
Do You Need A Gun On the PCT?
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Date: 2020-08-18
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Dr.
Hello from WA. Last Summer, two mountain bikers were attacked by a cougar, one man was killed. One woman hiker was killed by a cougar near Mt Hood, Ore. Last year a man was murdered on the south side of Mt. St Helen's. That's last Summer. Since 2010 6 people have vanished in the Gifford Pinchot NF. That's Mt. Adams & Mt. St Helen's. More have vanished in the Mt. Hood NF. The PCT is the very middle of same. I know of a couple that were at 5000' in the North Cascades that were robbed at gunpoint with the woman being raped by three men. I've been stalked by a monster cougar, threatened by a black bear, Western Timber Wolves and a female Elk tried to stomp my lab to death. I'm in the Gifford nearly every weekend all year, can't seem to get my fill. Don't fool yourselves Trail Mate's. In Washington, any American Citizen not prohibited may carry a concealed pistol without a concealed pistol license while engaged in any lawful outdoor recreational activity. We also have open carry state wide, in town or not. Goggle it. Good 'Ole Washington. Same for Ore. & Idaho. Good 'Ole PNW. A few year's ago a man was killed by one of our mountain goats. They are a large animal. Olympic NP. Other people stood there and watched but provided no assistance. The kindness of strangers. My pack is 40lbs, and I have a rifle, a pistol and three dog's. I sleep sweetly, and can protect everyone else. We're just hike in overnighters. I forgot to mention the scum of the earth people I've dealt with in a wild place. The rifle is actually for those predators. When they see a pistol they can still be aggressive. When they see a rifle and a pistol they don't think you have equal to or better than firepower, they know you do. Your not their victims. In your tent or hammock, a rifle is nearly useless. Hence the pistol, which is an ultra light cannon. And enough, in a pinch. Arm yourselves Trail Mate's. See you all in the Gifford! Happy Trails!
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Hello from WA. Last Summer, two mountain bikers were attacked by a cougar, one man was killed. One woman hiker was killed by a cougar near Mt Hood, Ore. Last year a man was murdered on the south side of Mt. St Helen's. That's last Summer. Since 2010 6 people have vanished in the Gifford Pinchot NF. That's Mt. Adams & Mt. St Helen's. More have vanished in the Mt. Hood NF. The PCT is the very middle of same. I know of a couple that were at 5000' in the North Cascades that were robbed at gunpoint with the woman being raped by three men. I've been stalked by a monster cougar, threatened by a black bear, Western Timber Wolves and a female Elk tried to stomp my lab to death. I'm in the Gifford nearly every weekend all year, can't seem to get my fill. Don't fool yourselves Trail Mate's. In Washington, any American Citizen not prohibited may carry a concealed pistol without a concealed pistol license while engaged in any lawful outdoor recreational activity. We also have open carry state wide, in town or not. Goggle it. Good 'Ole Washington. Same for Ore. & Idaho. Good 'Ole PNW. A few year's ago a man was killed by one of our mountain goats. They are a large animal. Olympic NP. Other people stood there and watched but provided no assistance. The kindness of strangers. My pack is 40lbs, and I have a rifle, a pistol and three dog's. I sleep sweetly, and can protect everyone else. We're just hike in overnighters. I forgot to mention the scum of the earth people I've dealt with in a wild place. The rifle is actually for those predators. When they see a pistol they can still be aggressive. When they see a rifle and a pistol they don't think you have equal to or better than firepower, they know you do. Your not their victims. In your tent or hammock, a rifle is nearly useless. Hence the pistol, which is an ultra light cannon. And enough, in a pinch. Arm yourselves Trail Mate's. See you all in the Gifford! Happy Trails!
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Robert
The rifle you are pictured with in the thumbnail, is that a 50 BMG short barrel or is it a 338 Lapua Barret? I know with 100% certainty it is a Barret. I also know it's not the same barrel on our sniper rifles. The ejection port is too big to be anything but a large caliber round. Not sure what you are taking aim at in the picture, but, whatever it was it was either killed or destroyed. I think I am in love.
Not with you Dixie. Come on, I am not some creepy dude who becomes fixated with ladies on the internet. My goodness, we have never even met.
The rifle. Lady that is one big beautiful piece of mechanical engineering. I am not sure if I'll ever be in the market for one. But. sometimes you have to buy things you don't need just because you want one.
As far as mountain lions go. I am not sure that the numbers are correct. I live near the Auburn National Forrest and used to run part of the Western States 100 trail. We have lost two runners killed by a mountain lion in the last several years. I personally have had to stop my run and slowly back the way I came as I saw a kit and the hind end of a second one and didn't see momma lion. They were feeding on a horse carcass that I found later that she or possibly coyotes had drug less than a mile from a row of houses that sit on the border of the national forest. The two ladies who were attacked and killed on the two different incidents were both training for the Western States and were both very able bodied and in top physical condition. The lion(s) appeared to have been stalking them until they reached different rocky outcroppings and they pounced.
A 105 lb woman isn't a match for a 160-200 lb adult male big cat. Hell, a 330 lb adult male NFL lineman is no match for one. Though it is highly unlikely that a big cat would attach large adult humans.
