LONG ISLAND RAILROAD: Unique and great and then.
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Date: 2024-01-09
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-MrSuperpiff4
LIRR daily commuter here, I loved the video, and I have a few minor points 1) C3 are late '90s stock and new rolling stock (te M9s) have plugs, and I'm certain the C3 replacement will as well, BUT there are actually a few secret plugs on correct C3s and M7s that are easy to miss but handy in a pinch. 2) that conductor is definitely not indicative of everyone who works on the railroad; I've had way more good than bad. 3) About half of the LIRR diesels are duel mode (diesel and third rail for Penn Station service, including the one you were on. 3) maybe I am just too often of a commuter, but freight is not a rare sight, ESPECIALLY where you filmed just east of Jamaica; there are always empty cars there. Both the NYA and LIRR move -freight- on the line, and with all the track work it's even more common. What is somewhat rare is seeing NYA actually on the move with GP38s and a longish consist.
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LIRR daily commuter here, I loved the video, and I have a few minor points 1) C3 are late '90s stock and new rolling stock (te M9s) have plugs, and I'm certain the C3 replacement will as well, BUT there are actually a few secret plugs on correct C3s and M7s that are easy to miss but handy in a pinch. 2) that conductor is definitely not indicative of everyone who works on the railroad; I've had way more good than bad. 3) About half of the LIRR diesels are duel mode (diesel and third rail for Penn Station service, including the one you were on. 3) maybe I am just too often of a commuter, but freight is not a rare sight, ESPECIALLY where you filmed just east of Jamaica; there are always empty cars there. Both the NYA and LIRR move -freight- on the line, and with all the track work it's even more common. What is somewhat rare is seeing NYA actually on the move with GP38s and a longish consist.
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-MLampner
When I was a kid prior to the state take over and perhaps for a while after there was what was known as the club car. It was part of the consist on trains for the evening commute. The regulars would get a drink, a cocktail or a beer and then would settle down to either a game of cards or occasionally dominos. The riders all more or less knew each other and the people playing were almost always in the same group. With the coming of the M1 cars on the electrified lines the club car vanished. Its funny but a number of heritage railroads seem to fancy the cars the M1s replaced. I've ridden them on a number of such operations including a few a fair distance from NY.
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When I was a kid prior to the state take over and perhaps for a while after there was what was known as the club car. It was part of the consist on trains for the evening commute. The regulars would get a drink, a cocktail or a beer and then would settle down to either a game of cards or occasionally dominos. The riders all more or less knew each other and the people playing were almost always in the same group. With the coming of the M1 cars on the electrified lines the club car vanished. Its funny but a number of heritage railroads seem to fancy the cars the M1s replaced. I've ridden them on a number of such operations including a few a fair distance from NY.
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-dnguyen9747
As a local, I'm not surprised that you had a bad experience riding on the LIRR. Usually, the staff would error on the side of doing nothing instead of doing something. My experience with the conductors has been that they will do the minimal required and when asked to deal with badly behaving riders, they will most of the time refuse and just walk away. I'm surprised that this conductor decided to confront you. The LIRR has been badly managed and full of corruption from the top all the way to the bottom with employees running massive false disability claims. I've been riding this line for over 25 years, it hasn't improved.
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As a local, I'm not surprised that you had a bad experience riding on the LIRR. Usually, the staff would error on the side of doing nothing instead of doing something. My experience with the conductors has been that they will do the minimal required and when asked to deal with badly behaving riders, they will most of the time refuse and just walk away. I'm surprised that this conductor decided to confront you. The LIRR has been badly managed and full of corruption from the top all the way to the bottom with employees running massive false disability claims. I've been riding this line for over 25 years, it hasn't improved.
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-3506Dodge
The U. S. isn't France. You don't have to pay much attention to underemployed public employees such as her. She's used to being dismissed and when you didn't dismiss her, she saw her chance to feel the rush of exercising a bit of momentary power. She's probably threatened and ignored much of the time. Public transit in the U. S. can be a nasty messy business and New York even more so. New Yorkers would have been much more aggressive with her than you are. New Yorkers only know how to deal with other New Yorkers. It's like it's own separate society even if it is technically part of the U. S.
