Why is it so hard to escape poverty? - Ann-Hel n Bay
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Date: 2022-01-11
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phoenix
Many people think they know so much about how to solve this issue, yet that same many fail to realize that poverty is a product like disease that people make a profit from. without poverty, human trafficing doesn't exist, without poverty most diseases wont exist, then most insurance companies don't exist, and modern slavery doesn't exist. nothing is free mentality health care, housing, and so on is an illusion while the right to survive and the right to rest are a human birth right. The people who work hard to achieve what they do believe that they have that right and no one should tax them for it. People who grow up in poverty know that hard work sometimes has a different face. Say a child that stays home from school to take care of a sick parent or sibling is hard work yet that experience becomes a set back if the child is missing out on school. domestic violence creates poverty. We don't allow poor people into the country legally. Aliens for lack of a better word buy their way into this country and they are also asked to prove what they will do for money. Most are offered gov. grants to open a restaurant, or business. So when you have people in America earning min wage they cannot compete with Immigrants who get housing vouchers, and bank loans. A poor white American has the most judgement. We are not allowed to be poor or we are labeled lazy. we margainalize people of color expecting them to be poor. If we are homeless something must be wrong with us. Living paycheck to paycheck keeps people locked into oppression, and this funds the people who profit from poverty. LIVABLE wages no matter what level of education or where you are from or born might be a great start. Housing should be off limits for profit unless for repairs. Landlords are greedy and make it impossible to live. Commercial real estate should not create poverty by driving housing market to higher prices. Elders and children make up most the numbers of homeless. We need to address domestic violence on state level, provide shelters for people. we need work study programs where people can earn a reference. references for jobs ad housing some people are starting over and need references and jobs that allow them gain self respect. The puzzle has many pieces. these issues can be solved by following Norway's model of socioeconomic structure and seeing what will work where slowly making the transition. fairness and equality for all. women still do not get jobs or earn the same as men. Women are still considered products so some women enslave themselves as a product in order to survive and that becomes an even worse trap. women dont support women enough if they did men would not have so much power. poverty is a gender imbalance, a wage imbalance, domestic violence and immigration issues; lots of pieces but rarely someone just tryin to scam the system like most might think.
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Many people think they know so much about how to solve this issue, yet that same many fail to realize that poverty is a product like disease that people make a profit from. without poverty, human trafficing doesn't exist, without poverty most diseases wont exist, then most insurance companies don't exist, and modern slavery doesn't exist. nothing is free mentality health care, housing, and so on is an illusion while the right to survive and the right to rest are a human birth right. The people who work hard to achieve what they do believe that they have that right and no one should tax them for it. People who grow up in poverty know that hard work sometimes has a different face. Say a child that stays home from school to take care of a sick parent or sibling is hard work yet that experience becomes a set back if the child is missing out on school. domestic violence creates poverty. We don't allow poor people into the country legally. Aliens for lack of a better word buy their way into this country and they are also asked to prove what they will do for money. Most are offered gov. grants to open a restaurant, or business. So when you have people in America earning min wage they cannot compete with Immigrants who get housing vouchers, and bank loans. A poor white American has the most judgement. We are not allowed to be poor or we are labeled lazy. we margainalize people of color expecting them to be poor. If we are homeless something must be wrong with us. Living paycheck to paycheck keeps people locked into oppression, and this funds the people who profit from poverty. LIVABLE wages no matter what level of education or where you are from or born might be a great start. Housing should be off limits for profit unless for repairs. Landlords are greedy and make it impossible to live. Commercial real estate should not create poverty by driving housing market to higher prices. Elders and children make up most the numbers of homeless. We need to address domestic violence on state level, provide shelters for people. we need work study programs where people can earn a reference. references for jobs ad housing some people are starting over and need references and jobs that allow them gain self respect. The puzzle has many pieces. these issues can be solved by following Norway's model of socioeconomic structure and seeing what will work where slowly making the transition. fairness and equality for all. women still do not get jobs or earn the same as men. Women are still considered products so some women enslave themselves as a product in order to survive and that becomes an even worse trap. women dont support women enough if they did men would not have so much power. poverty is a gender imbalance, a wage imbalance, domestic violence and immigration issues; lots of pieces but rarely someone just tryin to scam the system like most might think.