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The rifle you are pictured with in the thumbnail, is that a 50 BMG short barrel or is it a 338 Lapua Barret? I know with 100% certainty it is a Barret. I also know it's not the same barrel on our sniper rifles. The ejection port is too big to be anything but a large caliber round. Not sure what you are taking aim at in the picture, but, whatever it was it was either killed or destroyed. I think I am in love.
Not with you Dixie. Come on, I am not some creepy dude who becomes fixated with ladies on the internet. My goodness, we have never even met.
The rifle. Lady that is one big beautiful piece of mechanical engineering. I am not sure if I'll ever be in the market for one. But. sometimes you have to buy things you don't need just because you want one.
As far as mountain lions go. I am not sure that the numbers are correct. I live near the Auburn National Forrest and used to run part of the Western States 100 trail. We have lost two runners killed by a mountain lion in the last several years. I personally have had to stop my run and slowly back the way I came as I saw a kit and the hind end of a second one and didn't see momma lion. They were feeding on a horse carcass that I found later that she or possibly coyotes had drug less than a mile from a row of houses that sit on the border of the national forest. The two ladies who were attacked and killed on the two different incidents were both training for the Western States and were both very able bodied and in top physical condition. The lion(s) appeared to have been stalking them until they reached different rocky outcroppings and they pounced.
A 105 lb woman isn't a match for a 160-200 lb adult male big cat. Hell, a 330 lb adult male NFL lineman is no match for one. Though it is highly unlikely that a big cat would attach large adult humans.
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Alexander
I've been hiking/backpacking/camping since age 10 in Ohio and on five continents since. Only once did I fear for my life and it was a mountain lion that caught me off guard as I was responding to nature's call. There was never a need to carry a firearm and I am an avid gun collector. Plain old common sense and good judgment will keep you out of trouble 99. 9% of the time. Carrying a firearm on the trail can be problematic even when done legally.
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I've been hiking/backpacking/camping since age 10 in Ohio and on five continents since. Only once did I fear for my life and it was a mountain lion that caught me off guard as I was responding to nature's call. There was never a need to carry a firearm and I am an avid gun collector. Plain old common sense and good judgment will keep you out of trouble 99. 9% of the time. Carrying a firearm on the trail can be problematic even when done legally.
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Modest
Being a hunter in Oregon that hunts fairly close to the PCT I can assure you there are more statistics not being shared to the public. There are no statistics that state the number of people the fend off wild life with a firearm. I can assure from my experience as well as other professionals that a gun in the wilderness will save your life if you spend enough time out there.
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Being a hunter in Oregon that hunts fairly close to the PCT I can assure you there are more statistics not being shared to the public. There are no statistics that state the number of people the fend off wild life with a firearm. I can assure from my experience as well as other professionals that a gun in the wilderness will save your life if you spend enough time out there.
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Kibashi
You are probably in much more danger from a self inflicted accidental shooting than from criminal activity. 20, 000 injuries and 475-500 deaths per year in America. Figure it out. I know a lot of gun owners who want to carry say but I'm a safe and responsible. Then who the hell has 20, 000 accidental shootings every year?
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You are probably in much more danger from a self inflicted accidental shooting than from criminal activity. 20, 000 injuries and 475-500 deaths per year in America. Figure it out. I know a lot of gun owners who want to carry say but I'm a safe and responsible. Then who the hell has 20, 000 accidental shootings every year?
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JimCTSCLO
Statistics mean nothing when you are the one getting killed. Having a weapon would be prudent risk management in the highly unlikely event you are confronted and need to protect yourself. Better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it. So, IMHO, yes, carry a gun. X
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Statistics mean nothing when you are the one getting killed. Having a weapon would be prudent risk management in the highly unlikely event you are confronted and need to protect yourself. Better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it. So, IMHO, yes, carry a gun. X
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Eric
For those that are curious the Utah out of state permit will get you the ability to concealed carry in Washington. The Utah permit is a pretty popular one because it grants you the ability to carry in a number of states, and the course can often be taken in one's home state.
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For those that are curious the Utah out of state permit will get you the ability to concealed carry in Washington. The Utah permit is a pretty popular one because it grants you the ability to carry in a number of states, and the course can often be taken in one's home state.
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Jared
Carrying is a choice. I would rather carry and not need it, than not carry than need it. I've been shot at before. Its not fun to have this happen. I had a fool using hill side I was on for a back stop. I had a few rounds go zip past my ear.
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Carrying is a choice. I would rather carry and not need it, than not carry than need it. I've been shot at before. Its not fun to have this happen. I had a fool using hill side I was on for a back stop. I had a few rounds go zip past my ear.
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Brian
Bears or mountain lions shouldn't be the reason to carry guns. Pistol will do nothing against adult bears. Only anger them. Bear spray is far more effective. May consider guns for human intruders but not for animals.
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Bears or mountain lions shouldn't be the reason to carry guns. Pistol will do nothing against adult bears. Only anger them. Bear spray is far more effective. May consider guns for human intruders but not for animals.
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Eric
I have hiked thousands of miles and camped for hundreds of days and never carried a weapon other than a knife and a whistle. I have never felt endanger. What are people going to take. My smelly gear?
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I have hiked thousands of miles and camped for hundreds of days and never carried a weapon other than a knife and a whistle. I have never felt endanger. What are people going to take. My smelly gear?
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