The Real Macbeth
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Date: 2022-09-10
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Brian
The kingship did not pass father-to-son in Alba/Scotland though it did stay in one family; I think it's called tanistry and it was very rare to have the throne go directly from a father to his son - it usually went to a brother or cousin then came back to the son and then back to the brother or cousin's son. It happened so fast though as the reigns tended to be measured in years, not decades. It was with David I that primogeniture was adopted. MacBeth was Duncan's first-cousin as they descended from brothers Bethoc and Findleach, sons of Malcolm II. The earls, or mormaers of Orkney, were related as well as Malcolm II's daughter Olith married Sigurd Hlodvirsson, Mormaer of Orkney.
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The kingship did not pass father-to-son in Alba/Scotland though it did stay in one family; I think it's called tanistry and it was very rare to have the throne go directly from a father to his son - it usually went to a brother or cousin then came back to the son and then back to the brother or cousin's son. It happened so fast though as the reigns tended to be measured in years, not decades. It was with David I that primogeniture was adopted. MacBeth was Duncan's first-cousin as they descended from brothers Bethoc and Findleach, sons of Malcolm II. The earls, or mormaers of Orkney, were related as well as Malcolm II's daughter Olith married Sigurd Hlodvirsson, Mormaer of Orkney.
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NJ
An interesting history, to say the least. Especially considering how Macbeth and Duncan were considerably inverted in the Shakespeare play. Duncan was the old, wise, noble king in the play, while in history, Duncan was described as a young, inept king who was allegedly power-hungry and made a fatal mistake in war: fighting on two fronts. The real Macbeth did kill Duncan, but in battle, and did die by Malcolm. However, the real Macbeth had a relatively long and stable reign, even making a pilgrimage to Rome, as opposed to Shakespeare's Macbeth who had a short, tumultuous reign.
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An interesting history, to say the least. Especially considering how Macbeth and Duncan were considerably inverted in the Shakespeare play. Duncan was the old, wise, noble king in the play, while in history, Duncan was described as a young, inept king who was allegedly power-hungry and made a fatal mistake in war: fighting on two fronts. The real Macbeth did kill Duncan, but in battle, and did die by Malcolm. However, the real Macbeth had a relatively long and stable reign, even making a pilgrimage to Rome, as opposed to Shakespeare's Macbeth who had a short, tumultuous reign.
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ArchEnema
MacBethad is only a villain due the work of the Tudor propagandist-in-chief, old Squigglysticks. In reality, he had an equal right to the throne under a succession tradition that specifically excluded primogeniture, and saved the kingdom from an incompetent ruler at the head of a corrupt dynasty, much as Edward IV was later to do with Henry VI. On another level, it was just two Picts fighting over the throne of Scotland, so from a Dal Riadan perspective, one was as good as the other, or as bad.
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MacBethad is only a villain due the work of the Tudor propagandist-in-chief, old Squigglysticks. In reality, he had an equal right to the throne under a succession tradition that specifically excluded primogeniture, and saved the kingdom from an incompetent ruler at the head of a corrupt dynasty, much as Edward IV was later to do with Henry VI. On another level, it was just two Picts fighting over the throne of Scotland, so from a Dal Riadan perspective, one was as good as the other, or as bad.
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Foefaller
If you wonder about the logic of making Macbeth a bad guy in Shakespeare, in 1606 James I, the descendant of King Duncan, was the King of England at the time. Wouldn't do well to do a play where the man who killed your king's ancestor to take his throne was anything other than a terrible person.
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If you wonder about the logic of making Macbeth a bad guy in Shakespeare, in 1606 James I, the descendant of King Duncan, was the King of England at the time. Wouldn't do well to do a play where the man who killed your king's ancestor to take his throne was anything other than a terrible person.
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eric
You know I've known for years that McBeth was inspired by a real man, but I'd never looked further into it. The fact he was Gaelic makes me extremely happy! My Celtic, Garlic, Arvernii ancestors would be happy to know their blood runs strong in their descendants
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You know I've known for years that McBeth was inspired by a real man, but I'd never looked further into it. The fact he was Gaelic makes me extremely happy! My Celtic, Garlic, Arvernii ancestors would be happy to know their blood runs strong in their descendants
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Magus
For the truer story of Macbeth, watch Disney's Gargoyles City of Stone episodes. Really. Sure, he still wins the throne with the help of witches, not to mention a clan of Gargoyles that even Shakespeare didn't touch on, other then that it's relatively accurate.
