How big can cities get?
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Date: 2020-10-29
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GloriousSimplicity
You mentioned that Chinese cities growth is limited by slowing population growth, this makes it seem like Chinese city growth is primarily driven by birthrate - death rate.
While this is certainly a contributing factor, these cities are growing because of population migration from rural areas motivated be economic opportunity provided by Chinese Special Economic Zones.
When you were born, Shenzhen essentially didn't exist, but now is one of the largest cities in the world. During the majority of this growth period, China had implemented its infamous One Child policy. There is no way that Shenzhen's growth can be explained by birthrate - death rate.
China has a population of 1. 5 billion. While there are more of them than the ones mentioned in the video, you mentioned something like 0. 3 billion people living in them. With the disparity in the quality of life inside vs outside the special economic zones, it seems that one of the main limitations for the growth of these cities is the will of the Chinese government to continue certain economic policies.
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You mentioned that Chinese cities growth is limited by slowing population growth, this makes it seem like Chinese city growth is primarily driven by birthrate - death rate.
While this is certainly a contributing factor, these cities are growing because of population migration from rural areas motivated be economic opportunity provided by Chinese Special Economic Zones.
When you were born, Shenzhen essentially didn't exist, but now is one of the largest cities in the world. During the majority of this growth period, China had implemented its infamous One Child policy. There is no way that Shenzhen's growth can be explained by birthrate - death rate.
China has a population of 1. 5 billion. While there are more of them than the ones mentioned in the video, you mentioned something like 0. 3 billion people living in them. With the disparity in the quality of life inside vs outside the special economic zones, it seems that one of the main limitations for the growth of these cities is the will of the Chinese government to continue certain economic policies.
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rdormer
Once one side of a city is so far away from the other that the people who live there have little interaction with those on the other end, I'd argue that the city is basically two cities. Administratively it may be taxed and financed as one unit, but that's largely an accounting convenience. In any ways that really matter, they're separate entities. If I have to take a prolonged train ride, drive for two and a half hours, or take a plane to get to the other end of my city, then there's going to be enough local differences that my destination isn't really the same city that I left from.
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Once one side of a city is so far away from the other that the people who live there have little interaction with those on the other end, I'd argue that the city is basically two cities. Administratively it may be taxed and financed as one unit, but that's largely an accounting convenience. In any ways that really matter, they're separate entities. If I have to take a prolonged train ride, drive for two and a half hours, or take a plane to get to the other end of my city, then there's going to be enough local differences that my destination isn't really the same city that I left from.
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We
I think a way of looking at it on a micro scale is looking at places like Greater Manchester in the UK, every town and city in the area, has it's own identity, which includes accents that change even within towns themselves. It causes weird council problems as some are under umbrella organisations like transport and police that are for the entire Greater Manchester area, but then planning, highways etc are under local control. In the greater Manchester area you also have metropolitan boroughs inside it, which is also adds confusion.
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I think a way of looking at it on a micro scale is looking at places like Greater Manchester in the UK, every town and city in the area, has it's own identity, which includes accents that change even within towns themselves. It causes weird council problems as some are under umbrella organisations like transport and police that are for the entire Greater Manchester area, but then planning, highways etc are under local control. In the greater Manchester area you also have metropolitan boroughs inside it, which is also adds confusion.
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Mochamad
I think there was a mismatch at 0: 21 - it says Jakarta, Indonesia but at 1: 58 the same picture is used for Karachi. I live around Jakarta and I don't recognize the landscape in the picture either (Jakarta is largely flat and devoid of any large open space closer to the coast, plus the coastline is just straight with a slight curve to it, so I presume it is actually Karachi and not Jakarta being shown.
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I think there was a mismatch at 0: 21 - it says Jakarta, Indonesia but at 1: 58 the same picture is used for Karachi. I live around Jakarta and I don't recognize the landscape in the picture either (Jakarta is largely flat and devoid of any large open space closer to the coast, plus the coastline is just straight with a slight curve to it, so I presume it is actually Karachi and not Jakarta being shown.
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Kimetz
Could you someday talk about the transition of heavily industrialized city to a third sector city? (And because of proximity, it would personally make me happy if you mentioned Bilbao, but, you know, it is not really necessary considering the ammount of former industrial cities in the US)
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Could you someday talk about the transition of heavily industrialized city to a third sector city? (And because of proximity, it would personally make me happy if you mentioned Bilbao, but, you know, it is not really necessary considering the ammount of former industrial cities in the US)
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Daniel
Well I believe according to Civilization 6, you can expand 3-5 tiles from your city and reach maybe a total population of somewhere between 60 and 100 (which would require you to focus on nothing but food production) But what do I know, I barely have 3k hours of gameplay
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Well I believe according to Civilization 6, you can expand 3-5 tiles from your city and reach maybe a total population of somewhere between 60 and 100 (which would require you to focus on nothing but food production) But what do I know, I barely have 3k hours of gameplay
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Alpine
Love your videos! I am the main urban planner for the Minecraft city you reviewed a couple months ago, and I was the one that created the urban planning document. I like to incorporate some of the elements you talk about in your videos in my Minecraft building videos!
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Love your videos! I am the main urban planner for the Minecraft city you reviewed a couple months ago, and I was the one that created the urban planning document. I like to incorporate some of the elements you talk about in your videos in my Minecraft building videos!
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sarvesh
How about if we create jobs in suburbs of mega cities and we Focus on sustainable infrastructure and transportation in suburbs it would be great to reduce footfalls in downtown area or in main city. What you guys think?
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How about if we create jobs in suburbs of mega cities and we Focus on sustainable infrastructure and transportation in suburbs it would be great to reduce footfalls in downtown area or in main city. What you guys think?
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Kai-Mon
Imo the ideal city size is 1, 000, 000 people. There s enough things to do, enough jobs to go around, but commutes aren t ridiculous, and housing can still be affordable.
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Imo the ideal city size is 1, 000, 000 people. There s enough things to do, enough jobs to go around, but commutes aren t ridiculous, and housing can still be affordable.
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