Who Was The Real King Harold? King Harold: Fact Or Fiction Timeline
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Date: 2022-07-19
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Beth
Was Harold English, or was he an Anglo Saxon? (Based on Parental Names/References he was Anglo Saxen and Dane/Viking)
[Understanding that the original English were, as the Welsh and Irish, in greater part, of Basque genetic lineage, (and some areas of Ireland, Counties Kerry and Cork, retain a high % of the Basque DNA, as they escaped most of the invasions influences due to geographic location. ]
Today, and for centuries, the Male DNA of Great Britain reflects a void of Male English DNA. Female continued, but the male nearly totally disappeared and by the Middle Ages.
Factors: This subject has yet to be fully understood, as it obviously resulted from waves of immigration, wars, and a factor of some degree of marriage to preferred Social Class values. However, there exists a possibility that the Academics seem to avoid, likely due in some greater degree, to current Social repercussions, ethnic cleansing of the male English. I have no resource to offer for this possibility, but it should be a consideration and the Authentic Academics can research the subject.
The English vs Anglo Saxon subject regarding Great Britain is not widely realuzed, but the DNA resources regarding Great Britain and its History are available for those interested.
There's a story in this subject that deserves to be clarified and to be added to the History Books. It is clear that the Anglo Saxon subject is mist consuming and I mean on every level, there is an Ego Minded Arrogance and Judgemental Social Attitude that shadows the subject, as well.
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Was Harold English, or was he an Anglo Saxon? (Based on Parental Names/References he was Anglo Saxen and Dane/Viking)
[Understanding that the original English were, as the Welsh and Irish, in greater part, of Basque genetic lineage, (and some areas of Ireland, Counties Kerry and Cork, retain a high % of the Basque DNA, as they escaped most of the invasions influences due to geographic location. ]
Today, and for centuries, the Male DNA of Great Britain reflects a void of Male English DNA. Female continued, but the male nearly totally disappeared and by the Middle Ages.
Factors: This subject has yet to be fully understood, as it obviously resulted from waves of immigration, wars, and a factor of some degree of marriage to preferred Social Class values. However, there exists a possibility that the Academics seem to avoid, likely due in some greater degree, to current Social repercussions, ethnic cleansing of the male English. I have no resource to offer for this possibility, but it should be a consideration and the Authentic Academics can research the subject.
The English vs Anglo Saxon subject regarding Great Britain is not widely realuzed, but the DNA resources regarding Great Britain and its History are available for those interested.
There's a story in this subject that deserves to be clarified and to be added to the History Books. It is clear that the Anglo Saxon subject is mist consuming and I mean on every level, there is an Ego Minded Arrogance and Judgemental Social Attitude that shadows the subject, as well.
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Wolf
No. The Normans were not predominantly of Scandinavian descent. Rollo accepted the position of Duke of. Normandy and settled there with a small group of his men. Thereafter although some Scandinavian settlers followed Rollo to Normandy there is no record of substantial settlement of Scandinavians in Normandy. There is also almost no legacy of language and culture to suggest wide scale Norse settlement. Would be interesting to see a DNA analysis of present day Normans with say all 8 great grandparents born in Normandy. The era of these kind of DNA analyses is rapidly disappearing with African and Asian immigration.
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No. The Normans were not predominantly of Scandinavian descent. Rollo accepted the position of Duke of. Normandy and settled there with a small group of his men. Thereafter although some Scandinavian settlers followed Rollo to Normandy there is no record of substantial settlement of Scandinavians in Normandy. There is also almost no legacy of language and culture to suggest wide scale Norse settlement. Would be interesting to see a DNA analysis of present day Normans with say all 8 great grandparents born in Normandy. The era of these kind of DNA analyses is rapidly disappearing with African and Asian immigration.
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The
Swein is pronounced Svein.
The letter w, which the English pronounce double-u, because when written cursive looks to most like a double u, is in fact a double v.
In the Nordic languages, such as Norwegian, it is called double-v, and sounds thus: dobbelt-v.
It is one of the many letters, along with much of the English vocabulary, and several names, which comes from the Vikings.
Having lived in Norway for 2 decades, I know a few men with the name Svein. Most use the single v, but occasionally one finds a double-v, but they are all pronounced as v.
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Swein is pronounced Svein.
The letter w, which the English pronounce double-u, because when written cursive looks to most like a double u, is in fact a double v.
In the Nordic languages, such as Norwegian, it is called double-v, and sounds thus: dobbelt-v.
It is one of the many letters, along with much of the English vocabulary, and several names, which comes from the Vikings.
Having lived in Norway for 2 decades, I know a few men with the name Svein. Most use the single v, but occasionally one finds a double-v, but they are all pronounced as v.
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Transcendian
Implying at the end that foreign money made divisions between the people & those with wealth ever after. The model for the West being the regular soldier and the working classes used to keep the wealthy in security while desperation want & weakness was cemented as universal. Of course by the 1200s Kings ran off on the Crusades all for the foreign power of the Popes. If they returned they stayed the rest of their days in the convents they had endowed. But I am no expert and this is what I got from today's history show.
