
Tren a la Nubes - Breathtaking ride through the Andes at more than 4200 meters
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Date: 2024-01-09
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-marcelogutgt22
Excellent video and very well narrated. I'll make you a correction, the locomotive is not an EMD G22, it's an EMD GT 22 CU. In Argentina, the 7700 series are G22 and the 9700 series are GT 22. The EMD G22 is a shorter locomotive with less power. In this case, the locomotive that guided your train was 9710. This numbering applies to the General Belgrano Railway, which is the one that makes the route C 14 or Train to the Clouds. As for the passenger cars, there were 2 types on the train you used, the Materfer, made in the province of Cordoba and the Tafi Viejo, made in the Province of Tucuman, the Tafi Viejo are the ones where the lower part of the car is lean inwards. For example, in the video the car P 4058 is a Tafi Viejo. The letter P (Primera clase) is for First Class. Another of the cars says PB 4506, PB would be First Class with Bar.
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Excellent video and very well narrated. I'll make you a correction, the locomotive is not an EMD G22, it's an EMD GT 22 CU. In Argentina, the 7700 series are G22 and the 9700 series are GT 22. The EMD G22 is a shorter locomotive with less power. In this case, the locomotive that guided your train was 9710. This numbering applies to the General Belgrano Railway, which is the one that makes the route C 14 or Train to the Clouds. As for the passenger cars, there were 2 types on the train you used, the Materfer, made in the province of Cordoba and the Tafi Viejo, made in the Province of Tucuman, the Tafi Viejo are the ones where the lower part of the car is lean inwards. For example, in the video the car P 4058 is a Tafi Viejo. The letter P (Primera clase) is for First Class. Another of the cars says PB 4506, PB would be First Class with Bar.
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-oat138
Very nice video. The train would go on many switchbacks and it would really take a very long time to get up to the Bridge. The train would go from downtown Salta.
That mountain with the snow on top, is Nevado de Cachi. From what I was told by a couple of people, there are skeletons of children on it. Some tribe of people back in the day, would desigate one if their kids to be the -GIFT- and one day, they would tell the kid to start walking up that mountain. They would not be given food or water or warm clothes. They would climb until they died. When the Incan's invaded this area, they put a stop to that -Barbaric- activity. Like I said, I heard that from a couple of people.
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Very nice video. The train would go on many switchbacks and it would really take a very long time to get up to the Bridge. The train would go from downtown Salta.
That mountain with the snow on top, is Nevado de Cachi. From what I was told by a couple of people, there are skeletons of children on it. Some tribe of people back in the day, would desigate one if their kids to be the -GIFT- and one day, they would tell the kid to start walking up that mountain. They would not be given food or water or warm clothes. They would climb until they died. When the Incan's invaded this area, they put a stop to that -Barbaric- activity. Like I said, I heard that from a couple of people.
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-TheCrowAR
Hi there, the locomotive is a GT22, not a G22. Both sounds very different each other. Besides the difference between them, you can check the number, all the locomotives with 9xxx in Argentina are GT22 (with some exceptions ex: A-923, the G22 in Argentina are 7xxx. The coaches: With letter P XXXX are -Materfer-Pistoeisi-. The Ones PB xxx (Bar, PV xxxx and RA xxxx are Materfer-FIAT Concord, i don't know the exact composition of Tren a las Nubes in 2022, but that's all the types of car that ever ran on the Tren a las Nubes. I hope this info will be useful for you.
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Hi there, the locomotive is a GT22, not a G22. Both sounds very different each other. Besides the difference between them, you can check the number, all the locomotives with 9xxx in Argentina are GT22 (with some exceptions ex: A-923, the G22 in Argentina are 7xxx. The coaches: With letter P XXXX are -Materfer-Pistoeisi-. The Ones PB xxx (Bar, PV xxxx and RA xxxx are Materfer-FIAT Concord, i don't know the exact composition of Tren a las Nubes in 2022, but that's all the types of car that ever ran on the Tren a las Nubes. I hope this info will be useful for you.
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Look for the Great Railway Journeys episode, High Andes to Patagonia presented by US actor and producer Buck Henry. He begins with Tren a Las Nubes, depicting coca tea, toasted coca leaves in the buffet car, and medical oxygen and even a doctor on board.
As late as 1999 the Tren a Las Nubes began and ended in Salta, without the bus ride. Left 7 am, mid afternoon at the bridge, back in Salta late evening.
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Look for the Great Railway Journeys episode, High Andes to Patagonia presented by US actor and producer Buck Henry. He begins with Tren a Las Nubes, depicting coca tea, toasted coca leaves in the buffet car, and medical oxygen and even a doctor on board.
As late as 1999 the Tren a Las Nubes began and ended in Salta, without the bus ride. Left 7 am, mid afternoon at the bridge, back in Salta late evening.
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-carpinchopescador
It's funny how you complain about how you don't understand Spanish well, and on the bus ride, the tour guide says she sounds like she's speaking French when she wants to pronounce a name. What she didn't know was that there was a Frenchman on board XD (by the way, I don't know French, but it didn't seem French to me)
Have a nice trip!
