Chevy Colorado P0017 Case Study Part 5
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Date: 2020-08-05
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M. R.
As a mechanic with forty years of experience, I must say that you went above and beyond the call of duty on this one. Your customers are very lucky to have you. You went full-on Sherlock on this one buddy! As a fourteen year Colorado owner (150K miles, 2. 8L engine, 4wd, manual trans, I must express that these are very good vehicles if you care for them: Change oil every 5K miles with a good synthetic of the proper weight, use a GOOD oil filter, not the cheapest one you can find. Allow the engine to warm up fully before using more than half throttle, then hang your foot in it if you like. Always allow it to cool down the last mile or so before shutting it down. If you do those three things, you will avoid problems with the internals of your engine. including the valve train and timing chains. People commonly use some store brand oil they bought at 7-11, ignore problems, run their oil quantity low, and then bash the manufacturer because the machine let them down.
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As a mechanic with forty years of experience, I must say that you went above and beyond the call of duty on this one. Your customers are very lucky to have you. You went full-on Sherlock on this one buddy! As a fourteen year Colorado owner (150K miles, 2. 8L engine, 4wd, manual trans, I must express that these are very good vehicles if you care for them: Change oil every 5K miles with a good synthetic of the proper weight, use a GOOD oil filter, not the cheapest one you can find. Allow the engine to warm up fully before using more than half throttle, then hang your foot in it if you like. Always allow it to cool down the last mile or so before shutting it down. If you do those three things, you will avoid problems with the internals of your engine. including the valve train and timing chains. People commonly use some store brand oil they bought at 7-11, ignore problems, run their oil quantity low, and then bash the manufacturer because the machine let them down.
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Rmk
I own a 04 and 08 trailblazer with the ENGINEERING MARVEL Atlas engine Chevrolet made in the 4, 5 and 6 cylinder configuration. Though they made plenty of horse power and have low emissions they are such a nightmare to service the cam phaser, chain and tensioners, dropping steering, pulling, axles, removing oil pan and just about everything else, you might as well pull the whole engine and put in a rebuilt. By the 5 video span, i wonder what the time and labor costs ran on this truck? If a local Chevy dealership did that work my guess it would be close to 3000. If the vehicle is in otherwise great shape i would go rebuilt or trade it in and cut your losses. But very great video and awesome job Eric!
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I own a 04 and 08 trailblazer with the ENGINEERING MARVEL Atlas engine Chevrolet made in the 4, 5 and 6 cylinder configuration. Though they made plenty of horse power and have low emissions they are such a nightmare to service the cam phaser, chain and tensioners, dropping steering, pulling, axles, removing oil pan and just about everything else, you might as well pull the whole engine and put in a rebuilt. By the 5 video span, i wonder what the time and labor costs ran on this truck? If a local Chevy dealership did that work my guess it would be close to 3000. If the vehicle is in otherwise great shape i would go rebuilt or trade it in and cut your losses. But very great video and awesome job Eric!
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Senior
What an absolutely outstanding series! Back when you made the comment, Come on GM! in one of the earlier videos, that's exactly what I have exclaimed when over the past year and a half; I have had two friends have their timing detonate on their Ecoticks. Another friend had their 6L80 self destruct at under 150k (reman'ed plug and play trans has done awesome though) and now my friends 06 Colorado 3. 5 and it's ridiculousness from rotted fuel sending unit and now the over-engineered timing dilemma. I want to say thank you so much for putting together such an incredibly insightful series on deciphering GM's rubbish! My hats off to you captain!
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What an absolutely outstanding series! Back when you made the comment, Come on GM! in one of the earlier videos, that's exactly what I have exclaimed when over the past year and a half; I have had two friends have their timing detonate on their Ecoticks. Another friend had their 6L80 self destruct at under 150k (reman'ed plug and play trans has done awesome though) and now my friends 06 Colorado 3. 5 and it's ridiculousness from rotted fuel sending unit and now the over-engineered timing dilemma. I want to say thank you so much for putting together such an incredibly insightful series on deciphering GM's rubbish! My hats off to you captain!