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For the truer story of Macbeth, watch Disney's Gargoyles City of Stone episodes. Really. Sure, he still wins the throne with the help of witches, not to mention a clan of Gargoyles that even Shakespeare didn't touch on, other then that it's relatively accurate.
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Brenda
Thanks for filling me in on more history of Scotland. Proud of my English/Irish/Scottish-American heritage on my maternal side, the McGaffey/McAfie clan from Aberdeen. Came here in 1721 landed in Portsmouth, NH, one wounded at the Battle of Bunker Hill.
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Thanks for filling me in on more history of Scotland. Proud of my English/Irish/Scottish-American heritage on my maternal side, the McGaffey/McAfie clan from Aberdeen. Came here in 1721 landed in Portsmouth, NH, one wounded at the Battle of Bunker Hill.
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education
Thanks for making this! I honestly thought it was just a story hed made up. Im from the UK but Ive never heard of the real Macbeth! I think us from the UK should learn more about our countrys history then we learn at school!
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Thanks for making this! I honestly thought it was just a story hed made up. Im from the UK but Ive never heard of the real Macbeth! I think us from the UK should learn more about our countrys history then we learn at school!
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Daniel
What a pity Connery never tried Macbeth! He'd have been the best in history. But maybe he avoided it because he thought it was expected, and he wanted to do something else.
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What a pity Connery never tried Macbeth! He'd have been the best in history. But maybe he avoided it because he thought it was expected, and he wanted to do something else.
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education
Hey mate I love this videos! thank you so much!
I was wondering if you will be making any videos on the Irish and there Kings? thank you again.
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Hey mate I love this videos! thank you so much!
I was wondering if you will be making any videos on the Irish and there Kings? thank you again.
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Tha
Where do you think Shakespeare got his research from? Ties into the question of whether or not he really wrote his famed plays.
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Where do you think Shakespeare got his research from? Ties into the question of whether or not he really wrote his famed plays.
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Ice
However, Shakespeare's Macbeth is based on the Holinshed's Chronicles (published in 1577) and is not historically accurate.
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However, Shakespeare's Macbeth is based on the Holinshed's Chronicles (published in 1577) and is not historically accurate.
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nole
So Shakespeares version of MacBeth was total BS. Uh, so why is Shakespeare such a legend then if his work is based on BS?
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So Shakespeares version of MacBeth was total BS. Uh, so why is Shakespeare such a legend then if his work is based on BS?
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Allen
Right, it's been bugging me for a while, it's pronounced MURay (like the name Murray) even though it's spelled MOray.
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Right, it's been bugging me for a while, it's pronounced MURay (like the name Murray) even though it's spelled MOray.
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Kim
As a major fan of Shakespear this was such a treat. I sure would like to see you take on Owen Glendower. thanks again.
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As a major fan of Shakespear this was such a treat. I sure would like to see you take on Owen Glendower. thanks again.
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Celt
This is why I like gargoyles MacBeth, he was more like he real MacBeth, especially in the episodes showing his reign
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This is why I like gargoyles MacBeth, he was more like he real MacBeth, especially in the episodes showing his reign
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Mathieu
Please say the Scottish play and not. Macbeth
Gaaah! Hot Potatoes Orchestra Stall Puck will make Amends! Ouch!
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Please say the Scottish play and not. Macbeth
Gaaah! Hot Potatoes Orchestra Stall Puck will make Amends! Ouch!
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susan
Didnt hurt Malcolm that he married the daughter of Edward the Confessor. Saint Margaret, Queen of Scotland.
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Didnt hurt Malcolm that he married the daughter of Edward the Confessor. Saint Margaret, Queen of Scotland.
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Madman
Hey, do you mind if I use the information in your video for a school project? I will give you credit.
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Hey, do you mind if I use the information in your video for a school project? I will give you credit.
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