Your Cardio Machines are LYING To You!
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Date: 2022-07-26
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Comments and reviews: 14
LimitIsIllusion
My smart watch always seemed to be pretty accurate, and it does have more data than a treadmill. I listen to the calorie burn it says ad I lose, maintain, or gain weight accordingly. The thing about a treadmill is that it doesn't tell you whether it's including your baseline BMR into the calorie burn estimates. If you jog for a half hour and your BMR is 2000, that's 42 calories that may or may not be included in the treadmills estimation. That isn't a perfect guess because calorie burn that's part of your BMR varies depending on whether you're sleeping or not too.
You can outrun a bad diet too. I have a physical job and run a lot with maybe 3 days strength training a week. I eat a lot of healthy food, but still manage to eat a decent amount of less healthy carbs. It's likely more to do with the active job than the running though.
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My smart watch always seemed to be pretty accurate, and it does have more data than a treadmill. I listen to the calorie burn it says ad I lose, maintain, or gain weight accordingly. The thing about a treadmill is that it doesn't tell you whether it's including your baseline BMR into the calorie burn estimates. If you jog for a half hour and your BMR is 2000, that's 42 calories that may or may not be included in the treadmills estimation. That isn't a perfect guess because calorie burn that's part of your BMR varies depending on whether you're sleeping or not too.
You can outrun a bad diet too. I have a physical job and run a lot with maybe 3 days strength training a week. I eat a lot of healthy food, but still manage to eat a decent amount of less healthy carbs. It's likely more to do with the active job than the running though.
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David
I ignore the machine and feel that relying on my own smart watch recording is better. it is setup for me, my weight, my VO2 etc over time, and keeps my data in one place for me to reference. if I choose an indoor trainer workout compared to riding a road bike, with a chest HR monitor, and power meter, I feel it is much more accurate than any gym machine where you have to hold the bars to get the HR data. also, the watch can help me with training plans, duration, HIIT intervals etc. so it is a companion that makes any generic gym machine unattractive. only time I get on a gym bike or rower is to do a warm up for weights. cardio is more of a science for me, and my Garmin Fenix is what works for me at this point. at home, or out in the real world, climbing real hills, with real tailwinds and headwinds. not the A/C on high at the gym.
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I ignore the machine and feel that relying on my own smart watch recording is better. it is setup for me, my weight, my VO2 etc over time, and keeps my data in one place for me to reference. if I choose an indoor trainer workout compared to riding a road bike, with a chest HR monitor, and power meter, I feel it is much more accurate than any gym machine where you have to hold the bars to get the HR data. also, the watch can help me with training plans, duration, HIIT intervals etc. so it is a companion that makes any generic gym machine unattractive. only time I get on a gym bike or rower is to do a warm up for weights. cardio is more of a science for me, and my Garmin Fenix is what works for me at this point. at home, or out in the real world, climbing real hills, with real tailwinds and headwinds. not the A/C on high at the gym.
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Michael
Well well. When you're training using an ergometer the shown calorie burn is based on the wattage applied to the magnetic brake and the force and rpms you had during your training. Then an ergometer asumes your body has a 25% efficiency which is quite high an will mostly be achieved by very good trained profi bikers. So, if you are not Lance Armstrong, the amount of calories you burn will be higher than what an ergometer shows you. And the fact that a training device may call itself ergometer ensures the accuracy of the wattage used and the measures calory burn. So riding for an hour at 300W on an ergometer will at least burn 1000kcal. Which is the energy equivalent of one complete meal.
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Well well. When you're training using an ergometer the shown calorie burn is based on the wattage applied to the magnetic brake and the force and rpms you had during your training. Then an ergometer asumes your body has a 25% efficiency which is quite high an will mostly be achieved by very good trained profi bikers. So, if you are not Lance Armstrong, the amount of calories you burn will be higher than what an ergometer shows you. And the fact that a training device may call itself ergometer ensures the accuracy of the wattage used and the measures calory burn. So riding for an hour at 300W on an ergometer will at least burn 1000kcal. Which is the energy equivalent of one complete meal.