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daedalus
I think a potential solution lies in insurance
Take Canada for instance, there and other places similar have government funded healthcare services through crown corporations, insurance is provided by employment
But in many places where poverty is getting worse and worse don t have something like this
I believe the solution lies in flattening the starting line, with equity in the form of universal government insurance
Brick and mortar, hospitals, don t need to be run by government, but I think that more universal and equal access to these services are necessary
Perhaps also expanded to other forms of insurance
Hmmm
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I think a potential solution lies in insurance
Take Canada for instance, there and other places similar have government funded healthcare services through crown corporations, insurance is provided by employment
But in many places where poverty is getting worse and worse don t have something like this
I believe the solution lies in flattening the starting line, with equity in the form of universal government insurance
Brick and mortar, hospitals, don t need to be run by government, but I think that more universal and equal access to these services are necessary
Perhaps also expanded to other forms of insurance
Hmmm
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Eric
The issue and why even tho we know this won't be enough to change it is the idea that profit wins over anything, neoliberalism is the idea that private corporations are the only ones that know how to get stuff done, it was pushed so hard that the only good education was private, good health care was private which are the main things that can change the future of a person. Suddenly you needed money to stop being poor and you remained poor for not being able to afford good education
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The issue and why even tho we know this won't be enough to change it is the idea that profit wins over anything, neoliberalism is the idea that private corporations are the only ones that know how to get stuff done, it was pushed so hard that the only good education was private, good health care was private which are the main things that can change the future of a person. Suddenly you needed money to stop being poor and you remained poor for not being able to afford good education
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SeriousnessTV
I have developed that there is an idea that there is the Poverty Paradox that as you make more money you tend to spend more to be able to keep up with it. Not to mention that inflation seems to bring fourth higher prices but not higher wages. The system seems to favor all but the poor due to us living off the government and not contributing much to taxes. We are left to be dependent on the government until we are able to break the loop through the act of someone else.
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I have developed that there is an idea that there is the Poverty Paradox that as you make more money you tend to spend more to be able to keep up with it. Not to mention that inflation seems to bring fourth higher prices but not higher wages. The system seems to favor all but the poor due to us living off the government and not contributing much to taxes. We are left to be dependent on the government until we are able to break the loop through the act of someone else.
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Mary
UBI let's corporations off of the hook for paying a fair wage. It is not the answer to the problem of poverty. A guaranteed job with guaranteed livable wage and a guaranteed benefit package that allows workers to live with dignity is the answer to poverty. When we force companies to pay that living wage and treat us like humans that will also raise the tax base so that people who cannot work can get better benefits and they can then also not live in poverty.
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UBI let's corporations off of the hook for paying a fair wage. It is not the answer to the problem of poverty. A guaranteed job with guaranteed livable wage and a guaranteed benefit package that allows workers to live with dignity is the answer to poverty. When we force companies to pay that living wage and treat us like humans that will also raise the tax base so that people who cannot work can get better benefits and they can then also not live in poverty.
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Matt
Also worth considering is the fact that under UBI, the companies and capitalists that control food and land and health care and whatnot can now arbitrarily increase the prices. You would need something like rent control impelemented in different ways to combat this and make a UBI effective. Alternatively, Universal Basic Needs or something of the like circumvents this problem.
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Also worth considering is the fact that under UBI, the companies and capitalists that control food and land and health care and whatnot can now arbitrarily increase the prices. You would need something like rent control impelemented in different ways to combat this and make a UBI effective. Alternatively, Universal Basic Needs or something of the like circumvents this problem.
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Nin
do you know the thought experiment with the boots?
one person has enough money to buy 50 shoes that are sturdy enough to last 10 years
another person only has 10 to buy shoes but they only last a year so they have to buy new ones every single year
after 10 years, Person A has spent 50 and Person B has spent 100 on shoes, even though Person B was poorer to begin with
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do you know the thought experiment with the boots?
one person has enough money to buy 50 shoes that are sturdy enough to last 10 years
another person only has 10 to buy shoes but they only last a year so they have to buy new ones every single year
after 10 years, Person A has spent 50 and Person B has spent 100 on shoes, even though Person B was poorer to begin with
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SparkEthos
Universal Basic Income is expensive, and governments that employ it must hope that the income they distribute will return at least the same income in taxes. This is the big unbalance that has to be rectified before it could be a sustainable program. Does the average person contribute to society MORE than they consume? Tough question.
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Universal Basic Income is expensive, and governments that employ it must hope that the income they distribute will return at least the same income in taxes. This is the big unbalance that has to be rectified before it could be a sustainable program. Does the average person contribute to society MORE than they consume? Tough question.
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The
I think Universal Basic Income is closer than ever cuz in the next 5yrs automation and AI will skyrocket and many ppl will lose their jobs.
Taxi driver job lost to self driving car
Waiter job lost to robots
Factory jobs again lost to robots
Etc.
So we will soon be experiencing drastic changes in the upcoming years
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I think Universal Basic Income is closer than ever cuz in the next 5yrs automation and AI will skyrocket and many ppl will lose their jobs.
Taxi driver job lost to self driving car
Waiter job lost to robots
Factory jobs again lost to robots
Etc.
So we will soon be experiencing drastic changes in the upcoming years
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