RX 9070 GRE Tested VS RTX 5070, RX 7900 GRE & More
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Date: 2025-07-20
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carlosrevolledo291
Is that 7800 XT performance because that 9070 GRE feels like the 7700 XT of RDN4, even down to the 12gb of vram. The situation seems to be very similar to the 7600 XT vs 7700 XT, where the weaker one had 4 gb more of vram but was 30-40% weaker. And remember the 9060 XT essentially matched the 7700xt in performance so it would make sense that the 7700 xt of rdn4 would go one tier above to do the same with 7800 xt performance. Finally, If we pay attention to what the war between amd and nvidia has been all about this gen, if AMD would be to keep doing what they've been doing so far, I'd say they'll want to keep this card as cheap as possible to beat the 5060ti 16gb, especially considering the 4gb vram difference. I'd say AMD might be forced to price it cheaper than that card, at least simbolically, perhaps $410 or $420 or otherwise it might be doa.
Btw, in another comment you guys say that you compared it to the 7900 GRE because price wise it was the closest to the 9070 GRE, but remember that up until the moment the 9060 XT was released (I don't know now) the 7600 XT was also the closest in price (335 iirc vs 350 of the 9060 xt 16gb), and that card is like 40% weaker so...again, it will depend on whether AMD wants to keep this aggressive pricing or not.
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Is that 7800 XT performance because that 9070 GRE feels like the 7700 XT of RDN4, even down to the 12gb of vram. The situation seems to be very similar to the 7600 XT vs 7700 XT, where the weaker one had 4 gb more of vram but was 30-40% weaker. And remember the 9060 XT essentially matched the 7700xt in performance so it would make sense that the 7700 xt of rdn4 would go one tier above to do the same with 7800 xt performance. Finally, If we pay attention to what the war between amd and nvidia has been all about this gen, if AMD would be to keep doing what they've been doing so far, I'd say they'll want to keep this card as cheap as possible to beat the 5060ti 16gb, especially considering the 4gb vram difference. I'd say AMD might be forced to price it cheaper than that card, at least simbolically, perhaps $410 or $420 or otherwise it might be doa.
Btw, in another comment you guys say that you compared it to the 7900 GRE because price wise it was the closest to the 9070 GRE, but remember that up until the moment the 9060 XT was released (I don't know now) the 7600 XT was also the closest in price (335 iirc vs 350 of the 9060 xt 16gb), and that card is like 40% weaker so...again, it will depend on whether AMD wants to keep this aggressive pricing or not.
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RurouTube
This video make the wrong assumption of 9070 GRE is the replacement for 7900 GRE. 9070 GRE is not a direct replacement for 7900 GRE. In terms of positioning, it is basically in a tier under 7800XT, probably more of 7700XT replacement. Pricing wise, in China during launch:
9070 XT -> 4999 RMB
9070 -> 4499 RMB
9070 GRE -> 4199 RMB
7900 XT -> 7399 RMB (later revised to 5299)
7900 GRE -> 5299 RMB (later revised to 5099)
7800 XT -> 4499 RMB
7700 XT -> 3999 RMB
Yes, right now you might pay more for 9070 GRE, but that is probably because it is using Taiwan pricing, thus you make the fatal flaw of comparing 9070 GRE Taiwan price vs 7900 GRE US price. I use China pricing because that is the number that I can find online for all the GPUs mentioned in my post. Having said that, with how the current GPU pricing for 9070 series. I doubt you can easily buy those at MSRP, but the point still stands. 9070 GRE is not positioned as 7900 GRE but like you've said, it sits between 9060 XT and 9070. The fact that you realize that but still compare it to 7900 GRE is honestly a big oversight. Yes, I know there is a price angle, but again, you ended up trying to match Taiwan vs US price.
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This video make the wrong assumption of 9070 GRE is the replacement for 7900 GRE. 9070 GRE is not a direct replacement for 7900 GRE. In terms of positioning, it is basically in a tier under 7800XT, probably more of 7700XT replacement. Pricing wise, in China during launch:
9070 XT -> 4999 RMB
9070 -> 4499 RMB
9070 GRE -> 4199 RMB
7900 XT -> 7399 RMB (later revised to 5299)
7900 GRE -> 5299 RMB (later revised to 5099)
7800 XT -> 4499 RMB
7700 XT -> 3999 RMB
Yes, right now you might pay more for 9070 GRE, but that is probably because it is using Taiwan pricing, thus you make the fatal flaw of comparing 9070 GRE Taiwan price vs 7900 GRE US price. I use China pricing because that is the number that I can find online for all the GPUs mentioned in my post. Having said that, with how the current GPU pricing for 9070 series. I doubt you can easily buy those at MSRP, but the point still stands. 9070 GRE is not positioned as 7900 GRE but like you've said, it sits between 9060 XT and 9070. The fact that you realize that but still compare it to 7900 GRE is honestly a big oversight. Yes, I know there is a price angle, but again, you ended up trying to match Taiwan vs US price.
