2 Airplanes Almost Collided at 37, 000 Feet. Here's What Happened Next
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Date: 2023-12-14
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-elixer88
This is why commercial pilots should ALWAYS listen to TCAS over ATC. They can decline ATC commands saying -TCAS says this so I'm doing this- and receive no punishments.
That is rough for the trainee (and their supervisor too I guess) though, but with over 600 souls put in SERIOUS danger due to their mistakes, the jailtime was likely more of a -social view- sorta thing. People are already afraid of flying, and an incident like this wouldn't help.
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This is why commercial pilots should ALWAYS listen to TCAS over ATC. They can decline ATC commands saying -TCAS says this so I'm doing this- and receive no punishments.
That is rough for the trainee (and their supervisor too I guess) though, but with over 600 souls put in SERIOUS danger due to their mistakes, the jailtime was likely more of a -social view- sorta thing. People are already afraid of flying, and an incident like this wouldn't help.
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-cchanc3
23 year atcs. there is too much of the story not told for me to put all the pieces together from this video. but I do have one objection. the controller and the supervisor made human mistakes, while the pilot broke a rule of tcas. i. e. when atcs and tcas give conflicting orders, the rule is to ALWAYS do what tcas says. why is he not in jail? his was the real -crime-
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23 year atcs. there is too much of the story not told for me to put all the pieces together from this video. but I do have one objection. the controller and the supervisor made human mistakes, while the pilot broke a rule of tcas. i. e. when atcs and tcas give conflicting orders, the rule is to ALWAYS do what tcas says. why is he not in jail? his was the real -crime-
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-analoguegeek
holy shit they ended up going to Japanese prison?
Okay, for you guys who dont know. Japanese prison might be the most effective near-starvation diet you'll get in the developed world. one bowl of rice a day. Rice and water. Thats all you get.
And. while yeah, they probably should have lost their jobs for this. jailtime is HARSH.
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holy shit they ended up going to Japanese prison?
Okay, for you guys who dont know. Japanese prison might be the most effective near-starvation diet you'll get in the developed world. one bowl of rice a day. Rice and water. Thats all you get.
And. while yeah, they probably should have lost their jobs for this. jailtime is HARSH.
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-freddytang2128
Why did that trainee go to jail for a year? I understand this was an innocent mistakes? People make mistakes happen all the time, especially when they're new to the job. I would blame the management of the organization for letting trainees make life and death decisions without proper supervision
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Why did that trainee go to jail for a year? I understand this was an innocent mistakes? People make mistakes happen all the time, especially when they're new to the job. I would blame the management of the organization for letting trainees make life and death decisions without proper supervision
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-onekgguy
It makes no sense why the controller would think he needed more than the standard 2000 feet of separation. 2000 feet works really well even in turbulent conditions other than severe. Controllers aren't supposed to countermand TCAS - just let it do its thing and issue traffic calls to the pilots.
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It makes no sense why the controller would think he needed more than the standard 2000 feet of separation. 2000 feet works really well even in turbulent conditions other than severe. Controllers aren't supposed to countermand TCAS - just let it do its thing and issue traffic calls to the pilots.
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-kholomokolo
I will never understand why people like milling around a plane for a short 2 hour flight. I always keep my belt strapped for the entirety of the flight, because anything can happen at anytime. I have no desire to leave my lipstick mark on the overhead bin. Well if wore lipstick
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I will never understand why people like milling around a plane for a short 2 hour flight. I always keep my belt strapped for the entirety of the flight, because anything can happen at anytime. I have no desire to leave my lipstick mark on the overhead bin. Well if wore lipstick
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-Mike-mi7vn
Imagine being a fresh trainee making a mistake (a huge mistake but a human mistake non the less) being tossed in prison for a year and losing your career having to start a new one from scratch that-s messed up. It didn-t help the manager didn-t do their job that well either.
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Imagine being a fresh trainee making a mistake (a huge mistake but a human mistake non the less) being tossed in prison for a year and losing your career having to start a new one from scratch that-s messed up. It didn-t help the manager didn-t do their job that well either.
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-bobby1970
Planes should be flown completely by onboard computers at all times. I would trust computers much more than I would humans. Humans get tired, sleepy, confused and the like. A human pilot should still be on board to overide the computers if absolutely necessary.
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Planes should be flown completely by onboard computers at all times. I would trust computers much more than I would humans. Humans get tired, sleepy, confused and the like. A human pilot should still be on board to overide the computers if absolutely necessary.
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-legitx5207
This story reminds me of a very similar story. When I was on a flight from Bangalore to New Delhi I witnessed the same. I was on a Indigo and when we were around 28, 000 ft high another Indigo flew right below us [20-25 mtrs below ]. It was horrific to see.
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This story reminds me of a very similar story. When I was on a flight from Bangalore to New Delhi I witnessed the same. I was on a Indigo and when we were around 28, 000 ft high another Indigo flew right below us [20-25 mtrs below ]. It was horrific to see.