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The U. S. isn't France. You don't have to pay much attention to underemployed public employees such as her. She's used to being dismissed and when you didn't dismiss her, she saw her chance to feel the rush of exercising a bit of momentary power. She's probably threatened and ignored much of the time. Public transit in the U. S. can be a nasty messy business and New York even more so. New Yorkers would have been much more aggressive with her than you are. New Yorkers only know how to deal with other New Yorkers. It's like it's own separate society even if it is technically part of the U. S.
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train
Oh god- I ride this branch often, 3-5 times a week and I recognized this conductor just by her voice. I guess she only works on the Oyster Bay Branch, but she by far my least favorite conductor to get. She is always impatient and annoying. She-ll often ask for my ticket after she had already taken it, demand I get up and move all my stuff forward a car to exit even through there-s still 10 minutes to the last stop, and will pick fights over tiny rules (can-t have my backpack on the seat beside me cause other passengers may want to sit, meanwhile the train is 90% empty.
You got Unlucky dude.
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Oh god- I ride this branch often, 3-5 times a week and I recognized this conductor just by her voice. I guess she only works on the Oyster Bay Branch, but she by far my least favorite conductor to get. She is always impatient and annoying. She-ll often ask for my ticket after she had already taken it, demand I get up and move all my stuff forward a car to exit even through there-s still 10 minutes to the last stop, and will pick fights over tiny rules (can-t have my backpack on the seat beside me cause other passengers may want to sit, meanwhile the train is 90% empty.
You got Unlucky dude.
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-GasparLewis
-Unique and great and then. - is a quintessential Long Island feeling. You even took my line!
If you ever revisit and do a full commuter experience from Penn Station to a terminus, I'd recommend the Long Beach line; the station's right on the main drag, and you can walk down to the boardwalk & beach in 3-5 minutes. Very popular local destination in the summer.
Sorry about the conductor; Long Islanders just aren't used to people paying much attention to us. (I'd probably be a little curious what you were up to myself, to be honest)
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-Unique and great and then. - is a quintessential Long Island feeling. You even took my line!
If you ever revisit and do a full commuter experience from Penn Station to a terminus, I'd recommend the Long Beach line; the station's right on the main drag, and you can walk down to the boardwalk & beach in 3-5 minutes. Very popular local destination in the summer.
Sorry about the conductor; Long Islanders just aren't used to people paying much attention to us. (I'd probably be a little curious what you were up to myself, to be honest)
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-SCFoamer
The thing about Jamaica Station is that it's not popular because of L. I. R. R; it's also popular because of AirTrain, in which, I can clarify since I've rode the train to move to LA, but since AirTrain is linked to JFK, it plays a major key part in making Jamaica Station so popular. To be completely honest, Jamaica Station being operated on L. I. R. R alone just makes it 2. 5x busy than L. A. Union Station when you get a Texas Eagle and Coast Starlight on the same day within 30 minutes. Jus my perspective, don't take my word for it.
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The thing about Jamaica Station is that it's not popular because of L. I. R. R; it's also popular because of AirTrain, in which, I can clarify since I've rode the train to move to LA, but since AirTrain is linked to JFK, it plays a major key part in making Jamaica Station so popular. To be completely honest, Jamaica Station being operated on L. I. R. R alone just makes it 2. 5x busy than L. A. Union Station when you get a Texas Eagle and Coast Starlight on the same day within 30 minutes. Jus my perspective, don't take my word for it.
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-mrvwbug4423
my experience on LIRR was definitely more positive, but last time I was in NY was 2016, took the train from Ronkonkoma to Penn station and the train was busy but clean. That trip was on a M7. That style of seat is used on pretty much all silverliner style trains like the M3s and M7s and even the Hyundai-Rotem Silverliner 5s used by SEPTA and RTD in Denver, pitch is a little snug but you figure they need to cram a lot of people on there during rush hours and most trips on those trains are typically less than 30 minutes.
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my experience on LIRR was definitely more positive, but last time I was in NY was 2016, took the train from Ronkonkoma to Penn station and the train was busy but clean. That trip was on a M7. That style of seat is used on pretty much all silverliner style trains like the M3s and M7s and even the Hyundai-Rotem Silverliner 5s used by SEPTA and RTD in Denver, pitch is a little snug but you figure they need to cram a lot of people on there during rush hours and most trips on those trains are typically less than 30 minutes.
