Nissan Dealer Quoted Over 2000 For A New Harness! - The Real Problem
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With it connected, only when coasting, or actively breaking, would the voltage drive up above 13-14V. Nissan did this to have better fuel eco. The only thing is that when the engine was under load, the voltage would drop below 12. 7, sometimes as low as 12. 3, thus pulling power from the battery, vs it being charged while the engine is running. I noticed, before i pulled the feed back circuit, if I had many short trips, my battery would start to get weak, and I'd need to charge it. My battery has been fine ever since. If anyone what's more info, take a look at some forum's that are for Nissan's, there are lots of threads talking about this.
Date: 2022-04-11
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autos
I learn my lesson with dealerships. Brought a new Ford F150, took it in for first oil change. Got it home and the next day noticed an oil spot under the engine on the driveway
called the dealership and ask what I should do. They said drive it to the shop. I asked them to tow it. I didn t want to drive it with it leaking oil, not knowing how bad it was leaking.
Not to worry, they said, just bring it to the shop. Against my better judgement, I took it to their shop. Picked it up the next day, and they told me the oil filter was loose and handed me a 77. 00 bill.
I asked what this bill was for, and they said to troubleshoot and tighten the filter. Needless to say, I was a little pissed and told them you idiots, you're the ones that changed my oil, and I wasn't going to pay the bill. I called the dealership owner the next day and asked what was going on with their service department. I was told by him that their best service tech worked on my truck, and he did not like the fact I called his service manager an idiot. Not only that, but I had bought new vehicles from this guy for over 30 years, and this was the way they treated me. Traded the truck the next day at a different dealership. If that was the best tech they had and didn't know to check for leaks after an oil change, that dealership is not working on my vehicles.
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I learn my lesson with dealerships. Brought a new Ford F150, took it in for first oil change. Got it home and the next day noticed an oil spot under the engine on the driveway
called the dealership and ask what I should do. They said drive it to the shop. I asked them to tow it. I didn t want to drive it with it leaking oil, not knowing how bad it was leaking.
Not to worry, they said, just bring it to the shop. Against my better judgement, I took it to their shop. Picked it up the next day, and they told me the oil filter was loose and handed me a 77. 00 bill.
I asked what this bill was for, and they said to troubleshoot and tighten the filter. Needless to say, I was a little pissed and told them you idiots, you're the ones that changed my oil, and I wasn't going to pay the bill. I called the dealership owner the next day and asked what was going on with their service department. I was told by him that their best service tech worked on my truck, and he did not like the fact I called his service manager an idiot. Not only that, but I had bought new vehicles from this guy for over 30 years, and this was the way they treated me. Traded the truck the next day at a different dealership. If that was the best tech they had and didn't know to check for leaks after an oil change, that dealership is not working on my vehicles.
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Old
Eric, we've met at the Rochester Kia dealer when you bought Mrs O's vehicle. I can't make an excuse for what the lead Nissan fella did, but I will say I'm jealous of your equipment. Our scan tool is pathetic, our oscilloscope is antiquated and extremely slow. Sure I could go out and buy a Pico, but 99% of the time we are mandated to use the Kia tool so it can be tracked by Kia. Our technical support is laughable. People ask me sometimes, you must really know a lot working at a dealer, I'm honest with them and tell them you quality independent shops are more knowledgeable than we are and have better tools. I've often wanted to make the change to an independent shop, but with a sick wife I need really good insurance which I'm not sure the mom and pops can provide. Until then, I'll keep watching and hoping to be like you someday. We'll done.
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Eric, we've met at the Rochester Kia dealer when you bought Mrs O's vehicle. I can't make an excuse for what the lead Nissan fella did, but I will say I'm jealous of your equipment. Our scan tool is pathetic, our oscilloscope is antiquated and extremely slow. Sure I could go out and buy a Pico, but 99% of the time we are mandated to use the Kia tool so it can be tracked by Kia. Our technical support is laughable. People ask me sometimes, you must really know a lot working at a dealer, I'm honest with them and tell them you quality independent shops are more knowledgeable than we are and have better tools. I've often wanted to make the change to an independent shop, but with a sick wife I need really good insurance which I'm not sure the mom and pops can provide. Until then, I'll keep watching and hoping to be like you someday. We'll done.
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autos
I was pretty sure this was a bad alternator almost from the beginning of part 1, I had an 03 Maxima that would become similarly undrivable when its crappy re-man alternator started overcharging at random times. And like this car, the problem came on suddenly - when the factory alternator wore out it began slowly under-charging until I was forced to replace it, but with the re-man it was fine one moment and then boom, xmas tree dash and the car would barely move.
As for that Nissan dealer, they need to refund every cent that lady wasted there and then fire every tech who diagnosed that thing. Imagine throwing a grand of irrelevant parts at the car and then quoting another 2k of work that still wouldn't have fixed it, when a teenage AutoZone employee probably could have guessed what the real problem was. Simply astounding.
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I was pretty sure this was a bad alternator almost from the beginning of part 1, I had an 03 Maxima that would become similarly undrivable when its crappy re-man alternator started overcharging at random times. And like this car, the problem came on suddenly - when the factory alternator wore out it began slowly under-charging until I was forced to replace it, but with the re-man it was fine one moment and then boom, xmas tree dash and the car would barely move.