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TheDoomerBlox
3:30 - no, the performance non-difference doesn't tell anything about the cards
what it does tell, is the fact that AMD's AI software is hopelessly behind the curve, and that if you're lucky, you might see the cards actually run AI workloads properly.. uhh... sometime 2026
If you want to run such things, get a used RTX 3060. If you want a minor headache - get an arc b580. If you want to install gentoo to use basic things that have been around for several years now (e.g. ComfyUI), get an RX 9000 series card.
Or wait for a 5070 Super 18GB, I guess. That's also an option.
Currently I'm enjoying this 9060 XT 16GB running ComfyUI at 1/5th the speed of the RTX 3060 it replaced, and running out of VRAM when decoding SDXL pictures above 1 megapixel :- ))
(may I remind you that SDXL is 2 years old)
runs videogames good though
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3:30 - no, the performance non-difference doesn't tell anything about the cards
what it does tell, is the fact that AMD's AI software is hopelessly behind the curve, and that if you're lucky, you might see the cards actually run AI workloads properly.. uhh... sometime 2026
If you want to run such things, get a used RTX 3060. If you want a minor headache - get an arc b580. If you want to install gentoo to use basic things that have been around for several years now (e.g. ComfyUI), get an RX 9000 series card.
Or wait for a 5070 Super 18GB, I guess. That's also an option.
Currently I'm enjoying this 9060 XT 16GB running ComfyUI at 1/5th the speed of the RTX 3060 it replaced, and running out of VRAM when decoding SDXL pictures above 1 megapixel :- ))
(may I remind you that SDXL is 2 years old)
runs videogames good though
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peterjansen4826
A 14-15% cut for the GPU and 25% cut for the memory and GDDR6 compared to the 9070. No thanks AMD. This card sucks! The 9070 and 9070XT already were sufficiently lackluster thanks to only using GDDR6 instead of GDDR7 like Nvidia. If AMD would have released the card when planned, late in 2024 then it would have sucked less but AMD waited because Nvidia waited and Nvidia dictated the game: they now have the better memory because they eyeballed releasing the card a few months later. Poorly played by AMD. Good architecture-improvement, slow memory holding it back, not profiting from a few months without competition because Nvidia had to wait due to using GDDR7, instead AMD now looks worse because of GDDR6.
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A 14-15% cut for the GPU and 25% cut for the memory and GDDR6 compared to the 9070. No thanks AMD. This card sucks! The 9070 and 9070XT already were sufficiently lackluster thanks to only using GDDR6 instead of GDDR7 like Nvidia. If AMD would have released the card when planned, late in 2024 then it would have sucked less but AMD waited because Nvidia waited and Nvidia dictated the game: they now have the better memory because they eyeballed releasing the card a few months later. Poorly played by AMD. Good architecture-improvement, slow memory holding it back, not profiting from a few months without competition because Nvidia had to wait due to using GDDR7, instead AMD now looks worse because of GDDR6.
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purgedome2386
Only 12 GB.. I guess the good thing it wasn't a 8GB.. or 10 lol
If it was 16 GB which I think should have been.. I would have been interested.. and it would come down to price..
The 7800 was 16 GB the last GRE(7900) was 16.. the higher 9060XT has a 16GB and the 9070 non XT has 16..
Why a 12GB.. so it seems like the FSR4 the main plus for buying this card.. probably gonna undercut their 7900 GRE MSRP.. and spin doctor it..
Think 9060XT 16 GB or the 9070 Non would be better choices even at the midway $ point between both cards.
Guess I'm more into longevity then MAX FPS
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Only 12 GB.. I guess the good thing it wasn't a 8GB.. or 10 lol
If it was 16 GB which I think should have been.. I would have been interested.. and it would come down to price..
The 7800 was 16 GB the last GRE(7900) was 16.. the higher 9060XT has a 16GB and the 9070 non XT has 16..
Why a 12GB.. so it seems like the FSR4 the main plus for buying this card.. probably gonna undercut their 7900 GRE MSRP.. and spin doctor it..
Think 9060XT 16 GB or the 9070 Non would be better choices even at the midway $ point between both cards.