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-drjtk76
The conductor elicited very poor customer service. She probably won-t last very long at her job, or any job, with that type of behavior. Glad her supervisor was involved. You should write a letter informing the powers to be about your negative experience and how several thousand of your viewers got to see LIRR-s poor customer service. I bet you will DEFINITELY get a formal written apology then! Love your videos! Don-t be discouraged. Keep them coming!
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The conductor elicited very poor customer service. She probably won-t last very long at her job, or any job, with that type of behavior. Glad her supervisor was involved. You should write a letter informing the powers to be about your negative experience and how several thousand of your viewers got to see LIRR-s poor customer service. I bet you will DEFINITELY get a formal written apology then! Love your videos! Don-t be discouraged. Keep them coming!
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-RobertMauro
Just one correction. (5m21s mark) All current LIRR trains (including the old M1's coming back into service) have a power outlet (more than one actually. Instead of just a few at the door seats (or at the door seats and mid car, the M9's have ones at every seat.
I think you meant to say -Every train -seat- should have a power outlet-?
Regardless, sadly, no, the M9's are not replacing all of the older rolling stock.
Anyway, cool vid!
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Just one correction. (5m21s mark) All current LIRR trains (including the old M1's coming back into service) have a power outlet (more than one actually. Instead of just a few at the door seats (or at the door seats and mid car, the M9's have ones at every seat.
I think you meant to say -Every train -seat- should have a power outlet-?
Regardless, sadly, no, the M9's are not replacing all of the older rolling stock.
Anyway, cool vid!
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-Yo_Its_Matty_ice
As someone who was born and raised on LI and someone who travels on the LIRR frequently. man this did not put our best foot forward. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, especially with that conductor.
If you're ever in the area again, might I suggest a ride on the Montauk branch from Penn! Same loco and rolling stock but most of the line is elevated along the south shore in Nassau and you get some great views!
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As someone who was born and raised on LI and someone who travels on the LIRR frequently. man this did not put our best foot forward. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, especially with that conductor.
If you're ever in the area again, might I suggest a ride on the Montauk branch from Penn! Same loco and rolling stock but most of the line is elevated along the south shore in Nassau and you get some great views!
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-jameskerner7782
I might be one of the few people who doesn't like the rebuilt Jamaica station. The old station was easy to get to the tracks. From the street level, you walk up to the point where you could not only walk to the platforms but get a snack or go to a nice sized newsstand and buy papers magazines or other goodies. As for disabled people, they could have had the elevators go to the platform levels.
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I might be one of the few people who doesn't like the rebuilt Jamaica station. The old station was easy to get to the tracks. From the street level, you walk up to the point where you could not only walk to the platforms but get a snack or go to a nice sized newsstand and buy papers magazines or other goodies. As for disabled people, they could have had the elevators go to the platform levels.
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train
As one quite familiar with LIRR, the bi-level coaches used with diesel equipment come in conjoined pairs. One of the two has a toilet, also a driver cab for push-pull operation. About the conductor, this is New York. One cannot expect British civility in the Big Apple! Finally it-s shame you alighted a East Williston. The ride continues to Oyster Bay through some lovely Long Island North Shore scenery.
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As one quite familiar with LIRR, the bi-level coaches used with diesel equipment come in conjoined pairs. One of the two has a toilet, also a driver cab for push-pull operation. About the conductor, this is New York. One cannot expect British civility in the Big Apple! Finally it-s shame you alighted a East Williston. The ride continues to Oyster Bay through some lovely Long Island North Shore scenery.
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-cats0182
Jamaica is in QUEENS, not Brooklyn. The C3 Coaches are designed that way to fit into the East River Tunnels and the confines of the Penn Station tracks and platforms. The LIRR tried bi-level designs as far back as the late 1930's and 1940's. The idea is to get people from here to there quickly and as comfortably as possible given the normal passenger load.
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Jamaica is in QUEENS, not Brooklyn. The C3 Coaches are designed that way to fit into the East River Tunnels and the confines of the Penn Station tracks and platforms. The LIRR tried bi-level designs as far back as the late 1930's and 1940's. The idea is to get people from here to there quickly and as comfortably as possible given the normal passenger load.
