Fat Burner Supplement Scandal (ACTUAL STORE FOOTAGE)
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Date: 2022-04-22
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Eddie
I think one of the things you are missing here is education. These people in most supplement stores gnc and the like are taught a few words to use and they sound like experts. frankly the only reason I go to gnc is because they have a cute girl in there. She doesn't know squat. I know what I want when I walk in there and I let her tell me what she knows. The other part is that these places are in business to make money. Do they care? No. They are about making money. It really is up to the individual to do the research to understand what they want and need. If a guy walks into a store and asks for something most of these people assume that they know what they need. I am fortunate in that I do the research on everything that I do for supplementation for what I want to accomplish. I am also fortunate that where I buy is run by body builders. I typically buy my thermogenics from them and my other supplements from somewhere else less expensively, ie protein powder and vitamins. I take what they give me as info and I research it before I buy it. This is what everyone should do for their specific goals. It really is up to the person buying the stuff to know what they need. If they don't do their homework up front then shame on them. You can't blame the store for selling something that's their business. Their responsibility ends at providing information into the ingredients and what they do.
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I think one of the things you are missing here is education. These people in most supplement stores gnc and the like are taught a few words to use and they sound like experts. frankly the only reason I go to gnc is because they have a cute girl in there. She doesn't know squat. I know what I want when I walk in there and I let her tell me what she knows. The other part is that these places are in business to make money. Do they care? No. They are about making money. It really is up to the individual to do the research to understand what they want and need. If a guy walks into a store and asks for something most of these people assume that they know what they need. I am fortunate in that I do the research on everything that I do for supplementation for what I want to accomplish. I am also fortunate that where I buy is run by body builders. I typically buy my thermogenics from them and my other supplements from somewhere else less expensively, ie protein powder and vitamins. I take what they give me as info and I research it before I buy it. This is what everyone should do for their specific goals. It really is up to the person buying the stuff to know what they need. If they don't do their homework up front then shame on them. You can't blame the store for selling something that's their business. Their responsibility ends at providing information into the ingredients and what they do.
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mexicanoaao
see as a salesman myself i see both sides of the coin here, personally i dont believe in fat burners to the extent that they are portrayed as some of the better ones can only help remove maybe 100-150 calories (caffeine and synepherine for instance) and suppress appetite, however i wouldve asked some questions. Beyond that, it is a business, gnc pays a minimum wage and companies can offer OPTIONAL pm (promotional money) for products sold. They give a base knowledge of flag ship products and ingredients and thats it. We are not trained to offer health advice or make decisions for people, we are trained to give recommendations on the best products that we deem fit and if a customer is already set on a product, we are not supposed to undercut sales. Now a few good salesmen will do so and some may even have the knowledge to educate people and help make a better decision. Beyond that, all this kid was doing, was his job and when you have bosses breathing down your neck for sales in an industry where very few people are actually able to survive as honest salesmen, you can't blame them for giving a customer for what they ask for
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see as a salesman myself i see both sides of the coin here, personally i dont believe in fat burners to the extent that they are portrayed as some of the better ones can only help remove maybe 100-150 calories (caffeine and synepherine for instance) and suppress appetite, however i wouldve asked some questions. Beyond that, it is a business, gnc pays a minimum wage and companies can offer OPTIONAL pm (promotional money) for products sold. They give a base knowledge of flag ship products and ingredients and thats it. We are not trained to offer health advice or make decisions for people, we are trained to give recommendations on the best products that we deem fit and if a customer is already set on a product, we are not supposed to undercut sales. Now a few good salesmen will do so and some may even have the knowledge to educate people and help make a better decision. Beyond that, all this kid was doing, was his job and when you have bosses breathing down your neck for sales in an industry where very few people are actually able to survive as honest salesmen, you can't blame them for giving a customer for what they ask for
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Bryan
