Why People Are Freaking Out On Gillette, Netflix Price Hike, Huge Youtube Change, Brexit Fail & More
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Date: 2019-11-01
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Jessica Stamos
I know its not the same as the ads for womens products because people keep saying what if there was an ad about stereotypical things women do and tell them to be better which does make sense. But if you look at womens ads that try to change behavior I do think they are stereotyping in a different way. Theres so many about boosting women up, increasing self confidence, telling them to be the best they can be. I've found these generalize in a different way- assuming all women have issues with insecurity, or need to be stronger and I will admit I find that frustrating and sometimes counterproductive (portraying us as weak and needing to be stronger. So I feel this is just the opposite version of that and it can be counterproductive in a different way. The difference is in our world today men have been getting heat for their actions (at least what is being portrayed, especially treatment of women. So when that is what is being generalized it is seen as an attack on men and assuming all of them are terrible which is why so many men are offended. Its a difficult issue to tackle- because as much as there are so many great men out there who dont participate in bad behavior that doesnt mean theres not an issue- yet whenever it is addressed it is met with defensiveness from men because they feel attacked by it. SO overall I do think there were parts of this that were way oversimplified, and it was not the smartest idea, but also I think the main point is somewhat proven by the reaction- that men should strive to be the best and most importantly hold other men accountable. This was met by immediate defense- thats a minority of men- not me but the point is that although it may not be you theres a good chance someone you know has even in the smallest of ways contributed to this issue- and if you think youre such a good man dont stand by and be silent about it.
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I know its not the same as the ads for womens products because people keep saying what if there was an ad about stereotypical things women do and tell them to be better which does make sense. But if you look at womens ads that try to change behavior I do think they are stereotyping in a different way. Theres so many about boosting women up, increasing self confidence, telling them to be the best they can be. I've found these generalize in a different way- assuming all women have issues with insecurity, or need to be stronger and I will admit I find that frustrating and sometimes counterproductive (portraying us as weak and needing to be stronger. So I feel this is just the opposite version of that and it can be counterproductive in a different way. The difference is in our world today men have been getting heat for their actions (at least what is being portrayed, especially treatment of women. So when that is what is being generalized it is seen as an attack on men and assuming all of them are terrible which is why so many men are offended. Its a difficult issue to tackle- because as much as there are so many great men out there who dont participate in bad behavior that doesnt mean theres not an issue- yet whenever it is addressed it is met with defensiveness from men because they feel attacked by it. SO overall I do think there were parts of this that were way oversimplified, and it was not the smartest idea, but also I think the main point is somewhat proven by the reaction- that men should strive to be the best and most importantly hold other men accountable. This was met by immediate defense- thats a minority of men- not me but the point is that although it may not be you theres a good chance someone you know has even in the smallest of ways contributed to this issue- and if you think youre such a good man dont stand by and be silent about it.
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Mina Specht
I used to work for Netflix at their call center when they did the first price increase for their subscription plans. The company was expecting a lot of calls so they made sure to provide the agents fielding them with information on why and I felt much better knowing the reasons so I'll share them with you here. 1) As streaming began forcing DVD's out of the market Netflix began to lose income from their DVD plans (which is how Netflix started and which is inherently more costly of a plan. Netflix officially decides around 2013 to phase out their DVD plans which meant they had to make up that income as well as entice more people to join streaming. Therefore, they raised the prices. 2) At this time Netflix Originals were still new and only included shows, not movies. So in order to expand the Netflix Originals selection to more shows and include movies while also maintaining quality, they needed more money, therefore they raised the price. This in turn also allowed them to purchase bigger box office movies and acquire them faster. For context, in the summer of 2014 Netflix had only just announced it's planning for the Marvel Defender's series which would include 4 shows that would lead to a series involving each of the leads from said shows. They only had character art and 2 leads narrowed to a few actors. The price increase which was only a dollar or so to consumers allowed them to create Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil, AND The Defenders.
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I used to work for Netflix at their call center when they did the first price increase for their subscription plans. The company was expecting a lot of calls so they made sure to provide the agents fielding them with information on why and I felt much better knowing the reasons so I'll share them with you here. 1) As streaming began forcing DVD's out of the market Netflix began to lose income from their DVD plans (which is how Netflix started and which is inherently more costly of a plan. Netflix officially decides around 2013 to phase out their DVD plans which meant they had to make up that income as well as entice more people to join streaming. Therefore, they raised the prices. 2) At this time Netflix Originals were still new and only included shows, not movies. So in order to expand the Netflix Originals selection to more shows and include movies while also maintaining quality, they needed more money, therefore they raised the price. This in turn also allowed them to purchase bigger box office movies and acquire them faster. For context, in the summer of 2014 Netflix had only just announced it's planning for the Marvel Defender's series which would include 4 shows that would lead to a series involving each of the leads from said shows. They only had character art and 2 leads narrowed to a few actors. The price increase which was only a dollar or so to consumers allowed them to create Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil, AND The Defenders.