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train
Im so sorry that happened to you. As a Long Island Resident Im disapointed with the behavior you encountered with that conductor. I had my own run ins on the LIRR. But report it anyway. When I did my ride videos. I be inconspicuous. But it is VERY rare to be busted for filming. Just do it when no one is looking and youll be alright. Keep it up!
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Im so sorry that happened to you. As a Long Island Resident Im disapointed with the behavior you encountered with that conductor. I had my own run ins on the LIRR. But report it anyway. When I did my ride videos. I be inconspicuous. But it is VERY rare to be busted for filming. Just do it when no one is looking and youll be alright. Keep it up!
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-siah0GG
I live in nyc. Was born and raised here even though I-m still young. Jamaica is in Queens. Also I use the subway soon might start use commuter rail as I might move out to Long Island how does it work because I-m use to the same train on a line coming every few minutes. Like 2min on some lines. 4min on other so how does it work
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I live in nyc. Was born and raised here even though I-m still young. Jamaica is in Queens. Also I use the subway soon might start use commuter rail as I might move out to Long Island how does it work because I-m use to the same train on a line coming every few minutes. Like 2min on some lines. 4min on other so how does it work
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-kkparis
You don-t actually need to use the elevators in Jamaica. If you continue to go south on Sutphin Blvd, after the ticket office, there are stairs leading to every platform. Much quicker. Same for going from the Airtrain to the subway, go down the escalator and under the LIRR tracks and you-ll get to the subway much faster.
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You don-t actually need to use the elevators in Jamaica. If you continue to go south on Sutphin Blvd, after the ticket office, there are stairs leading to every platform. Much quicker. Same for going from the Airtrain to the subway, go down the escalator and under the LIRR tracks and you-ll get to the subway much faster.
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-trainrover
your treatment on board is typical, although I did hold my breath while watching your filming the Jamaica hub, because I was hounded for filming their facility, which had you refused then they could've arrested you to prosecute. even Montreal too. that whole tidier-world spiel doesn't fly well over here either; )
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your treatment on board is typical, although I did hold my breath while watching your filming the Jamaica hub, because I was hounded for filming their facility, which had you refused then they could've arrested you to prosecute. even Montreal too. that whole tidier-world spiel doesn't fly well over here either; )
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-rikycenotti6485
Hi Simply Railway, Nice Video and beautiful train, i'm Also took The Lirr from jamaica to penn Station in May 2019 but my Train was the M7 and luckily i haven't problems with the conductor, I recommend you to send a complaint to MTA, for the rude behavior of the conductor
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Hi Simply Railway, Nice Video and beautiful train, i'm Also took The Lirr from jamaica to penn Station in May 2019 but my Train was the M7 and luckily i haven't problems with the conductor, I recommend you to send a complaint to MTA, for the rude behavior of the conductor
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-Rickyrab
Some railroad employees in the NYC/Philly metro areas are a bit touchy about photography because of 9/11, which is a bit silly (9/11 involved AIRPLANES, for crying out loud, even though taking pictures isn't actually against the rules.
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Some railroad employees in the NYC/Philly metro areas are a bit touchy about photography because of 9/11, which is a bit silly (9/11 involved AIRPLANES, for crying out loud, even though taking pictures isn't actually against the rules.
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-Alco_1611
as a Brazilian, is interesting to me see a commuter train with toilets. Like, this ride take 20 minutes, here in my region we have a commuter line that takes around 2 hours and the trains don't have a toilet lol
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as a Brazilian, is interesting to me see a commuter train with toilets. Like, this ride take 20 minutes, here in my region we have a commuter line that takes around 2 hours and the trains don't have a toilet lol
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-scottyerkes1867
Many great trips on the LIRR went via Jamaica. Busiest train station in New York after Penn Station and Grand Central
Sorry you had an unpleasant experience with a conductor.
Thanks Thibault. ----
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Many great trips on the LIRR went via Jamaica. Busiest train station in New York after Penn Station and Grand Central
Sorry you had an unpleasant experience with a conductor.
