The Lateral Raise Is The ONLY Must-Do Exercise (MY RESPONSE)
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Date: 2019-11-06
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Without squats, bench, deadlifting, you will have an incomplete body. Don't need to squat 600, deadlift 500, and bench 400 but to get overall thickness and mass and have a strong looking and balanced body, the big 3's are a must imo. Apart from these 3, if there's a must exercise I'd rephrase that and say there's a must body part to be worked and that's neck, calves and forearms. If you do a 12 week cycle and nothing more than bench, squat, deadlift 3 times a week, neck/calves/forearms 2 times a week, you will transform the hell out of your body. On the contrary. if you do lateral raises for 12 weeks and 3 times a week, and pick 2 other major movements and do the neck/calves/forearms as mentioned, you will have an incomplete build. There's no magic formula BUT the closest thing to a magic formula for a strong balanced body is bench, squat, deadlift.
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Without squats, bench, deadlifting, you will have an incomplete body. Don't need to squat 600, deadlift 500, and bench 400 but to get overall thickness and mass and have a strong looking and balanced body, the big 3's are a must imo. Apart from these 3, if there's a must exercise I'd rephrase that and say there's a must body part to be worked and that's neck, calves and forearms. If you do a 12 week cycle and nothing more than bench, squat, deadlift 3 times a week, neck/calves/forearms 2 times a week, you will transform the hell out of your body. On the contrary. if you do lateral raises for 12 weeks and 3 times a week, and pick 2 other major movements and do the neck/calves/forearms as mentioned, you will have an incomplete build. There's no magic formula BUT the closest thing to a magic formula for a strong balanced body is bench, squat, deadlift.
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DCJayhawk57
I think a big factor is that larger, compound lifts are much easier to progressively overload over time and therefore are core movements in making progress over time as a natural. Of course everyone has different genetics, but there's a limit to how much you're going to be able to do with good form on accessory or supplementary movements. There are many ways to build muscle, but I think for most naturals, progressive overload should be the main focus. Also, the Big 3 have a lot of variations, whereas there aren't just a lot of ways to do other alternatives (like leg press, for example. There's no reason you can't apply these same principles to other compound lifts like overhead press and rows(Started writing this comment before finishing the video and realize you make pretty much these exact same points)
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I think a big factor is that larger, compound lifts are much easier to progressively overload over time and therefore are core movements in making progress over time as a natural. Of course everyone has different genetics, but there's a limit to how much you're going to be able to do with good form on accessory or supplementary movements. There are many ways to build muscle, but I think for most naturals, progressive overload should be the main focus. Also, the Big 3 have a lot of variations, whereas there aren't just a lot of ways to do other alternatives (like leg press, for example. There's no reason you can't apply these same principles to other compound lifts like overhead press and rows(Started writing this comment before finishing the video and realize you make pretty much these exact same points)
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Bat Eats Moth
A lot of people get the wrong idea that you need to keep your pinkies up when doing side laterals, but it doesn't really work so well that way. If you do side laterals with your thumbs up, your whole deltoid lights up. Raise your arm in both positions, and feel your delt. Pinkies up: just medial head. Thumbs up: you get anterior, medial and posterior head activation. That's because in the thumbs up position, you're not just raising the dumbbell to the side; you're also pulling it back as you pull it up. This also increases activation of the upper trapezius. So as long as you're doing it thumbs-up, you can use the side lateral as a replacement for all other shoulder exercises.
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A lot of people get the wrong idea that you need to keep your pinkies up when doing side laterals, but it doesn't really work so well that way. If you do side laterals with your thumbs up, your whole deltoid lights up. Raise your arm in both positions, and feel your delt. Pinkies up: just medial head. Thumbs up: you get anterior, medial and posterior head activation. That's because in the thumbs up position, you're not just raising the dumbbell to the side; you're also pulling it back as you pull it up. This also increases activation of the upper trapezius. So as long as you're doing it thumbs-up, you can use the side lateral as a replacement for all other shoulder exercises.
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leopardsbasketball
Good video Jeff but the efficiency/effectiveness argument about the two styles isn't making sense to me. If a training style (or anything at all for that matter) is efficient, you are therefore achieving the same goal and in less time, with less work. By definition, this would mean that the program was effective. I feel I'm off base and haven't understood what you mean. Bodybuilder I think have a beef with the key compounds because they don't put you in the hypertrophy zone quite like isolation, nor do they work targeted muscle groups that may be underdeveloped in certain people, hence why this dogma is being rejected by purist bodybuilders.
