboard usage (especially after adding some of your key bindings) and is easy to navigate with one hand (say, you're on the phone). I've been mostly using the gnome spin for years - it's just enough without being too little.
I feel the KDE spin is a very functional alternative for people who don't like gnome's approach on things.
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What I like most in fedora (aside from the fresh but not breaking updates) is the dnf package manager. The history feature allows you to easily rollback to a previous set of packages (instead of undoing several install commands), more practical than restoring backups - I don't feel like having leftover packages. Once in a while you'll deal with selinux (exposing files via sharing or web and so on) but it's usually straightforward to work things out.
Gnome works very well by means of heavy keyboard usage (especially after adding some of your key bindings) and is easy to navigate with one hand (say, you're on the phone). I've been mostly using the gnome spin for years - it's just enough without being too little.
I feel the KDE spin is a very functional alternative for people who don't like gnome's approach on things.
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itech
7:15 Seems a bit funny to say, but you have a very -Windows-like- UX preference it seems like.
it's better workflow, I find. Desktop use has trended towards search for finding applications for a while now, and you can just start typing in the workspace overview the same as you would in any application menu. There's nothing to understand about it except that it's a different paradigm, and even if it takes getting used to, at least personally once I'd spent a few months using it, I found that I actually preferred it. Showing the workspace first shows you your -favourite- applications in the dash, and provides an immediate overview of your workspace, which is much more convenient for general use. Besides, double-tapping super opens the applications menu anyway, and it isn't much more effort.
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7:15 Seems a bit funny to say, but you have a very -Windows-like- UX preference it seems like.
it's better workflow, I find. Desktop use has trended towards search for finding applications for a while now, and you can just start typing in the workspace overview the same as you would in any application menu. There's nothing to understand about it except that it's a different paradigm, and even if it takes getting used to, at least personally once I'd spent a few months using it, I found that I actually preferred it. Showing the workspace first shows you your -favourite- applications in the dash, and provides an immediate overview of your workspace, which is much more convenient for general use. Besides, double-tapping super opens the applications menu anyway, and it isn't much more effort.
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HickoryDickory86
18:35-18:40 = I always have issues with Gnome Software hanging on downloads and/or installs. Considering it's also very laggy and slow, even with good hardware and internet connection, it's clear to me that Gnome Software is just a very busted piece of crap that's best avoided if it can be. It's yet another reason why I prefer Flatpaks and to go and get them myself. If I dare to use Software, it's just for research, to discover different FOSS programs that I might want to try out. But even that can be a chore because of the aforementioned lagginess, and also because of the poor organization of things.
Gnome Software just needs a complete and total rewrite. If System 76 makes their own, rewritten in Rust to go alongside their new DE, that one might be worth a try.
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18:35-18:40 = I always have issues with Gnome Software hanging on downloads and/or installs. Considering it's also very laggy and slow, even with good hardware and internet connection, it's clear to me that Gnome Software is just a very busted piece of crap that's best avoided if it can be. It's yet another reason why I prefer Flatpaks and to go and get them myself. If I dare to use Software, it's just for research, to discover different FOSS programs that I might want to try out. But even that can be a chore because of the aforementioned lagginess, and also because of the poor organization of things.
Gnome Software just needs a complete and total rewrite. If System 76 makes their own, rewritten in Rust to go alongside their new DE, that one might be worth a try.
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C.
I don't get it really: Why is using 900 Megs of RAM after boot unacceptable? Fedora 35 isn't designed for low spec / old hardware. There are plenty of alternatives for those kind of scenarios.
The vast majority of machines out there have at least 8 Gigs of RAM or even more.
So at GNOME's perspective it's a much better approach to allocate more RAM initially because allocating RAM is more costly than deallocating.
I like Fedora for a few reasons:
-) stability (!)
-) pure GNOME Experience
-) up to date
-) performance
-) very easy to use
-) can be customized to look exactly the way you want it
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I don't get it really: Why is using 900 Megs of RAM after boot unacceptable? Fedora 35 isn't designed for low spec / old hardware. There are plenty of alternatives for those kind of scenarios.
The vast majority of machines out there have at least 8 Gigs of RAM or even more.
So at GNOME's perspective it's a much better approach to allocate more RAM initially because allocating RAM is more costly than deallocating.
I like Fedora for a few reasons:
-) stability (!)
-) pure GNOME Experience
-) up to date
-) performance
-) very easy to use
-) can be customized to look exactly the way you want it
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Armynyus
Fedora is not about the Desktop Environment.