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-Quantum-1157
We have 26 year old trainees handling 12 flights at a time with thousands of passengers on board flying at 800km/hr? - as someone in age area, do u even know what goes on in the mind of a 26 yea old in the 21st century? -
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We have 26 year old trainees handling 12 flights at a time with thousands of passengers on board flying at 800km/hr? - as someone in age area, do u even know what goes on in the mind of a 26 yea old in the 21st century? -
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-drizztdourden6666
The haters of the proof is out there are jealous since they know nothing, are obviously always wrong on everything & they are triggered that experts debunk the nonsense they find here every week, these are facts.
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The haters of the proof is out there are jealous since they know nothing, are obviously always wrong on everything & they are triggered that experts debunk the nonsense they find here every week, these are facts.
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reallifelore
I started this video and he said ''There are thousands of planes flying right now when I am watching this video'' at the exact time I heard a noise of a plane flying somewhere above my house
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I started this video and he said ''There are thousands of planes flying right now when I am watching this video'' at the exact time I heard a noise of a plane flying somewhere above my house
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-valimpacted
Okay but, why are so many people un buckled? Every time I go on a plane people only unbuckle for the washroom, and even so people rarely do now a days
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Okay but, why are so many people un buckled? Every time I go on a plane people only unbuckle for the washroom, and even so people rarely do now a days
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reallifelore
Car drivers when they see each other: >: ( D: <
Bus drivers when they see each other: :) (:
Pilots when they see each other: o_0 (O_o)
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Car drivers when they see each other: >: ( D: <
Bus drivers when they see each other: :) (:
Pilots when they see each other: o_0 (O_o)
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-marvelgeek9577
The trainee didn-t deserve a one year prison sentence. He was probably a few weeks on the job and was overwhelmed managing other flights.
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The trainee didn-t deserve a one year prison sentence. He was probably a few weeks on the job and was overwhelmed managing other flights.
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reallifelore
I don-t think the trainee deserved the Jale time as he is just a trainee and the supervisor didn-t even say the correct flight numbers
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I don-t think the trainee deserved the Jale time as he is just a trainee and the supervisor didn-t even say the correct flight numbers
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-AbdullahKhanLodhi
imagine how scary it would've been if both planes had flew the plane down. instead of more injuries the people would've died.
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imagine how scary it would've been if both planes had flew the plane down. instead of more injuries the people would've died.
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-Idrk13
I am only here because it reminds me of that scene in breaking bad where Jane's father accidentally made 2 planes crashed to each other.
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I am only here because it reminds me of that scene in breaking bad where Jane's father accidentally made 2 planes crashed to each other.
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-Sip_Drink_YT
Kind of creepy how these 2 planes almost crashed but in the same year 8 months later 2 more planes actually crashed causing 9/11
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Kind of creepy how these 2 planes almost crashed but in the same year 8 months later 2 more planes actually crashed causing 9/11
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-fullbass1426
And I thought everyone learned their lesson from the Uberlingen tragedy? TCAS instructions should always prevail over ATC.
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And I thought everyone learned their lesson from the Uberlingen tragedy? TCAS instructions should always prevail over ATC.
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-lukeyy5745
pilots are trained to prioritize TCAS instructions over atc so it wasnt just the new atc controllers fault, the pilots too
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pilots are trained to prioritize TCAS instructions over atc so it wasnt just the new atc controllers fault, the pilots too
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-AaravGamezOffical
There is one incident happened in India b/w the Kazakh Airplane and Indian Airplane! In which both Collided in Air!
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There is one incident happened in India b/w the Kazakh Airplane and Indian Airplane! In which both Collided in Air!
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-ExodiumTM
Crazy how the air traffic control staff were sent to prison for being overloaded with work, instead of hiring more people.
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Crazy how the air traffic control staff were sent to prison for being overloaded with work, instead of hiring more people.
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-gizmoknow-how2022
In this case the planes missed each other, but in the case of 1996 charkhi-dadri mid air collision, they didn't.
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In this case the planes missed each other, but in the case of 1996 charkhi-dadri mid air collision, they didn't.
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-angusfairtheoir
Never really considered it, but it's amazing that in any given moment there over are a million people in the sky.
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Never really considered it, but it's amazing that in any given moment there over are a million people in the sky.
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-figure4202
If that crash the death toll be 677 people more than Charkhi Dadri mid-air collision & terenife airport disaster
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If that crash the death toll be 677 people more than Charkhi Dadri mid-air collision & terenife airport disaster
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-jays9572
it doesn-t really matter if they were 10 meters or 120 if the pilot didn-t do what he did 677 ppl would be dead -
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it doesn-t really matter if they were 10 meters or 120 if the pilot didn-t do what he did 677 ppl would be dead -
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-zeez-tbh
Over 600 people had to go to the hospital over that simple mistake,
But you can fix that, with Dashlane!
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Over 600 people had to go to the hospital over that simple mistake,
But you can fix that, with Dashlane!
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-bderrick4944
This is why I don-t think robots and autopilot systems are going to replace human pilots anytime soon.
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This is why I don-t think robots and autopilot systems are going to replace human pilots anytime soon.
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