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The Mini-Cabin on the groundbreaking New Nightjet - A night onboard the World Premiere

The Mini-Cabin on the groundbreaking New Nightjet - A night onboard the World Premiere

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Guten Tag and welcome to the World Premiere tour of the brand New #nightjet This very Monday, ÖBB, the Austrian national railway invited me the for World Premiere tour of the new Nightjet across Austria for the #NightjetOnTour - I spent more than 30 hours onboard this ground-breaking train and it was beyond my expectation. This train is about to revolutionize how we travel long distance in Europe. Here's a complete review for you En avant première Many thanks to -unsereOEBB for the invite - TRIP INFORMATION - Date: NOVEMBER 2023 (nobody ever slept in the new Nightjet before) Railway company: ÖBB Nightjet Austria tour: Vienna, St Pölten, Linz, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Bregenz, Klagenfurt, Graz and Vienna Informations: It was also lovely to meet Sebastian from the Youtube channel -EisenbahninODCH
Date: 2024-01-09

Comments and reviews: 35


Mini cabins:
Totally innovative. Privacy for a lower price, meaning I can turn the light on or do some work late without having to sleep at the same time as my neighbours. The window seems a little tiny for my taste. What about the width of the cabin at its narrowest part, between the outer wall and the lockers? Can you turn between sleeping positions (side/belly/back) without feeling stuck? How is the suitable temperature determined if there is no individual climate control?
How bright are the control panel LEDs that remain on all the time (light bulb & red symbol? I would likely need to put a cloth on top to cover those pesky little bright dots that disturb my sleep. Those beeps need to be silenced.
The fact that the bigger suitcases are locked away using cables in a different car brings another thing to remind about - you have to think upfront about being able to lock the zippers as well.
Sleeping car:
Showers for everyone, definitely a huge upgrade. Now, your sleeper tickets guarantees you a way to get clean. If the whole toilet/shower cubicle is a wet room, I wonder how to handle undressing and drying yourself off if you share the compartment with another passenger. Is there a place within the cubicle to put a few items that remain dry during the shower?
Good point because the offer is not consistent on current trains. You can enjoy the shower for sure on Comfortlines as there is a shared shower cubicle at the end of the car. Doppelstock sleepers have no communal showers; only in deluxe compartments. AB33s on Basel-Amsterdam do not have any.
Beds parallel to the tracks can improve comfort in curvy routes - north of Frankfurt towards Hamburg, the stretch between Feldkirch and Salzburg, those send perpendicular couchettes swing head-to-toes like a seesaw.
The seat car:
What a downgrade in comparison to seated compartments. Because two seats are too short to lie across in couch style. Upside is that there is a tray table to get some work done. How bright are the ceiling lights? Are they dimmed or turned off at some point?
This is why I prefer the individual compartments where you can turn the light off by yourself, pull out the curtains, and enjoy the darkness. Even if travelling for a few hours! In big-room cars, everyone is forced to have the big lights on in general, even if all seats are equipped with reading lights that would be sufficient. Sleep masks do not cut it. Some LED lights in recent trains, such as DB Intercity 2, are an eyesore in the late hours, damn too bright. I wonder if it is the case in this car.
Missed opportunities:
1- Propose a shower to couchette passengers!
Do it by reusing the -wet room- toilet/shower combination with the same footprint - just stick a retractable showerhead next to the washbasin. Being able to travel by sleeper train and arrive CLEAN i. e. not smelly - if I head to the office directly, for instance - is a major concern for me. There are stations that receive a lot of sleeper trains and do not have any shower facilities - looking at you Wien Hbf!
Even in sleepers, when a shower is accessible to all, I barely saw passengers taking advantage of it. The wait should not be too long.
2- Put a window for the upper berths too, in sleepers and 4-person couchettes!
I would have enjoyed a stargazer window like on the doppelstock - just incredible to be able to look up when you have a cabin in the upper deck and the top bed. Sure, some may argue that it is useless at night, but looking at the night scenery has something relaxing and part of the experience. This is a lost opportunity, as each passenger (in sleeper) or couple of passengers (in 4-person couchettes) would have independent windows and choices of looking out or keeping it dark.
The lack of direct view through a window from my sleeping position is a turn-off for me, I would make sure I get a lower bunk each time in this situation.