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Garth
Holy Moly. what a huge diagnosis and no library information to assess the fault. After these 4 parts of video, I have to wonder how many book hours this job paid compared to the real hours and how many hours of diagnostic time this took to final make the call on parts. I cringe wondering how much damage a bod shop would have done to all of the wire looms, plastic parts, dip stick tube etc. etc. So many mechanics put their hands up in the air and say everything is old and brittle, nothing I can do. Of course not, not if you have to set a record completing the job so that the pay works out to be worth the job, regardless of the sloppy work.
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Holy Moly. what a huge diagnosis and no library information to assess the fault. After these 4 parts of video, I have to wonder how many book hours this job paid compared to the real hours and how many hours of diagnostic time this took to final make the call on parts. I cringe wondering how much damage a bod shop would have done to all of the wire looms, plastic parts, dip stick tube etc. etc. So many mechanics put their hands up in the air and say everything is old and brittle, nothing I can do. Of course not, not if you have to set a record completing the job so that the pay works out to be worth the job, regardless of the sloppy work.
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Scott
After extensive research this video addressed the condition and cure for my 06 Colorado. Now, I understand why the cost to repair is as high as I've been quoted. The decision now is, do I spend 3k to save a 4K vehicle. What I didn't catch during this repair was weather or not the variable valve timing solenoid was replaced before the repair process began and/or would this replacement part helped clear the code?
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After extensive research this video addressed the condition and cure for my 06 Colorado. Now, I understand why the cost to repair is as high as I've been quoted. The decision now is, do I spend 3k to save a 4K vehicle. What I didn't catch during this repair was weather or not the variable valve timing solenoid was replaced before the repair process began and/or would this replacement part helped clear the code?
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Jim
You're not that good at math? Hell, I don't even know what you are talking about doing those calculations. Duh. LOL. Great 5 part video Eric. Thanx
I did a timing chain once on my Astro many years ago. If it had involved everything this this one did, NOT. When you started taking all that stuff apart I could only go, DAYUM. ;-) You da man, Eric. And no, it is never too much.
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You're not that good at math? Hell, I don't even know what you are talking about doing those calculations. Duh. LOL. Great 5 part video Eric. Thanx
I did a timing chain once on my Astro many years ago. If it had involved everything this this one did, NOT. When you started taking all that stuff apart I could only go, DAYUM. ;-) You da man, Eric. And no, it is never too much.
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Richard
Late to the party here, but great work on ferreting that all out. Can't do anything but shake my head and mumble at the amount of work you had to go through just to replace the timing chain. GM should be ashamed. I think you are right though, if you do another one, just pull the engine. Again, GM should be ashamed.
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Late to the party here, but great work on ferreting that all out. Can't do anything but shake my head and mumble at the amount of work you had to go through just to replace the timing chain. GM should be ashamed. I think you are right though, if you do another one, just pull the engine. Again, GM should be ashamed.
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tankabbot22
Eric O and his family set the bar for how to run a shop and diagnose vehicles! He's always challenging himself to be a better tech! Free give always, teaching Josh, and working with Ivan and Keith to get to the next level! You are a true role model and a great teacher Eric! Thanks so much for all the hard work.
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Eric O and his family set the bar for how to run a shop and diagnose vehicles! He's always challenging himself to be a better tech! Free give always, teaching Josh, and working with Ivan and Keith to get to the next level! You are a true role model and a great teacher Eric! Thanks so much for all the hard work.
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mark
Between the first and last part I will know that I can ignore that money light code here in Indiana. I own an 04 rust bucket and I will wait for the valves to kiss or the chain to wad up.
I also know what a son of a beast them Colorado's are to work on. Hint they were made in Mexico.
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Between the first and last part I will know that I can ignore that money light code here in Indiana. I own an 04 rust bucket and I will wait for the valves to kiss or the chain to wad up.
I also know what a son of a beast them Colorado's are to work on. Hint they were made in Mexico.
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Sarah
Hi Eric, chain stretch, its a pain, go at least go fit a duplex chain in the us, every 50k single chain junk, any where after 55k, snap, you make a good point, 4. 5 deg. That not a lot of wear to set the code, but a brill video, who needs Netflix, many thanks.
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Hi Eric, chain stretch, its a pain, go at least go fit a duplex chain in the us, every 50k single chain junk, any where after 55k, snap, you make a good point, 4. 5 deg. That not a lot of wear to set the code, but a brill video, who needs Netflix, many thanks.
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