Why did communist Grenada keep the Queen? Documentary
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Date: 2022-07-19
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Ruralor
We have a funny quote from King Haakon VII of Norway. In 1928 there was a parliamentary crisis, the liberal and the conservative parties couldn't agree, so King Haakon had to go to the third biggest faction, the labour party, and ask them to form a government. Which is common parliamentary practice. However, the labour party at that time was pretty radical, they wanted to abolish the monarchy, impose a planned economy, and so on. King Haakon was asked how he could appoint such a government, whereby King Haakon fameously replied: I'm also king of the communists!
The government lasted 18 days. By then the liberals and the conservatives had agreed, and the first socialist government fell on a vote of confidence. The labour party came back into power in 1935, but by then they had pretty much reformed into a social-democratic party.
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We have a funny quote from King Haakon VII of Norway. In 1928 there was a parliamentary crisis, the liberal and the conservative parties couldn't agree, so King Haakon had to go to the third biggest faction, the labour party, and ask them to form a government. Which is common parliamentary practice. However, the labour party at that time was pretty radical, they wanted to abolish the monarchy, impose a planned economy, and so on. King Haakon was asked how he could appoint such a government, whereby King Haakon fameously replied: I'm also king of the communists!
The government lasted 18 days. By then the liberals and the conservatives had agreed, and the first socialist government fell on a vote of confidence. The labour party came back into power in 1935, but by then they had pretty much reformed into a social-democratic party.
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Scott
I'm afraid this video totally ignored several key fun facts. The military junta imprisoned several dozen American citizens who were studying medicine in Grenada at the time. They were also building a runway to accommodate Soviet heavy bombers and cargo planes. When U. S. reporters came to try getting negative comments from Grenada citizens, all they could find were public celebrations and people praising Reagan and the American invasion. The truth hurts, at least in terms of American news media trying to bend the truth to their agenda.
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I'm afraid this video totally ignored several key fun facts. The military junta imprisoned several dozen American citizens who were studying medicine in Grenada at the time. They were also building a runway to accommodate Soviet heavy bombers and cargo planes. When U. S. reporters came to try getting negative comments from Grenada citizens, all they could find were public celebrations and people praising Reagan and the American invasion. The truth hurts, at least in terms of American news media trying to bend the truth to their agenda.
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uncletigger
The corollary statement Why did Her Majesty agree to continue as the Head of State when they embraced Communism, however, is NOT confusing.
She is The Queen, not because She didn't have anything better to do, but because She understands Her DUTY.
And regardless of how your have chosen to phrase the events, and CERTAINLY AND ABSOLUTELY REGARDLESS OF M. THATCHERS' OPINION, The Queen can't refuse to be The Queen of one of Her Nations.
She IS THE QUEEN there until the people say otherwise.
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The corollary statement Why did Her Majesty agree to continue as the Head of State when they embraced Communism, however, is NOT confusing.
She is The Queen, not because She didn't have anything better to do, but because She understands Her DUTY.
And regardless of how your have chosen to phrase the events, and CERTAINLY AND ABSOLUTELY REGARDLESS OF M. THATCHERS' OPINION, The Queen can't refuse to be The Queen of one of Her Nations.
She IS THE QUEEN there until the people say otherwise.
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Rimfire
Hmm, Communist Monarchism. That is more or less a description of North Korea however it does make one think.
What if a Socialist Government Kept the Monarchy around as a Puppet. A relationship similar to the Emperor and Shogun's of Feudal Japan. One a Figurehead/fall guy the other an active Dictator.
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Hmm, Communist Monarchism. That is more or less a description of North Korea however it does make one think.
What if a Socialist Government Kept the Monarchy around as a Puppet. A relationship similar to the Emperor and Shogun's of Feudal Japan. One a Figurehead/fall guy the other an active Dictator.
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USOV
Well, Granada realized there isn't all that much of a difference between monarchy and most communist regimes: power is concentrated in the hands of very few people, there's a central all powerful leader figure, few or no individual rights, people starve, etc.
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Well, Granada realized there isn't all that much of a difference between monarchy and most communist regimes: power is concentrated in the hands of very few people, there's a central all powerful leader figure, few or no individual rights, people starve, etc.
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education
How can I be a communist nation if there was never legitimate majority-rule? If the elections were under threat of force those aren't legitimate elections which nullifies claims to communism.
Chaos =/= communism.
Majority-rule = communism.