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E Baker
Regarding Brexit I am frustrated as hell. At this stage I could care less if we leave or stay, but can we please have SOME kind of development. That being said I appreciate that it is not an easy situation. I voted to stay and while I can see the merit in a second referendum since both sides did what they could to confuse and misrepresent (lie) about aspects of staying or leaving, I also think it's a problem. Say a second vote were to happen and the decision would be inverted. The people who voted to leave would feel cheated and would always remind people that the only reason they lost is that we got a second vote and that the original vote should have been respected more than the second. Furthermore, it creates a situation where any democratically reached decision can be overturned. If it's so easy to change the outcome then the outcome itself becomes meaningless. I'm not saying I want to leave the EU. Hell no, I'd celebrate a revote that resulted in a remain victory. but it would come at a cost and with its own problems. and in a world where apparently saying you support Britain in the EU has you branded a traitor in the court of (right wing) public opinion, that's quite a concerning thought.
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Regarding Brexit I am frustrated as hell. At this stage I could care less if we leave or stay, but can we please have SOME kind of development. That being said I appreciate that it is not an easy situation. I voted to stay and while I can see the merit in a second referendum since both sides did what they could to confuse and misrepresent (lie) about aspects of staying or leaving, I also think it's a problem. Say a second vote were to happen and the decision would be inverted. The people who voted to leave would feel cheated and would always remind people that the only reason they lost is that we got a second vote and that the original vote should have been respected more than the second. Furthermore, it creates a situation where any democratically reached decision can be overturned. If it's so easy to change the outcome then the outcome itself becomes meaningless. I'm not saying I want to leave the EU. Hell no, I'd celebrate a revote that resulted in a remain victory. but it would come at a cost and with its own problems. and in a world where apparently saying you support Britain in the EU has you branded a traitor in the court of (right wing) public opinion, that's quite a concerning thought.
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43bikeguy
Phil you wont read this but your approach to complex stories is too simple. In your efforts to be balanced you give the impression that both sides have equal weight. The Chechen story is an example where you felt it important to give your own view but that was within a video that covered two sides of the Gillette coverage and Brexit. Balance is hard to achieve with some stories but because your items/videos generally have two sides so it gives the impression that both sides views are equally valid and with some stories, especially complex ones like Wars there just arent two sides and on some occasions one side is wrong eg. ISIS, Paedophilia, child soldiers, the summary execution of minorities just for their beliefs ie Muslims in China. You should make these stories as separate items, do a deeper dive. Your show is too short to do justice to these stories and there is no balance needed but a story that needs to be shared.
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Phil you wont read this but your approach to complex stories is too simple. In your efforts to be balanced you give the impression that both sides have equal weight. The Chechen story is an example where you felt it important to give your own view but that was within a video that covered two sides of the Gillette coverage and Brexit. Balance is hard to achieve with some stories but because your items/videos generally have two sides so it gives the impression that both sides views are equally valid and with some stories, especially complex ones like Wars there just arent two sides and on some occasions one side is wrong eg. ISIS, Paedophilia, child soldiers, the summary execution of minorities just for their beliefs ie Muslims in China. You should make these stories as separate items, do a deeper dive. Your show is too short to do justice to these stories and there is no balance needed but a story that needs to be shared.
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Chris somthing
I've never had a problem with commenting boys will be boys. Men boys guys we are different. We like to roughhouse make fart jokes and like trucks and guns, and yes it's a stereotype but it still hits close to home for the majority of men boys or guys that I have ever seen or been around. And this is coming from a guy whose favorite movie is 500 days of Summer and can't get enough of twilight ( still team Edward, fight me on it, but I'm still the first to make a dick joke or make the comment that's what she said. To justify inappropriate behavior by saying boys will be boys obviously is wrong but to say that about kids rough housing it's just absurd. Kids needs to test their limit and that's what a parent is there for is to correct the behavior when it's gone too far. Even criminal men who are in prison for murder have a morality system where rape is still bad.
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I've never had a problem with commenting boys will be boys. Men boys guys we are different. We like to roughhouse make fart jokes and like trucks and guns, and yes it's a stereotype but it still hits close to home for the majority of men boys or guys that I have ever seen or been around. And this is coming from a guy whose favorite movie is 500 days of Summer and can't get enough of twilight ( still team Edward, fight me on it, but I'm still the first to make a dick joke or make the comment that's what she said. To justify inappropriate behavior by saying boys will be boys obviously is wrong but to say that about kids rough housing it's just absurd. Kids needs to test their limit and that's what a parent is there for is to correct the behavior when it's gone too far. Even criminal men who are in prison for murder have a morality system where rape is still bad.