Guess I'm more into longevity then MAX FPS
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JohnDoe-ip3oq
AMD DOESN'T HAVE TENSOR CORES, FAKE NEWS. It's not using Nvidia architecture. The 7900 does have AI cores, they're just not full spec, AND it does run FSR4 on Linux. The raytracing support is also the SAME, just the 9070 doubles the efficiency/IPC. AMD uses a different approach than Nvidia, the AI is built into the shader, NOT a separate core. The FSR4 support is a HUGE CONTROVERSY, because AMD SOLD the 7900 as supporting AI, the BOX even says it, then they DIDN'T provide driver features like FSR4, which was proven they lied about compatibility by Linux supporting FSR4.
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AMD DOESN'T HAVE TENSOR CORES, FAKE NEWS. It's not using Nvidia architecture. The 7900 does have AI cores, they're just not full spec, AND it does run FSR4 on Linux. The raytracing support is also the SAME, just the 9070 doubles the efficiency/IPC. AMD uses a different approach than Nvidia, the AI is built into the shader, NOT a separate core. The FSR4 support is a HUGE CONTROVERSY, because AMD SOLD the 7900 as supporting AI, the BOX even says it, then they DIDN'T provide driver features like FSR4, which was proven they lied about compatibility by Linux supporting FSR4.
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fakeframeshater
tensor cores on nvidia and the new accelerators on amd are not used for raytracing rendering for the most part since all the rt work is done on the rt cores on nvidia and the rt units of rdna 4 and rdna 3. the tensor cores of nvidia and now amd's xmx cores are used for the machine learning upscaling portion of dlss and fsr and they can also be used for ray reconstruction and NRC but the rt rendering work is still all done on the rt cores and shading units and uses tensor cores for the denosier algorithm of dlss
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tensor cores on nvidia and the new accelerators on amd are not used for raytracing rendering for the most part since all the rt work is done on the rt cores on nvidia and the rt units of rdna 4 and rdna 3. the tensor cores of nvidia and now amd's xmx cores are used for the machine learning upscaling portion of dlss and fsr and they can also be used for ray reconstruction and NRC but the rt rendering work is still all done on the rt cores and shading units and uses tensor cores for the denosier algorithm of dlss
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SIW808
The testing methodology is kind of off, considering that AMD shifted their lineup with RDNA 4.
The 9070XT replaced the 7900GRE, the 9070 replaced the 7800XT, the 9070 GRE replaced the 7700XT, and the 9060XT replaced the 7600XT.
The 9070 GRE will definitely launch in the US because the gap between the vanilla 9070 and 9060XT 16GB is too massive.
9070 GRE will probably cost anywhere between $439 & $449 when it launches in the US.
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The testing methodology is kind of off, considering that AMD shifted their lineup with RDNA 4.
The 9070XT replaced the 7900GRE, the 9070 replaced the 7800XT, the 9070 GRE replaced the 7700XT, and the 9060XT replaced the 7600XT.
The 9070 GRE will definitely launch in the US because the gap between the vanilla 9070 and 9060XT 16GB is too massive.
9070 GRE will probably cost anywhere between $439 & $449 when it launches in the US.
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deyeatdapoopoo7582
If they release this card in other markets $450 would be a solid price for it, offering a decent discount given the cuts to the core, memory bandwidth and capacity. It being 12GB makes sense with the bus width being cut down from 256-bit to 192-bit, but is also why it should be discounted to $450 considering both the 9070 and 9060 XT have 16GB.
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If they release this card in other markets $450 would be a solid price for it, offering a decent discount given the cuts to the core, memory bandwidth and capacity. It being 12GB makes sense with the bus width being cut down from 256-bit to 192-bit, but is also why it should be discounted to $450 considering both the 9070 and 9060 XT have 16GB.
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danielm81
You are comparing current gen 70 class card with previous gen 90 class card. The GRE designation on both cards doesn't mean they're the same class. It's the same for XT, Ti or Super.
There also was another GRE previous gen card: RX 7650 GRE. But the closest thing in core specs, memory capacity, class and with GRE designation would be 6750 GRE.
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You are comparing current gen 70 class card with previous gen 90 class card. The GRE designation on both cards doesn't mean they're the same class. It's the same for XT, Ti or Super.
There also was another GRE previous gen card: RX 7650 GRE. But the closest thing in core specs, memory capacity, class and with GRE designation would be 6750 GRE.
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Stars-Mine
I feel like alot of the commentary on the cards conflates what the 9070 is to AMD's line up. There was no big flagship RDNA 4 card, the 7900 xtx/7900xt/7900gre were not replaced, if they were it would be by a hypothetical 9080xt/9080/9080gre built off a nonexistent big chip.
9070 replaced the 7800 in the the stack.
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I feel like alot of the commentary on the cards conflates what the 9070 is to AMD's line up. There was no big flagship RDNA 4 card, the 7900 xtx/7900xt/7900gre were not replaced, if they were it would be by a hypothetical 9080xt/9080/9080gre built off a nonexistent big chip.