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How can I be a communist nation if there was never legitimate majority-rule? If the elections were under threat of force those aren't legitimate elections which nullifies claims to communism.
Chaos =/= communism.
Majority-rule = communism.
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Jostein
Reminds me of a well known quote from King Haakon of Norway when he was called out for pointing to the Labour Party to form a government in 1928 (while they were still 'revolutionary'): I am also the King of the Communists,
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Reminds me of a well known quote from King Haakon of Norway when he was called out for pointing to the Labour Party to form a government in 1928 (while they were still 'revolutionary'): I am also the King of the Communists,
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education
My older brother participated in the invasion. He said the Cuban soldiers were pathetic. Poorly trained, zero motivation. Most of the ones he ran into either put up brief token resistance or just gave up on the spot.
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My older brother participated in the invasion. He said the Cuban soldiers were pathetic. Poorly trained, zero motivation. Most of the ones he ran into either put up brief token resistance or just gave up on the spot.
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Sugen
And they destroyed this airport in Grenada.
_And the Jehovah's shitnesses claim to have brought 3 tonnes of food and landed on the destroyed airfield while there is no recording of this landing of any tower_
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And they destroyed this airport in Grenada.
_And the Jehovah's shitnesses claim to have brought 3 tonnes of food and landed on the destroyed airfield while there is no recording of this landing of any tower_
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LegoLife
British Colony: we want independence, get out and never come back.
Former British Colonial Subjects: one ticket to Britain/Australia/New Zealand/Canada, please.
It's like they are deeply confused.
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British Colony: we want independence, get out and never come back.
Former British Colonial Subjects: one ticket to Britain/Australia/New Zealand/Canada, please.
It's like they are deeply confused.
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thedwightguy
BEING raised in the USA but born in Canada, I think Canada should just adopt ALL the Commonwelath countries in the new world and we'd have the USA SURROUNDED. AND Quebec can adopt Haiti.
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BEING raised in the USA but born in Canada, I think Canada should just adopt ALL the Commonwelath countries in the new world and we'd have the USA SURROUNDED. AND Quebec can adopt Haiti.
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Brian
Grenada having a communist monarchy seems weird until you get to Cambodia where the monarch led a communist revolution, and even more weird was that it was the Chinese who supported him
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Grenada having a communist monarchy seems weird until you get to Cambodia where the monarch led a communist revolution, and even more weird was that it was the Chinese who supported him
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Bearberry
One of the ways the khmer rouge increased their support from the cambodian public was their promise to reinstate the popular former king sihanouk as head of state
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One of the ways the khmer rouge increased their support from the cambodian public was their promise to reinstate the popular former king sihanouk as head of state
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Graf
Because of the jewel movement, Greneda is the only communist country that had a communist revolution against the communist (technically socialist) government. Damn.
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Because of the jewel movement, Greneda is the only communist country that had a communist revolution against the communist (technically socialist) government. Damn.
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SaanMigwell
Oh oh please tell us who the patrons are. I hope you get like 1, 000. I'm looking forward to a quick history video followed by 5 minutes of name barfing.
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Oh oh please tell us who the patrons are. I hope you get like 1, 000. I'm looking forward to a quick history video followed by 5 minutes of name barfing.
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ckl
Another good example of where having an arbitrary constitutional monarchy stabilised the country and stopped it from devolving into a decades long bloodbath.
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Another good example of where having an arbitrary constitutional monarchy stabilised the country and stopped it from devolving into a decades long bloodbath.
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flubba999
This was really difficult to listen to, as you kept mispronouncing the country's name.
Its pronounced Gre-nay-da and not Gre-nah-da.
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This was really difficult to listen to, as you kept mispronouncing the country's name.
Its pronounced Gre-nay-da and not Gre-nah-da.
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EdgyShooter
To be fair, it's not a bad plan. It delays an immediate invasion as technically it's still a functioning commonwealth country
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To be fair, it's not a bad plan. It delays an immediate invasion as technically it's still a functioning commonwealth country
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Gamercat
Weirdly, Cambodia is in a similar situation to this day, it is officially a kingdom but is de facto a one party communist state.
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Weirdly, Cambodia is in a similar situation to this day, it is officially a kingdom but is de facto a one party communist state.
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leonardo
Chile shown as a comunist gov. in 1983 when it had already been 10 years under dictatorship by Maggie's friend Pinochet.
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Chile shown as a comunist gov. in 1983 when it had already been 10 years under dictatorship by Maggie's friend Pinochet.
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