Thanks Thibault. ----
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-kbunky69
Commuters On The LIRR know how to sleep on the trip and never miss their stop home lol. takes a few years to master it but don't need an announcement from the Conductor. Those that know, know lol
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Commuters On The LIRR know how to sleep on the trip and never miss their stop home lol. takes a few years to master it but don't need an announcement from the Conductor. Those that know, know lol
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-samkuzel
I can't imagine what law she thought you were breaking. Obviously you were vindicated, but I am genuinely curious why she thought filming would be illegal - I've never ever heard of such a thing.
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I can't imagine what law she thought you were breaking. Obviously you were vindicated, but I am genuinely curious why she thought filming would be illegal - I've never ever heard of such a thing.
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-tommarino1056
The conductor who told you that you couldn-t film was absolutely wrong. Federal courts have ruled that anyone can film on public transportation. Good that the supervisor knew the law.
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The conductor who told you that you couldn-t film was absolutely wrong. Federal courts have ruled that anyone can film on public transportation. Good that the supervisor knew the law.
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-skywardguy9081
I hope you consider the Metro North trip from Grand Central Terminal to Poughkeepsie on the Hudson Line. Beautiful views of the Hudson River and you can stop in Beacon where I live!
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I hope you consider the Metro North trip from Grand Central Terminal to Poughkeepsie on the Hudson Line. Beautiful views of the Hudson River and you can stop in Beacon where I live!
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-KewlWhip-eu5ib
I bet she approached you because train buffs are annoying. Try doing your job while some buff is recording in your workplace. Very rude thing to do. At least ask the crew first!
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I bet she approached you because train buffs are annoying. Try doing your job while some buff is recording in your workplace. Very rude thing to do. At least ask the crew first!
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-paulbriggs3072
Well you did the whole trip without showing nearly anything out the window. Could have been Long Island, maybe Iowa, or Pakistan, the moon perhaps. How very clever of you!
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Well you did the whole trip without showing nearly anything out the window. Could have been Long Island, maybe Iowa, or Pakistan, the moon perhaps. How very clever of you!
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-bklynbubba
I forgot to mention that I think all of your videos are really excellent. You review trains in the USA for what they are. It's not Europe or Asia, but it is getting better.
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I forgot to mention that I think all of your videos are really excellent. You review trains in the USA for what they are. It's not Europe or Asia, but it is getting better.
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train
Regarding filming on trains, be careful if you ever decide to make a video about PATH. They prohibit filming or photography on their trains and stations without prior permission.
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Regarding filming on trains, be careful if you ever decide to make a video about PATH. They prohibit filming or photography on their trains and stations without prior permission.
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-aydenamaya7951
Unfortunately the LIRR C3 coaches and DE/DM30ACs were built pre-technology. And after the year 2000 EMD stopped using those parts so the Units can not be updated
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Unfortunately the LIRR C3 coaches and DE/DM30ACs were built pre-technology. And after the year 2000 EMD stopped using those parts so the Units can not be updated
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-Adelaide_Transit
Im just waiting for the day you ride some Australian suburban railways, you wont be able to tell if its a metro or a commuter service in most cities: )
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Im just waiting for the day you ride some Australian suburban railways, you wont be able to tell if its a metro or a commuter service in most cities: )
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-BikerDad49
FYI, it's officially the -Long Island Rail Road-, likely the only US line that separates the word. Thanks for posting a great video of my hometown's railroad!
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FYI, it's officially the -Long Island Rail Road-, likely the only US line that separates the word. Thanks for posting a great video of my hometown's railroad!
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-iiikkkiiizzz
LIRR Bi Level coaches built by Kawasaki Rail Car, Inc, not by Bombardier. 7: 24 time mark of the video clearly shows Kawasaki tag left side of the door.
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LIRR Bi Level coaches built by Kawasaki Rail Car, Inc, not by Bombardier. 7: 24 time mark of the video clearly shows Kawasaki tag left side of the door.
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-yankeesforlife24
Lirr employees always have a problem with people filming tbh. And yeah I love bi level cars especially the njt multi levels but the c3s just suck.
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Lirr employees always have a problem with people filming tbh. And yeah I love bi level cars especially the njt multi levels but the c3s just suck.
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