I know this video is older and that my opinion doesn't matter, but I'm going to go for it anyway. I'm on both sides. The store employee should have a working knowledge of the product and should've warned Jesse about negative effects of taking fat burners at his weight. At the same time, it is merely a retail store front and they have to sell product due to thin margins. They honestly can't afford to turn people away. However, if the employee was any good at his job he would've pushed a different product that would've actually benefited Jesse, even if it was something as simple as a multivitamin. But ultimately the responsibility lies on the person taking the supplement. It is our own job to research what we intend to put in our bodies before we do it. You don't blame the liqour store clerk for selling you 2 gallons of rum, you blame the guy who thought it would be a good idea to drink it and go for a joyride
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I know this video is older and that my opinion doesn't matter, but I'm going to go for it anyway. I'm on both sides. The store employee should have a working knowledge of the product and should've warned Jesse about negative effects of taking fat burners at his weight. At the same time, it is merely a retail store front and they have to sell product due to thin margins. They honestly can't afford to turn people away. However, if the employee was any good at his job he would've pushed a different product that would've actually benefited Jesse, even if it was something as simple as a multivitamin. But ultimately the responsibility lies on the person taking the supplement. It is our own job to research what we intend to put in our bodies before we do it. You don't blame the liqour store clerk for selling you 2 gallons of rum, you blame the guy who thought it would be a good idea to drink it and go for a joyride
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Davegotgame
i see both points. everyone saying its the kids job to sell stuff and there right he didnt push it on him to buy it. thats his job. and i see jeffs point. hes saying thst yes its his job but his job shoukd also be helo people he could have told they guy i dont think u need it but if u want something take this. i been to a gnc one time while i was on roids and definitely looked good and guy told me if i look like i do now that theres nothing in that store going to helo me get bigger then i was. i told him when i went in i never used anything at all. protein pre-workout nothing and he told me if u was able to ger that size without anything u dont need it now. i just wanted to see what they would try sell me. bc 98% of it is bs. theres only a few things tbat help u if u have money for it but if not u dont need it. real food good food rest and working out hard and not missing workouts. thats key
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i see both points. everyone saying its the kids job to sell stuff and there right he didnt push it on him to buy it. thats his job. and i see jeffs point. hes saying thst yes its his job but his job shoukd also be helo people he could have told they guy i dont think u need it but if u want something take this. i been to a gnc one time while i was on roids and definitely looked good and guy told me if i look like i do now that theres nothing in that store going to helo me get bigger then i was. i told him when i went in i never used anything at all. protein pre-workout nothing and he told me if u was able to ger that size without anything u dont need it now. i just wanted to see what they would try sell me. bc 98% of it is bs. theres only a few things tbat help u if u have money for it but if not u dont need it. real food good food rest and working out hard and not missing workouts. thats key
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EandA
Jeff is simply stating a known fact: the supplement industry as a whole is in it for the quick buck. For those of you other guys who posted your comments please read this: as a former employee of that particular company in this video i can you that 100% of the time you are told to push certain fat burners and certain test boosters.
I as an IFPA Certified Fitness Trainer can tell you for those of you who dont know, most of your younger adults who work at these stores are personal trainers and as one when you take your test 90% of all tests have a number one rule that all trainers should and are expected to follow: DO NO HARM
So in short yes Jeff is correct and rightfully angry! If you take the time to ask identifying questions then your on the correct path to helping fix our societal problems.
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Jeff is simply stating a known fact: the supplement industry as a whole is in it for the quick buck. For those of you other guys who posted your comments please read this: as a former employee of that particular company in this video i can you that 100% of the time you are told to push certain fat burners and certain test boosters.
I as an IFPA Certified Fitness Trainer can tell you for those of you who dont know, most of your younger adults who work at these stores are personal trainers and as one when you take your test 90% of all tests have a number one rule that all trainers should and are expected to follow: DO NO HARM
So in short yes Jeff is correct and rightfully angry! If you take the time to ask identifying questions then your on the correct path to helping fix our societal problems.
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wedo435
I agree in the aspect that it is the responsibility of the consumer to do research and be accountable for the supplements they take, however for a marketing value and business value we all know CERTAIN supplement companies do not hire people with knowledge, they hire people with sales experience ahemm GNC. that being said you would think the salesperson would have some type of care or morale issue selling fat burners to a kid a buck 40 in the event something bad were to happen. but then again the salesperson isn't a certified trainer, most the time the are 120 pounds themselves, and have no supplement knowledge whatsoever, great video and im glad someone opened this issue up more.