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A superb video allowing the viewer to take it all in and wonder about practical use in long term service. Watch it at least twice.
To me, this confirms how de-humanized as creatures in the natural world we have become. Smartphone dependency syndrome and fiddling with ambient lighting definitely rule and opportunities to access natural daylight seem to have been avoid at great cost except in the absurdly narrow corridors.
Just a few Gorilla Glass hemispheres (with shutters of course for those who hate reality) would be inexpensive and, in the event of a crash, could be released to ensure air flow and light -- if only from the lamps of rescuers.
There is too much emphasis on electricity and plumbing. In a crash or severe system failure these cabin sections would turn into mini-coffins within the mass coffins of smashed and crushed coaches. I wonder how many injuries would be due to flying metal ladders and clever little tables and fittings gouging the flesh.
Note the fashionable angled fittings in the shower areas and how many things swing about. An angular water tap looks nice in 2020s style but combine that with velocity and what do you get?
Further, services to these 'facilities' are fitted into walls, ceilings or raised floors. Where would they end up in a crash and remember that water and electricity do not mix to the advantage of living creatures. Even if pumps cut out in emergencies there is still water in pipes and -- in such a ludicrous metal to glass ratio as this environment and sub-environment -- lights would cease working and water under compression could burst out. OMG, the swipe smart card reader does not work and I am trapped. The cellphone signal is off and my FitBit watch is gasping that oxygen is reducing, CO2 is rising and so is carbon monoxide.
No point in pulling/pushing the red emergency things because the emergency has happened.
You can elaborate for yourselves what happens next -- or does not.
Within the first few minutes of this excellent video I estimated that the carriage corridors are narrower than on vintage German/Austrian sleeper by about 40 cm = insufficient sideways squeezing space and an absolute no go area for anyone obliged to use a wheelchair.
Racks for bicycles but wheelchair users are seemingly verboten. Or forgotten. Or simply ignored.

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I think why they use USB A is for several reason.
1. Controlling how much power the passenger use through the USB Port. Qi Charging use 15W, so I expected the USB A port also Output at 15W Max. Remember several device able use USB C power delivery protocol, which can deliver 100W max. So just for solo cabins, if all neighboring pod use both the USB & Qi charger use, 4 passenger already use 120W alone. Remember, more watt needed, the generator will use more fuel. So by limiting the power output, the operator can save more fuel per trip. This also done in Indonesia, by limiting 60W for each power socket on the seats (each seat had 2 socket at the window area, even the middle seat (which is occupied by 4 person) still only able use 2 socket.
2. USB A cable is still very common cable, as they are very universal, and you can still can get Micro USB & USB C version both this day. And remember, several device still charge using Micro USB, so using USB A is very universal option to adopt.
3. Cheaper & easier to repair, as the USB A port almost cost pennies to make, and to soldered it to the power board was extremely easy. like EXTREMELY EASY, because standard 15W USB A port only use maximum 4 pinout (if USB 3, that need 8 pins, but the power still use only 2 pins. So any broken socket can be replace as easy as like replace any capacitors. While USB C had 12 pins, so it need daughterboard, and at the end, only 4 pins need to be use just for powering, so it was very wasteful.
I think that the reason why the Siemens use USB A port in the cabin at the end. Even some newer train and plane still use USB A as standard charging as well even to this day.