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It's funny how you complain about how you don't understand Spanish well, and on the bus ride, the tour guide says she sounds like she's speaking French when she wants to pronounce a name. What she didn't know was that there was a Frenchman on board XD (by the way, I don't know French, but it didn't seem French to me)
Have a nice trip!
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I mapped out the entire track route from Salta, Argentina to the Pacific Ocean. Unfortunately the train excursion begins at San Antonio de los Corres, Argentina, at about track mile 124 and only goes as far as the Viaducto la Polvorilla at about track mile 137. So you take a 109 mile bus ride from Salta for about a 26 mile round trip train excursion.
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I mapped out the entire track route from Salta, Argentina to the Pacific Ocean. Unfortunately the train excursion begins at San Antonio de los Corres, Argentina, at about track mile 124 and only goes as far as the Viaducto la Polvorilla at about track mile 137. So you take a 109 mile bus ride from Salta for about a 26 mile round trip train excursion.
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One last note. Thank you and bless you for your generous offering of your time, treasure, and talents by videoing and uploading your train journeys! At 65, retired, on a limited income, and heart issues I could never possibly take such a trip so bless you for bringing the journey to us. Merci beaucoup.
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One last note. Thank you and bless you for your generous offering of your time, treasure, and talents by videoing and uploading your train journeys! At 65, retired, on a limited income, and heart issues I could never possibly take such a trip so bless you for bringing the journey to us. Merci beaucoup.
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-dennisud
When My dad retired my parents lived in Antofagasta for a few years! They should do a Tourist sleeper train line between Antofagasta and Salta! Imagine it! And as I was born in Chile I understood everything I heard on your video! -
That bridge beckons us to continue to Chile! -
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When My dad retired my parents lived in Antofagasta for a few years! They should do a Tourist sleeper train line between Antofagasta and Salta! Imagine it! And as I was born in Chile I understood everything I heard on your video! -
That bridge beckons us to continue to Chile! -
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-robertmcshea8868
Dear Simply Railway, I highly recommend that you look into making the full journey o the White Pass & Yukon railway in Alaska. It is a bit of a chore to get there, but the Alaska Marine Highway ferries and Air Alaska can get you to Skagway. It would be memorable for you.
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Dear Simply Railway, I highly recommend that you look into making the full journey o the White Pass & Yukon railway in Alaska. It is a bit of a chore to get there, but the Alaska Marine Highway ferries and Air Alaska can get you to Skagway. It would be memorable for you.
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-charlesbaran1106
What is the purpose of the gondola car at the end of the coach consist? At first I thought it was an open-air car for passengers (like on the Cumbres & Toltec RR in Colorado and New Mexico and other tourist trains, but I did not see people in it.
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What is the purpose of the gondola car at the end of the coach consist? At first I thought it was an open-air car for passengers (like on the Cumbres & Toltec RR in Colorado and New Mexico and other tourist trains, but I did not see people in it.
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-LQC2556
The scenery of this train ride is quite interesting - it does look similar to the Grand Canyon area, but at twice the elevation.
Also, just a random thought but it's interesting that an American engineer would design a train line of 1000 mm gauge.
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The scenery of this train ride is quite interesting - it does look similar to the Grand Canyon area, but at twice the elevation.
Also, just a random thought but it's interesting that an American engineer would design a train line of 1000 mm gauge.
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I've watched two of these Argentinian railway journeys so far. Both times there was a buffer car (empty freight car) between the locomotive and the train itself. Anyone knows why that seems to be standard practice with Argentinian rail companies?
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I've watched two of these Argentinian railway journeys so far. Both times there was a buffer car (empty freight car) between the locomotive and the train itself. Anyone knows why that seems to be standard practice with Argentinian rail companies?
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-richardestes4259
When I Was 9, I went from Arequipa to Hauncayo with my parents. Don-t remember much but stopping at the pass(12700 ft ) to let a doctor come on board with oxygen for the passengers. I had siroche and a terrible headache
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When I Was 9, I went from Arequipa to Hauncayo with my parents. Don-t remember much but stopping at the pass(12700 ft ) to let a doctor come on board with oxygen for the passengers. I had siroche and a terrible headache
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-MadScientist750
They look like the old Werkspoor units, maybe they pulled them from the Buenos Aires - Mar del Plata line, they used to work together with some Hitachi - Pullman ones. Locomotive is likely an GM-EMD GT22.
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They look like the old Werkspoor units, maybe they pulled them from the Buenos Aires - Mar del Plata line, they used to work together with some Hitachi - Pullman ones. Locomotive is likely an GM-EMD GT22.
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-EpicThe112
Parisian French Argentine Spanish mutual intelligibility it has to be on the written form. Keep in mind Argentine Spanish is mutually intelligible with Brazilian Portuguese in both spoken or written forms.
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Parisian French Argentine Spanish mutual intelligibility it has to be on the written form. Keep in mind Argentine Spanish is mutually intelligible with Brazilian Portuguese in both spoken or written forms.