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I agree in the aspect that it is the responsibility of the consumer to do research and be accountable for the supplements they take, however for a marketing value and business value we all know CERTAIN supplement companies do not hire people with knowledge, they hire people with sales experience ahemm GNC. that being said you would think the salesperson would have some type of care or morale issue selling fat burners to a kid a buck 40 in the event something bad were to happen. but then again the salesperson isn't a certified trainer, most the time the are 120 pounds themselves, and have no supplement knowledge whatsoever, great video and im glad someone opened this issue up more.
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Chris
I know it's years old, but. If you go out to eat and ask the wait staff for help on deciding, because you have dietary restrictions like say allergic to peanuts, they're not going to push the manager special that's loaded with peanuts. It would be irresponsible. The sales guy should have asked questions, tried steering Jesse in the direction of something that might have helped. But the dude asked no questions. Sure he made a sale, and his manager is happy. But that tone would change if that person has an adverse reaction to what they are given and the local police and news shows up asking questions.
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I know it's years old, but. If you go out to eat and ask the wait staff for help on deciding, because you have dietary restrictions like say allergic to peanuts, they're not going to push the manager special that's loaded with peanuts. It would be irresponsible. The sales guy should have asked questions, tried steering Jesse in the direction of something that might have helped. But the dude asked no questions. Sure he made a sale, and his manager is happy. But that tone would change if that person has an adverse reaction to what they are given and the local police and news shows up asking questions.
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Randy
Double the dose so you can come back and buy more twice as fast! If you survive. Anyway, I'd say, if a person is genuinely walking into a store looking for supplements, without much knowledge, WALK BACK OUT and go do research first. Don't just buy whatever someone tells you to buy. Take the time to train without supplentation and develop a proper sound nutritional meal plan. Learn your body and what you put into it. And lastly, don't seek advice from a salesperson lol. While not all of them, a good majority see dollar signs walking through the door, not people.
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Double the dose so you can come back and buy more twice as fast! If you survive. Anyway, I'd say, if a person is genuinely walking into a store looking for supplements, without much knowledge, WALK BACK OUT and go do research first. Don't just buy whatever someone tells you to buy. Take the time to train without supplentation and develop a proper sound nutritional meal plan. Learn your body and what you put into it. And lastly, don't seek advice from a salesperson lol. While not all of them, a good majority see dollar signs walking through the door, not people.
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Michael
Jesse needs to get some meat on those bones. lol We're the same height and I out weigh him by 50lbs. I see your point Jeff, but he did go into the store and ask for the product. I've had really good sales people help me out and I've had people who didn't know what they were talking about. It's with any industry to be quite honest, you have some sales people that take pride in their job and some that don't care. I think it all boils down to personal responsibility, this is 2014, do some research, Google something if you don't know.
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Jesse needs to get some meat on those bones. lol We're the same height and I out weigh him by 50lbs. I see your point Jeff, but he did go into the store and ask for the product. I've had really good sales people help me out and I've had people who didn't know what they were talking about. It's with any industry to be quite honest, you have some sales people that take pride in their job and some that don't care. I think it all boils down to personal responsibility, this is 2014, do some research, Google something if you don't know.
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CanadaBud23
Worked automotive retail for couples years and it's the same thing. Always ask what it's meant for and if need be recommend certain parts for certain things. Biggest issues we have are aftermarket lights wheels/nuts and spacers. Everyday occurrence too because the wrong combination of these can be a fatal accident. If I'm not sure or comfortable with what they are trying to do I won't sell them anything. It's one of the first thing covered before even getting the job along with a knowledgeable background of the industry.
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Worked automotive retail for couples years and it's the same thing. Always ask what it's meant for and if need be recommend certain parts for certain things. Biggest issues we have are aftermarket lights wheels/nuts and spacers. Everyday occurrence too because the wrong combination of these can be a fatal accident. If I'm not sure or comfortable with what they are trying to do I won't sell them anything. It's one of the first thing covered before even getting the job along with a knowledgeable background of the industry.
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