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sport
Few years ago i tried this app on my phone that calculates calories based on terrain and so forth. And i noticed that when i was running, i spent about the same amount of calories as when i was just walking, which made no sense. I sent them an email complaining about this, because i thought it was a bug. But no, apparently they include REE in their calculations, so spending more time on a certain distance walking then equals spending a shorter time while running, which turns out is almost the same total calorie usage. I just uninstalled the damn thing, it just made calculating way more difficult, as i already knew my total REE for the day.
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Few years ago i tried this app on my phone that calculates calories based on terrain and so forth. And i noticed that when i was running, i spent about the same amount of calories as when i was just walking, which made no sense. I sent them an email complaining about this, because i thought it was a bug. But no, apparently they include REE in their calculations, so spending more time on a certain distance walking then equals spending a shorter time while running, which turns out is almost the same total calorie usage. I just uninstalled the damn thing, it just made calculating way more difficult, as i already knew my total REE for the day.
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Steve
I have some questions. After a week of training and you know your fatigued, for example your range of motion is suffering and you have no adrenaline draw on, what forms of exercise will slow down recovery? Bruce Lee on his rest days would still remain active. If I do one of your 10 minute ab workouts will that slow down my recovery or is the increase in activity beneficial? Also my shoulders tend to take a beating because they are usually required in most of the exercises I do, is there a way to take better care those joints on a regular basis either nutrition or stretching wise?
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I have some questions. After a week of training and you know your fatigued, for example your range of motion is suffering and you have no adrenaline draw on, what forms of exercise will slow down recovery? Bruce Lee on his rest days would still remain active. If I do one of your 10 minute ab workouts will that slow down my recovery or is the increase in activity beneficial? Also my shoulders tend to take a beating because they are usually required in most of the exercises I do, is there a way to take better care those joints on a regular basis either nutrition or stretching wise?
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Alex
One more suggestion of a good workout equipment that will not lie to you a lot is a bike on an indoor direct drive trainer. The software from garmine and wahoo factors, targeted wats, age, weight. heart rate off of heart rate strap and level of exertion. Completely agree that no exercise matters given that your diet is crap. No don't eat less and exercise more, eat whole foods, lower sugar and seek more movement (walking is a great way to start)
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One more suggestion of a good workout equipment that will not lie to you a lot is a bike on an indoor direct drive trainer. The software from garmine and wahoo factors, targeted wats, age, weight. heart rate off of heart rate strap and level of exertion. Completely agree that no exercise matters given that your diet is crap. No don't eat less and exercise more, eat whole foods, lower sugar and seek more movement (walking is a great way to start)
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Nate
I always viewed cardio as second rate in comparison with resistance training when it comes to increasing metabolism and burning calories even when resting. My interpretation of cardio was always the best thing to do for your heart. I have heard to increase effectiveness of a cardio workout in regards to heart health would be to do 30 minutes or more. Is the information floating around in my head accurate or am I holding on to false information.
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I always viewed cardio as second rate in comparison with resistance training when it comes to increasing metabolism and burning calories even when resting. My interpretation of cardio was always the best thing to do for your heart. I have heard to increase effectiveness of a cardio workout in regards to heart health would be to do 30 minutes or more. Is the information floating around in my head accurate or am I holding on to false information.
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Zachary
I've been diagnosed with kyphosis - a posterior/anterior curvature of the spine. With hard work, I have found that my workouts have really helped to correct my imbalanced posture and straighten the spine. While I have seen good results from my workouts, I wonder if I'm approaching it all wrong - should I focus on corrective exercises or continue with my hypertrophy training and heavy lifting to help fix the problem? Thanks fellas.
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I've been diagnosed with kyphosis - a posterior/anterior curvature of the spine. With hard work, I have found that my workouts have really helped to correct my imbalanced posture and straighten the spine. While I have seen good results from my workouts, I wonder if I'm approaching it all wrong - should I focus on corrective exercises or continue with my hypertrophy training and heavy lifting to help fix the problem? Thanks fellas.