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Good video Jeff but the efficiency/effectiveness argument about the two styles isn't making sense to me. If a training style (or anything at all for that matter) is efficient, you are therefore achieving the same goal and in less time, with less work. By definition, this would mean that the program was effective. I feel I'm off base and haven't understood what you mean. Bodybuilder I think have a beef with the key compounds because they don't put you in the hypertrophy zone quite like isolation, nor do they work targeted muscle groups that may be underdeveloped in certain people, hence why this dogma is being rejected by purist bodybuilders.
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Halven 89
Cliff is right, especially when it comes to the conventional deadlift and bench, why? Because conventional deadlifts has a shitty range of motion and is taxing as hell for the central nervous system. It's great for functional strength and has a good carry-over to certain sports, but for bodybuilding it's a shitty exercise compared to exercises that takes the involved muscles through their full range of motion, like RDL's, knee flexion exercises, shrugs, squats etc. And when it comes to the barbell bench press the range of motion is also limited because of the bar hitting the chest, so for hypertrophy dumbbells are the whey to go.
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Cliff is right, especially when it comes to the conventional deadlift and bench, why? Because conventional deadlifts has a shitty range of motion and is taxing as hell for the central nervous system. It's great for functional strength and has a good carry-over to certain sports, but for bodybuilding it's a shitty exercise compared to exercises that takes the involved muscles through their full range of motion, like RDL's, knee flexion exercises, shrugs, squats etc. And when it comes to the barbell bench press the range of motion is also limited because of the bar hitting the chest, so for hypertrophy dumbbells are the whey to go.
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Vortex
The only reason why people say the big 3 lifts get you big is because it works multiple body parts at once. There are people out there for example David laid who dont work on isolation. They just focus on compound movements and only that. Bench deadlift and squat should only be used to set PRs. Doing only compound movement leads to an unproportionate body as well. And finally. with the barbell you can cheat the weight up. Strength does have a direct correlation with building muscle however if that excercise is not done correctly then your not making progress.
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The only reason why people say the big 3 lifts get you big is because it works multiple body parts at once. There are people out there for example David laid who dont work on isolation. They just focus on compound movements and only that. Bench deadlift and squat should only be used to set PRs. Doing only compound movement leads to an unproportionate body as well. And finally. with the barbell you can cheat the weight up. Strength does have a direct correlation with building muscle however if that excercise is not done correctly then your not making progress.
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nikos peltekis
for aesthetics delts are most important musclegroup sure. I agree with the lateral raises because side delts give you this capped look, i found cables way more successfull instead of DB though. Of course some kind of shoulder presses has its place but i think like all musclegroups genetics are number 1 indicator for growth potential, difficulty to grow them, shape of the muscle(long or short muscle bellies. I also believe it's very difficult to have great shoulders as a natural, at least in my own brainwashed from the industry point of view: P
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for aesthetics delts are most important musclegroup sure. I agree with the lateral raises because side delts give you this capped look, i found cables way more successfull instead of DB though. Of course some kind of shoulder presses has its place but i think like all musclegroups genetics are number 1 indicator for growth potential, difficulty to grow them, shape of the muscle(long or short muscle bellies. I also believe it's very difficult to have great shoulders as a natural, at least in my own brainwashed from the industry point of view: P
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Tim Rand
No people ego lifting in powerlifting get hurt. Everything is balance. If your off that day or feel something lingering concentrate more on light weight and form. Stretch and stay healthy. I dont do much triceps or biceps isolation work. All the compounds and full body workout 3 or 4 days a week is perfect for a natural. My arms are bigger now from saving strength and utilizing on bigger compounds such as pendlay rows, pull-ups, seated rows, shoulder presses
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No people ego lifting in powerlifting get hurt. Everything is balance. If your off that day or feel something lingering concentrate more on light weight and form. Stretch and stay healthy. I dont do much triceps or biceps isolation work. All the compounds and full body workout 3 or 4 days a week is perfect for a natural. My arms are bigger now from saving strength and utilizing on bigger compounds such as pendlay rows, pull-ups, seated rows, shoulder presses
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Jaanu Gul
my biggest problem with powerlifters today (or what they would like to be called) they truly believe the 3 lifts are solely all is necessary to get the package. But its not true, so many of them at my gym are so underdeveloped its sad they remain sessile and never grow or learn. all these endless programs for what? the best approach is a combo of powerlifting for the 3 lifts and bodybuilding for the actual formation and sculpting. you need both.
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my biggest problem with powerlifters today (or what they would like to be called) they truly believe the 3 lifts are solely all is necessary to get the package. But its not true, so many of them at my gym are so underdeveloped its sad they remain sessile and never grow or learn. all these endless programs for what? the best approach is a combo of powerlifting for the 3 lifts and bodybuilding for the actual formation and sculpting. you need both.
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