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Martin
Allowing companies to deliberately attempt to be misunderstood to support something that shouldn't be supported isn't something we as a society should let them get away with, regardless of intention or what has actually been said. It will make more companies do the same and they'll pushing the boundaries further if it's profitable, making them capitalize on causing misery in the world. Women shouldn't be treated like children that need protection from other men, men shouldn't have a magnifying glass on them whether whatever behaviour they exhibit is wrong or not because it's subjective, children wrestling should be fine, men do actually NEED to initiate conversations to get a relationship. Them giving out the wrong message also makes the ad just morally wrong.
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Allowing companies to deliberately attempt to be misunderstood to support something that shouldn't be supported isn't something we as a society should let them get away with, regardless of intention or what has actually been said. It will make more companies do the same and they'll pushing the boundaries further if it's profitable, making them capitalize on causing misery in the world. Women shouldn't be treated like children that need protection from other men, men shouldn't have a magnifying glass on them whether whatever behaviour they exhibit is wrong or not because it's subjective, children wrestling should be fine, men do actually NEED to initiate conversations to get a relationship. Them giving out the wrong message also makes the ad just morally wrong.
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markponicki
Netflix is overpriced and has been for a while. Im not paying more and more money for them to have less and less content Im interested in. Theyve basically become B-movies, weird shit from all over the world, and their original content and nothing else. Anything coming out in theaters or on tv you pretty much have to find elsewhere. If Netflix wants to essentially become its own entertainment network but charge more and more money for it-then just like every cable networks streaming service, Im ignoring that shit. With CBS, FX, Disney, HBO, and more wanting people to buy into their streaming services-Netflix has too much competition to essentially be doing the same thing all those others are: heavily promoting their own content and excluding all others.
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Netflix is overpriced and has been for a while. Im not paying more and more money for them to have less and less content Im interested in. Theyve basically become B-movies, weird shit from all over the world, and their original content and nothing else. Anything coming out in theaters or on tv you pretty much have to find elsewhere. If Netflix wants to essentially become its own entertainment network but charge more and more money for it-then just like every cable networks streaming service, Im ignoring that shit. With CBS, FX, Disney, HBO, and more wanting people to buy into their streaming services-Netflix has too much competition to essentially be doing the same thing all those others are: heavily promoting their own content and excluding all others.
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Brad Barkhouse
After much reflection on my own contempt for this ad, I think I see another major distinction between this ad targeting men, and others which have targeted women. For ads involving criticism, something nobody seems to be mentioning is this: The ads for women focus on appearance and body shaming. (That's certainly bad enough)The Gillette ad for men focuses on moralistic behaviour. That in my opinion, is how this ad differs from others which came before it. Criticize any group of people for their morals, and conflate them ambiguously with what is a welcome and supported movement (MeToo, and is it really any surprise many men reacted this way? To simply state that anyone who objects must be part of the problem, seems to be missing this point.
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After much reflection on my own contempt for this ad, I think I see another major distinction between this ad targeting men, and others which have targeted women. For ads involving criticism, something nobody seems to be mentioning is this: The ads for women focus on appearance and body shaming. (That's certainly bad enough)The Gillette ad for men focuses on moralistic behaviour. That in my opinion, is how this ad differs from others which came before it. Criticize any group of people for their morals, and conflate them ambiguously with what is a welcome and supported movement (MeToo, and is it really any surprise many men reacted this way? To simply state that anyone who objects must be part of the problem, seems to be missing this point.
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DJFlare84
Phil I usually appreciate the fact that you ride the fence to avoid getting too opinionated or pissing anybody off. It's a pretty effective way to at least SOUND unbiased and I appreciate that. But by sitting the fence on this Gilette thing you actually come across as biased in favor of Gilette and that tells me shockingly terrible things about you. You wave off what they did as mere woke-a-nomics but woke-a-nomics IN AND OF ITSELF is incredibly toxic. In the Gilette ad you can clearly see that it's painting an implication that men AS A WHOLE are in some way responsible for toxic masculinity. We are not a monolith, Philly D. Group Responsibility is the REAL toxic idea and you've finally shown me what side you're REALLY on in the culture war.
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Phil I usually appreciate the fact that you ride the fence to avoid getting too opinionated or pissing anybody off. It's a pretty effective way to at least SOUND unbiased and I appreciate that. But by sitting the fence on this Gilette thing you actually come across as biased in favor of Gilette and that tells me shockingly terrible things about you. You wave off what they did as mere woke-a-nomics but woke-a-nomics IN AND OF ITSELF is incredibly toxic. In the Gilette ad you can clearly see that it's painting an implication that men AS A WHOLE are in some way responsible for toxic masculinity. We are not a monolith, Philly D. Group Responsibility is the REAL toxic idea and you've finally shown me what side you're REALLY on in the culture war.
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