9070 replaced the 7800 in the the stack.
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syncmonism
There's a mistake in the video. At one point one of them mistakenly refers to the RX 9000 series as RDNA5, and to the previous generation as RDNA4.
The previous generation is RDNA3, and the current generation is RDNA4. If there is an RDNA5, it is still in development and hasn't been released yet.
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There's a mistake in the video. At one point one of them mistakenly refers to the RX 9000 series as RDNA5, and to the previous generation as RDNA4.
The previous generation is RDNA3, and the current generation is RDNA4. If there is an RDNA5, it is still in development and hasn't been released yet.
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radicalbyte
I paid $450 for my 7900 GRE not long after release, you had to move to $800 to beat it. It's the only card which didn't feel like a complete rip-off. The 9700 XT's RRP is only slightly higher but I've yet to see a card come anywhere close $450. Which is a shame as it would be a decent upgrade.
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I paid $450 for my 7900 GRE not long after release, you had to move to $800 to beat it. It's the only card which didn't feel like a complete rip-off. The 9700 XT's RRP is only slightly higher but I've yet to see a card come anywhere close $450. Which is a shame as it would be a decent upgrade.
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evilvash0
man just ready for RDNA5 already with hopefully reasonable pricing for mid tier if not will settle with a clearly cheaper 9070 XT when its nolonger over priced by $100
edit: also not sure why they said between RDNA5 and RDNA4 when the current 9000 series is RDNA4 a refresh of RDNA3
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man just ready for RDNA5 already with hopefully reasonable pricing for mid tier if not will settle with a clearly cheaper 9070 XT when its nolonger over priced by $100
edit: also not sure why they said between RDNA5 and RDNA4 when the current 9000 series is RDNA4 a refresh of RDNA3
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MarbsMusic
I've got an MSI 6950 XT and in pure raster my only meaningful update would be like a 5080... just not going to spend that much. Yea the 5070 TI and 9070 XT are a little faster but no enough to justify the cost IMHO. For the price last year the 7900 GRE looks like it was a great deal!
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I've got an MSI 6950 XT and in pure raster my only meaningful update would be like a 5080... just not going to spend that much. Yea the 5070 TI and 9070 XT are a little faster but no enough to justify the cost IMHO. For the price last year the 7900 GRE looks like it was a great deal!
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fredsorre6605
The only way this goes to a global release is if it doesn't sell well in China the RX 7900GRE was barely selling there thus they had plenty of overstock that they were able to bring everywhere else along with a price drop since it released with a higher price in China.
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The only way this goes to a global release is if it doesn't sell well in China the RX 7900GRE was barely selling there thus they had plenty of overstock that they were able to bring everywhere else along with a price drop since it released with a higher price in China.
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leonardo.muricy
I don't think this is supposed to be a successor to 7900gre, just as the 9070xt is not a successor to the 7900xtx. It is a very cut down mid chip, while the 7900gre was a cut down high end chip. This would be something like the 7700xt successor, I think.
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I don't think this is supposed to be a successor to 7900gre, just as the 9070xt is not a successor to the 7900xtx. It is a very cut down mid chip, while the 7900gre was a cut down high end chip. This would be something like the 7700xt successor, I think.
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pcworld
TLDR: Get the 9070 XT if you have unhinged levels of obsession for ray tracing and upscaling. Get the 7900 XTX for raw GPU computing power and if you need more than 16 GB of VRAM for things like Blender or LLMs and don't care about ray tracing or upscaling
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TLDR: Get the 9070 XT if you have unhinged levels of obsession for ray tracing and upscaling. Get the 7900 XTX for raw GPU computing power and if you need more than 16 GB of VRAM for things like Blender or LLMs and don't care about ray tracing or upscaling
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baronvonslambert
I think you might have gotten caught up by the GRE name. Comparing a 90/900 class card against a 70/700 card with only one generation to seperate them is just unfair. Might as well compare the 6700 GRE to the 7900 GRE while you're at it.
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I think you might have gotten caught up by the GRE name. Comparing a 90/900 class card against a 70/700 card with only one generation to seperate them is just unfair. Might as well compare the 6700 GRE to the 7900 GRE while you're at it.
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benjaminxiong553
I got my 7900 GRE for 500$ USD last year. Ironically it is that exact same hellhound card. Also just a thought, does the tensor cores on the 9070 GRE make it better for the RT However, I am happy with the better raster on the 7900 GRE.
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I got my 7900 GRE for 500$ USD last year. Ironically it is that exact same hellhound card. Also just a thought, does the tensor cores on the 9070 GRE make it better for the RT However, I am happy with the better raster on the 7900 GRE.
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