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Ok, not bad, not great as well. The seat car, as you described it very well, is nothing more than your inter cities services out there than for a night service. Even our poor inter cities services here in Portugal seems better than what that carriage actually offers. Maybe those trains do have some stops along the way, especially on the first 2-3 hours of the segment? Otherwise a waste of time. The sleeping capsules are a great evolution, that is for sure. There maybe some air circulation issues, but they feel like great. Decoration wise those trains feel like Virgin Voyages cruise lines, than anything else, not my favorite, but that is subjective. Full color led lighting is just the current trend, nothing against, nothing really that exciting. Hope they solve that control panel noise bug, really, and once those control panels are actually tablets, let them to be usable for your in train entertainment. There seems not be a bar carriage. Nice video and have a wonderful day!
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Seems fairly nice - although I already see some things in need of improvement. for example I cannot figure out a single reason to have the light control panels make sounds. WHY? Also, the numerous bathrooms in every sleeper room seem like a maintenance challege. I cannot imagine having a smelly bathroom my entire trip directly in my room. And that shower head/hose will be broken and dirty very quickly. Things like the sleeper room reading light and the new blinds in mini cabins look very fragile for commercial use. they will be constantly broken. And finally the seat car is just a disappointment. seems like it was designed by people that think everyone will afford to buy a couchette/sleeper for overnight travel. The seats are just an abomination of discomfort with no padding or recline. Though I've noticed the entire train seems to have amazing soundproofing. Overall a nice step in the right direction but at the same time it feels like a step back in some regards.
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One negative point thouguh, is that I got the impression there's less luggage space in the new 4-couchette. At least for the upper bed, there used to be a space above the walkway but now it's just a wall there. It seems the only space for bags is now below the two lower beds, but you really don't want to be climbing up and down and prying near the blanket of people sleeping there. And in my recent travel, the people downstairs had a big bag which didn't fit below the beds so then it had to stand in the middle and I would have had difficulties accessing a bag under their beds. Luckily, the fourth bed was unused this time but it seems I have to buy sleeper rather than couchette in the future to be sure I can bring a reasonably sized backpack.
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Well, its certainly an interesting concept. Reminds me of the mini-hotels in Japan! Not sure I could do the claustrophobic conditions. Not being able to really sit up would kill my back! But then, I ain't young no more! !! It is, indeed, a beautiful train. Can the couchette be taken for just one person? Price adjustments? Was very disappointed to see the lack of space in the individual seats! Almost forces you to the beds for night travel. THe sleeping car accommodations seem to be another story---and a positive one! Reminds me of roomette on Amtrak and a bit larger. Ensuite is wonderful. I assume that these rooms are notably more expensive!
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The mini cabins look awesome but the change from normal seating cabins to standard row seats is a downgrade for me. Espeacially when you are young and or don't wanna spend much money sharing these cabins with others greatly enhances the trip as is foster conversation and you dont bother the whole wagon when you play games or have a long chat. This was always part of the best train experiences for me. Sad to see it gone. And if there where no other passengers in the cabin with you? Jackpot: Now you can extend the seats into a kinda comfy bed platform and actually sleep with up too two companions in a cabin.
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As many others have said, the mini cabin (whether travelling solo or as a couple) is a game changer, especially with that price, and so are the amazing looking sleepers! I hope similar stock is introduced on the Amsterdam-Vienna route soon, unfortunately could not find much information on their rollout plans for other routes. Planning a trip in spring, and so looking forward to what would be my first NightJet experience.
Thank you for the very informative video and can't wait to see what other innovations come for European night trains in the future!

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Are the couchettes reserved only for groups? One of the things I like about taking the night train is being in a couchette with other travelers and making connections with them. Being alone in a mini couchette for the entire journey would not be an upgrade for me. I hope the couchettes are still bookable by single travelers, because otherwise that means they are making it impossible to be in a room with people you don't already know, which would take away one of the aspects that draws me towards this kind of travel.
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I'm happy you reviewed the mini-cabin, thanks! It's innovative and very thoughtfully designed. I'm glad you picked up on the control panel beeping though, that was also my first thought! No idea why they think it needs to beep, hopefully they deactivate this before all the rest of the sets are rolled out.
The other potential problem seems to be lack of luggage room, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out in real-world use.

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The biggest risk to such a concept is crime. Once these have a reputation of having personal items go missing people will go back to flying or driving. Do they stop in central stations and anyone on the platform can get on board? This is already an issue with long distance trains. You want to relax on such a journey. As soon as I'd see someone get on a go looking through all the bins for bottles I'd loose faith in the security.
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This is not revolutionary in any way shape or form.
Why would you pick such an uncomfortable travel when you can go MUCH faster and cheaper with a plane ticket.
I see destination is in major cities so planes cover that, so this is a thing if you need to go to the smaller secondary locations onroute.
Sleep at a hotel comfortably and fresh and leave the second day with a jet versus sleeping in this god awful cramped bunk

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There _are_ extra luggage storage options available for the mini cabins:
There-s a large extra storage space -hidden- underneath the mattress of the lower beds. And, as you shown, there are large secured luggage racks available near the seated train carriage.
I -do- think that OBB should let travellers know about these extra options, for example by putting up a sign in the couchette car.