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-csizipeti
Hi man, Great videos, but please stop waisting water. We'll believe if you say all works just fine. No need to press every tap buttons, water is a very precious commodity especially at those arid areas.
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Hi man, Great videos, but please stop waisting water. We'll believe if you say all works just fine. No need to press every tap buttons, water is a very precious commodity especially at those arid areas.
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-davidcuulong9935
At 17: 04 I love your translation, -You'll experience breathing trouble and ATTITUDE sickness-.
A wonderful trip, it is too bad it is such a short length of the line.
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At 17: 04 I love your translation, -You'll experience breathing trouble and ATTITUDE sickness-.
A wonderful trip, it is too bad it is such a short length of the line.
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-WhoWhereTheBee
It's an incredible trip i'm yet to make some day. Engineer Richard Fontaine Maury and my grandfather, also an engineer here in Argentina, were very close friends.
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It's an incredible trip i'm yet to make some day. Engineer Richard Fontaine Maury and my grandfather, also an engineer here in Argentina, were very close friends.
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-d1234as
The shortened version removes all the spirals and zig-zags from the line, the main reasons because this line is famous (with the altitude and the andinian landscape.
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The shortened version removes all the spirals and zig-zags from the line, the main reasons because this line is famous (with the altitude and the andinian landscape.
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-alfredocoelho8088
Salut Thibault! The seats are kind of standard for long distance bus lines here in Argentina. Thanks again for reviewing trains of our country man!
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Salut Thibault! The seats are kind of standard for long distance bus lines here in Argentina. Thanks again for reviewing trains of our country man!
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Sometimes it is nice to try something different. Very interesting and enjoyable video. Thank you for taking us along with you on your trips. See you next week!
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Sometimes it is nice to try something different. Very interesting and enjoyable video. Thank you for taking us along with you on your trips. See you next week!
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-TimeByFly_WT
when i saw the thumbnail i thought about a steam train with eyes looking weird glued onto it and a nose glued onto it and a table with crack near it
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when i saw the thumbnail i thought about a steam train with eyes looking weird glued onto it and a nose glued onto it and a table with crack near it
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-mukulbajpai6190
I hope the physical work on Bilaspur -Leh line start soon. Ofcourse it would take another decade from then but when ready it would a spectacle.
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I hope the physical work on Bilaspur -Leh line start soon. Ofcourse it would take another decade from then but when ready it would a spectacle.
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The mention of sinks in car reminds me of the common practice on chinese trains. I suspect some of these cars might have come from china? Nice ride.
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The mention of sinks in car reminds me of the common practice on chinese trains. I suspect some of these cars might have come from china? Nice ride.
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-chrisneppiras7951
love the way the south American train routes see-saw up a mountain and they have consist running around points at certain heights.
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love the way the south American train routes see-saw up a mountain and they have consist running around points at certain heights.
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Oui oui, simply railway, I have an idea for you, you should try amtrak's lake shore limited, I've been on that train and it was pretty fun
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Oui oui, simply railway, I have an idea for you, you should try amtrak's lake shore limited, I've been on that train and it was pretty fun
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-SeverityOne
You wouldn't have any more info on those models of the locomotives, right? Even though they are the wrong scale for you.
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You wouldn't have any more info on those models of the locomotives, right? Even though they are the wrong scale for you.
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-SteamboatWilley
I hope they can one day reinstate the train so you can do the full journey on the train and avoid the bus ride.
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I hope they can one day reinstate the train so you can do the full journey on the train and avoid the bus ride.
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-chrisannear9579
I did the trip in 2004 - by train the whole way! I think it took 14 hours - way too long but I'm glad I did it
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I did the trip in 2004 - by train the whole way! I think it took 14 hours - way too long but I'm glad I did it
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-SteamboatWilley
It's good that the seats are arranged in bays of four and line up with the windows, but tables would be nice.
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It's good that the seats are arranged in bays of four and line up with the windows, but tables would be nice.
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-conniepayne591
It's always interesting seeing these scenic parts of the world. Thanks for bringing them and for the video. -
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It's always interesting seeing these scenic parts of the world. Thanks for bringing them and for the video. -
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-Eurobazz
A very nice filmic of the train journeyic. It's a pity though they don't refurbishic the trackic down to Salta.
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A very nice filmic of the train journeyic. It's a pity though they don't refurbishic the trackic down to Salta.
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-skintslots
Well done for using the word 'literally' in the correct way. Many English speakers cannot even do that.
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Well done for using the word 'literally' in the correct way. Many English speakers cannot even do that.
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-kevanhubbard9673
That's about 1100m higher than I've ever been on foot which is the summit of Mt Lebanon at 3090m.
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That's about 1100m higher than I've ever been on foot which is the summit of Mt Lebanon at 3090m.
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-Eurobazz
Attitude (sic) sickness can also be experienced at sea level if you're with the wrong type of humanoid -
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Attitude (sic) sickness can also be experienced at sea level if you're with the wrong type of humanoid -
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