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Curtis
I solved the problem of my elliptical not asking for my weight. The caloric burn it reports is so low after a 30-minute, intense session (with no leaning on the machine, that I only use it as a cardio workout (breathing, heart, lungs, endurance. I use my treadmill (which does ask for my weight) for burning calories, along with walking dozens of miles (outside) every week, and, of course, eating clean 'most' of the time.
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I solved the problem of my elliptical not asking for my weight. The caloric burn it reports is so low after a 30-minute, intense session (with no leaning on the machine, that I only use it as a cardio workout (breathing, heart, lungs, endurance. I use my treadmill (which does ask for my weight) for burning calories, along with walking dozens of miles (outside) every week, and, of course, eating clean 'most' of the time.
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Karani
Wearables have improved significantly since that 2017 study. Nowadays a considerable number of wearables tend to underestimate how many calories you're burning during an exercise (since they aren't as accurate as medical-grade equipment at picking all the slight changes in heartrate. Peer-reviewed publications tend to be too slow on this aspect; the limit should be anything published within the past one year.
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Wearables have improved significantly since that 2017 study. Nowadays a considerable number of wearables tend to underestimate how many calories you're burning during an exercise (since they aren't as accurate as medical-grade equipment at picking all the slight changes in heartrate. Peer-reviewed publications tend to be too slow on this aspect; the limit should be anything published within the past one year.
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mik
When u compared the stair master or stepper to doing bicep curls, saying full extension is better, wouldn t fully extending your leg give u a quick rest period as you re lifting less weight the straighter your leg is, whereas you re actually keeping more leg muscles engaged by not fully extending them? Kind of like locking out your legs on a leg press compared to keeping a slight bend and the end of the rep
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When u compared the stair master or stepper to doing bicep curls, saying full extension is better, wouldn t fully extending your leg give u a quick rest period as you re lifting less weight the straighter your leg is, whereas you re actually keeping more leg muscles engaged by not fully extending them? Kind of like locking out your legs on a leg press compared to keeping a slight bend and the end of the rep
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Mark
As always another great video. The only reason I even look at the screen is for heart rate to see if I'm hitting my target heart rate. I always put the treadmill at an incline and on the stair stepper I do a few minutes of skipping every other step. As far as leaning on the machine, these folks probably lean on counters, shopping carts. at every opportunity which is also horrible for posture.
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As always another great video. The only reason I even look at the screen is for heart rate to see if I'm hitting my target heart rate. I always put the treadmill at an incline and on the stair stepper I do a few minutes of skipping every other step. As far as leaning on the machine, these folks probably lean on counters, shopping carts. at every opportunity which is also horrible for posture.
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BearJewMTB
Question for ANYONE: Ive always felt like these machines were not telling the truth. But how accurate are fitness trackers like an Apple Watch in comparison? I usually use that to track calories burned over the machines themselves. Oddly enough the what the watch says is always pretty close to what the machines read as well. And I dont have the watch synced up with the machines at all.
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Question for ANYONE: Ive always felt like these machines were not telling the truth. But how accurate are fitness trackers like an Apple Watch in comparison? I usually use that to track calories burned over the machines themselves. Oddly enough the what the watch says is always pretty close to what the machines read as well. And I dont have the watch synced up with the machines at all.
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Vince
I used to use the elliptical and would shift effort from legs to arms intermittently, as well as exaggerate upper body movement (twisting at the waist) instead of simply moving my arms. The machine had body weight input and I Always used heart rate and respiratatory levels as my guides to how I was improving, and always increased resistance levels when I stagnated. It worked!
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I used to use the elliptical and would shift effort from legs to arms intermittently, as well as exaggerate upper body movement (twisting at the waist) instead of simply moving my arms. The machine had body weight input and I Always used heart rate and respiratatory levels as my guides to how I was improving, and always increased resistance levels when I stagnated. It worked!
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