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looks amazing, but unfortunately for folks like me with a s---a-- wage it is a thing that I can only to watch in videos like this one: / damn, I was happy when I managed to slip an additional trip from Vienna to St. Polten in an ICE and the back trip on a CJX. most RailJet/NightJet trips are way out of my price range, even though they arent exactly expensive. for a western salary, that is: D
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I always dreamed of something like these mini-cabins. and the absence of a solution like this was the reason why I mostly avoided traveling by train at night. in fact, having my little health issues, I very much avoided traveling at longer distances because of the inconvenience and discomfort lately. So let us hope they will become available outside Austria soon.
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That couchette gets me claustrophobic just by watching the video. I guess I take the sleeping car standard cabin. I am not too tall so I never had problems with the bed's length. But I could imagine that the comfort plus can create issues because it is arranged crosswise. The seating car does not look inviting. But who takes that for night travel?
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I'm just wondering how much of these Siemens will adapt to their Venture coaches. You can forget the couchettes because they won't be ADA-compliant. In fact, they are likely to stick to the current Viewliner II floor plan. But I would like to see them adopt many of the in-cabin amenities that were shown.
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WOW! That whole is train is fancy schmancy! Sweet. I guess because it's still new. I LOVE the couchette idea. I guess they took a hint from Japanese capsule hotels. If you want comfort not luxury and just need a little private space to sleep and stretch out. Perfect! This is a wave of the future train.
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Nice video mate -
Does anyone know if those seating accomodations will be sold as Globalprice with allocated seating like now or if they switch to the system of the NJ/IC ZRH-AMS/BER/HAM for instance where you have Bed, Couchette (6/4/private comp) and then some attached IC coaches. -

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What a great overview of the new Nightjet! Any confirmation on what I heard about OBB-s intention to introduce dynamic pricing? For me, I think this would cause me to include price comparison with air travel, where available, if quoted Nightjet fares were too much above average.
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The slide between the two beds is such a bad idea.
Nice for when a friend or loved one sleeps there, but if it's a stranger. that slide isn't going to stop many sounds, you'll have to be quiet, your neighbour better not be snoring.

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I'm not sure about that red dividing door. It's ok if you know your neighbour. But you could wake up and have some stranger looking at you -
Other than that they look great kind of something you'd see in Japan.

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I would prefer the luggage space to be part of the Couchette - mini cabin (understand I would have to put the carry-on on the side) for the cabin to be wider from my hips up and not just shoulders up.
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I hope people in the minicabins can use the leftover seats if they travel for more than just a single sleep. Bing stuck in that coffin while awake seems like no fun at all.
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This reminds me of the old Slumbercoaches that Amtrak had, they were almost all single-person compact roomettes, surprisingly each TINY room had its own toilet and sink!
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Great video! Very thorough!
I wish i could travel on it one day. However it is most unlikely as i live in the US and too broke to travel. Best Wishes!

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Bizarre that the Comfort Plus cabin beds do not face the direction of travel, while in the grade below they do. Somebody made a mistake there, I think. -
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Not impressed after i rewatched the GWR Night Riviera video to be honest.
The mini-cabins do make sense if they are priced low enough, but still.

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Not as claustrophobic as an MRI scanner but still (mind youI'm199 cm tall and weight just over 134 kilos. Other than that very cool!
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This mini cabin is truly horrific. My claustrophobia clicked in just watching this video. It might be a game changer for many, but not me.
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Are you paying attention Amtrak! This is proof that yes you can get trainsets that are more modern and suited to today's travel needs
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An Amtrak Long Distance Coach seat is totally superior to those seats on the night Jet. Love the mini cabin though.
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If you are on the train for 16 hours say, and you have the couchette that you showed at the beginning, do you also get a seat?
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those mini-cabins don't seem that comfortable, what a diaster to get in and to get rid of your luggage. not my cup of tea.
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