As for that Nissan dealer, they need to refund every cent that lady wasted there and then fire every tech who diagnosed that thing. Imagine throwing a grand of irrelevant parts at the car and then quoting another 2k of work that still wouldn't have fixed it, when a teenage AutoZone employee probably could have guessed what the real problem was. Simply astounding.
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chrismechanic
Eric, you da man, im doing a timing chain on a 116i bmw N43B20A, a thing for a friend and one of those job's you quickly wish you never took on, oil pickup is full of plastic chips, sump had to come off so steering rack and subframe off, then they put a bolt behind the engine support bracket (you only realize half way through the job that you need to get to that) and you need to remove the support bracket but it's the only thing holding the engine up.
i think it may have had oil starvation 0. 0, help mee!
im a bmw fan but this is just silly.
she needs a refund for sure, silly main stealers.
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Eric, you da man, im doing a timing chain on a 116i bmw N43B20A, a thing for a friend and one of those job's you quickly wish you never took on, oil pickup is full of plastic chips, sump had to come off so steering rack and subframe off, then they put a bolt behind the engine support bracket (you only realize half way through the job that you need to get to that) and you need to remove the support bracket but it's the only thing holding the engine up.
i think it may have had oil starvation 0. 0, help mee!
im a bmw fan but this is just silly.
she needs a refund for sure, silly main stealers.
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turner0224
Amazing, people go to the dealer expecting excellence for their brand instead of going to some little shop in the middle of nowhere. More times than not you get extremely disappointed by the certified professionals ha ha ha. At my Chevy dealership each technician must have a four year degree, trust me that only means they ve collected enough credits to graduate. Most can t wipe their butts with a bed sheet, written instructions and a free lunch ha ha ha i
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Amazing, people go to the dealer expecting excellence for their brand instead of going to some little shop in the middle of nowhere. More times than not you get extremely disappointed by the certified professionals ha ha ha. At my Chevy dealership each technician must have a four year degree, trust me that only means they ve collected enough credits to graduate. Most can t wipe their butts with a bed sheet, written instructions and a free lunch ha ha ha i
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tom
Im old man of 58 i wish i lived close to you. I trust you 100% your a very great mechanic. Nissan needs to reimburse her. Me i dont have all that fancy scanners. I would have done the alternator first myself after seeing the spikes in voltage and strain on system. and battery light flickering. Dont listen to the know it all idiots. Any real car guy knows your are no. 1! and all who watch you regularly know you know your stuff very very very well!
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Im old man of 58 i wish i lived close to you. I trust you 100% your a very great mechanic. Nissan needs to reimburse her. Me i dont have all that fancy scanners. I would have done the alternator first myself after seeing the spikes in voltage and strain on system. and battery light flickering. Dont listen to the know it all idiots. Any real car guy knows your are no. 1! and all who watch you regularly know you know your stuff very very very well!
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Dean
I would not have the first idea how to do the checks you did nor have the tools to check But, Yesterday I did think of a bad Alt. . We dont have garages here that take the time to find out whats wrong they just throw parts out hoping it fixes same. I had a KIA that ran poorly but two garages told me to buy another car but could not tell me what was the matter with it. Nearly a grand later without a fix, I ended up buying a new car.
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I would not have the first idea how to do the checks you did nor have the tools to check But, Yesterday I did think of a bad Alt. . We dont have garages here that take the time to find out whats wrong they just throw parts out hoping it fixes same. I had a KIA that ran poorly but two garages told me to buy another car but could not tell me what was the matter with it. Nearly a grand later without a fix, I ended up buying a new car.
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Geoff
All the dealership techs know how to do is load the parts cannon. That s it. Independent service shops actually have to work on a verity of vehicles and those people learn things along the way. Nice job on that fix Eric. Not once were you led astray by the idiot lights. If that repair was left up to the dealership, that poor lady would ve paid for a new harness, then a new engine, then maybe, just maybe, a new alternator. Sheesh.
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All the dealership techs know how to do is load the parts cannon. That s it. Independent service shops actually have to work on a verity of vehicles and those people learn things along the way. Nice job on that fix Eric. Not once were you led astray by the idiot lights. If that repair was left up to the dealership, that poor lady would ve paid for a new harness, then a new engine, then maybe, just maybe, a new alternator. Sheesh.
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Memphis
I once had a truck with a diagnosis of a blown head gasket, which was causing over-heating. 2000 later I picked up the RAM to discover that they also replaced the radiator. Convenient. I paid up, helpless, knowing the dealership's initial diagnosis was wrong.
Had the lady stayed with the dealership they would have replaced the harness, and finally discovered the alternator was bad too.
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I once had a truck with a diagnosis of a blown head gasket, which was causing over-heating. 2000 later I picked up the RAM to discover that they also replaced the radiator. Convenient. I paid up, helpless, knowing the dealership's initial diagnosis was wrong.
Had the lady stayed with the dealership they would have replaced the harness, and finally discovered the alternator was bad too.
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