I don't care too much about the presence of gnome foo on my laptop (with a dwm install a few minutes away) - but I do care about a well (security)maintained, up2date, yet stable&reliable packages environment, incl. industry leading containerization tech. It's comparably easy to provide packages as they arrive upstream - but it's hard to keep them secure and playing well with each other.
I'd say fedora is -the- distro for pros - also since the software we create is by default running on RedHat, for the service contracts customers have.
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Fedora is not about the Desktop Environment.
I don't care too much about the presence of gnome foo on my laptop (with a dwm install a few minutes away) - but I do care about a well (security)maintained, up2date, yet stable&reliable packages environment, incl. industry leading containerization tech. It's comparably easy to provide packages as they arrive upstream - but it's hard to keep them secure and playing well with each other.
I'd say fedora is -the- distro for pros - also since the software we create is by default running on RedHat, for the service contracts customers have.
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Eugene
The magic word is Gnome 35 raw. I have been using it for the first time now almost one month. Never had a problem installing it and straight out of the box it is very stable. However, setting it up with apps, themes and icons is no picnic. Not for those just starting out with Linux that is for sure. Now set up with my fav themes and icons etc. it is now easy to use and again very solid and stable. I do not think Fedora is for any Linux beginner this would without question turn them off from using Linux forever.
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The magic word is Gnome 35 raw. I have been using it for the first time now almost one month. Never had a problem installing it and straight out of the box it is very stable. However, setting it up with apps, themes and icons is no picnic. Not for those just starting out with Linux that is for sure. Now set up with my fav themes and icons etc. it is now easy to use and again very solid and stable. I do not think Fedora is for any Linux beginner this would without question turn them off from using Linux forever.
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Just
9:07
Why are Linux users so obsessed with the update system in Windows?-- Why do you care? Isnt it Linux that literaly asks you on a frsh install for an update? how does that even make sense haha. stay mad boomer, no one cares if you are mad xD Windows doesnt fOrCE you to update your system, or did anyone ever held a gun to my head to update my system?
I really wonder sometimes if all these mad Linux -Users- realise, why they have such an bad reputation
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9:07
Why are Linux users so obsessed with the update system in Windows?-- Why do you care? Isnt it Linux that literaly asks you on a frsh install for an update? how does that even make sense haha. stay mad boomer, no one cares if you are mad xD Windows doesnt fOrCE you to update your system, or did anyone ever held a gun to my head to update my system?
I really wonder sometimes if all these mad Linux -Users- realise, why they have such an bad reputation
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Tiomkin
All these distros fail. You try to test it by running the iso but nobody tells you sudo password so you HAVE to install it to test it out. So it is a pass from me. In all the years linux has existed everything is made for expert users, the beginner is left out. Lots of flashy animations and colours but no easy way to make it see a network device without editing a file, that is locked and you don't have the key. I'll stick with mint.
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All these distros fail. You try to test it by running the iso but nobody tells you sudo password so you HAVE to install it to test it out. So it is a pass from me. In all the years linux has existed everything is made for expert users, the beginner is left out. Lots of flashy animations and colours but no easy way to make it see a network device without editing a file, that is locked and you don't have the key. I'll stick with mint.
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David
I was thinking of going back to MINT with 20.3 in new release....because I know it to be STABLE-- and I need that... I'm kinda over the -fancy- stuff like blur/translucency, etc. that looks neat for a while- then gets in the way after a bit.. LOVE POP OS-- but it's still FREEZING even after a very careful fresh install and monitoring.. then someone mentioned FEDORA is STABLE-- which is its top point.. I LIKE THAT.. it WORKS..
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I was thinking of going back to MINT with 20.3 in new release....because I know it to be STABLE-- and I need that... I'm kinda over the -fancy- stuff like blur/translucency, etc. that looks neat for a while- then gets in the way after a bit.. LOVE POP OS-- but it's still FREEZING even after a very careful fresh install and monitoring.. then someone mentioned FEDORA is STABLE-- which is its top point.. I LIKE THAT.. it WORKS..
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Pope
Great vid, a thiong on passwords: pass phrases are the way.
Complexity is a ruse these days, it's length that matters now and anything under 16 characters can be cracked in 3 hours or less.
That said if you are a slow typer that makes typos that can be difficult.
But the upside is they are easy to remember so you won't be putting postits under your keyboard (soooooo many of those in every office I have worked at).
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Great vid, a thiong on passwords: pass phrases are the way.
Complexity is a ruse these days, it's length that matters now and anything under 16 characters can be cracked in 3 hours or less.
That said if you are a slow typer that makes typos that can be difficult.
But the upside is they are easy to remember so you won't be putting postits under your keyboard (soooooo many of those in every office I have worked at).
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