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Implying at the end that foreign money made divisions between the people & those with wealth ever after. The model for the West being the regular soldier and the working classes used to keep the wealthy in security while desperation want & weakness was cemented as universal. Of course by the 1200s Kings ran off on the Crusades all for the foreign power of the Popes. If they returned they stayed the rest of their days in the convents they had endowed. But I am no expert and this is what I got from today's history show.
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Blitzen
He should definitely have a huge monument put up to honour him. This was a man who fought for his country time and time again and who eventually gave his life for it. He is the embodiment of English courage and honour so he should be remembered as such, Not just the man who lost the battle of hastings but a man who embodies the heroic English spirit which has remained through the tests of time.
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He should definitely have a huge monument put up to honour him. This was a man who fought for his country time and time again and who eventually gave his life for it. He is the embodiment of English courage and honour so he should be remembered as such, Not just the man who lost the battle of hastings but a man who embodies the heroic English spirit which has remained through the tests of time.
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Viper
No Tony - you are NOT standing on the location of Harold's death. It is far more likely that's the location of William's tent. Go on through and out of the town of Battle and you come to a long straight road going up a long steep hill. Harold was at the top of that. The only thing that's known for certain about the exact spot is that it wasn't anywhere near the later built abbey.
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No Tony - you are NOT standing on the location of Harold's death. It is far more likely that's the location of William's tent. Go on through and out of the town of Battle and you come to a long straight road going up a long steep hill. Harold was at the top of that. The only thing that's known for certain about the exact spot is that it wasn't anywhere near the later built abbey.
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Iain
Who is this weirdo 34: 55? Sheilds and spears numpty! a sword is a side arm. In 1066 a sword would have cost two years wages. You don't ram a wall with a Porsche!
Axes, Arrows. Hammers and spears! I have yet to see any documentary where the examine remains and the experts say it's clear that this mans head was cleanly severed using a pre medieval sword!
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Who is this weirdo 34: 55? Sheilds and spears numpty! a sword is a side arm. In 1066 a sword would have cost two years wages. You don't ram a wall with a Porsche!
Axes, Arrows. Hammers and spears! I have yet to see any documentary where the examine remains and the experts say it's clear that this mans head was cleanly severed using a pre medieval sword!
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Edwin
My wife's family can be traced uninterrupted back to William the Conqueror they came with William because of heroism in the battle of Hastings, the De La Tour family were given Land and title, Lucinda my wife still carries that titled name,
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My wife's family can be traced uninterrupted back to William the Conqueror they came with William because of heroism in the battle of Hastings, the De La Tour family were given Land and title, Lucinda my wife still carries that titled name,
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damian
It is not that Harold was half Viking, but rather that the Angles, Jutes and Saxons were kindred to the Scandinavians, originated from the South of it and the Anglo-Saxon Old English language was very, very Scandinavian.
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It is not that Harold was half Viking, but rather that the Angles, Jutes and Saxons were kindred to the Scandinavians, originated from the South of it and the Anglo-Saxon Old English language was very, very Scandinavian.
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Jolly
Ralph 'the Timid' - no wonder he got overrun. Anglo-Saxons really got stiffed, not only by the Norman conquerors, but by History that portrays them as the bigots and overlords that the Normans actually became.
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Ralph 'the Timid' - no wonder he got overrun. Anglo-Saxons really got stiffed, not only by the Norman conquerors, but by History that portrays them as the bigots and overlords that the Normans actually became.
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Andy
His very first statement repeats popular myth no no foundation in fact, no evidence that the battle was where the town of Battle now stands, neither is there any evidence that he got an arrow in the eye.
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His very first statement repeats popular myth no no foundation in fact, no evidence that the battle was where the town of Battle now stands, neither is there any evidence that he got an arrow in the eye.
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Lizzie
I think Tony's closing comments on this documentary are so stirring and spot on. This is a really good demonstration of how our history informs our understanding of the present. Thank you for this.
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I think Tony's closing comments on this documentary are so stirring and spot on. This is a really good demonstration of how our history informs our understanding of the present. Thank you for this.
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Scott
That doesn't look like Crowhurst to me Tony. Where is the tree, the stone wall, the lake of blood, the great ditch, or how about some artifacts? Look to the old port of Hastings or Harold's estate
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That doesn't look like Crowhurst to me Tony. Where is the tree, the stone wall, the lake of blood, the great ditch, or how about some artifacts? Look to the old port of Hastings or Harold's estate
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education
It would be loosed an arrow, not fired, and Harold Godwinson wasn't killed by the arrow. After that, he was killed when Norman cavalry (knights) cut through the English line to kill the king.
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It would be loosed an arrow, not fired, and Harold Godwinson wasn't killed by the arrow. After that, he was killed when Norman cavalry (knights) cut through the English line to kill the king.
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ddpresearch07
Famous Greek saying: count no man happy until he is dead. Harold was the greatest soldier of his age. Proved it time and time again but lost a single battle unfortunately the last one
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Famous Greek saying: count no man happy until he is dead. Harold was the greatest soldier of his age. Proved it time and time again but lost a single battle unfortunately the last one
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Lee
We need a big budget 10 part band of brothers style series about 1066. the story and characters are a gift for a good script writer, just keep wokeness and LARP armour out of it
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We need a big budget 10 part band of brothers style series about 1066. the story and characters are a gift for a good script writer, just keep wokeness and LARP armour out of it
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Jacqueline
I agree King Harold should be honoured.
We should learn more about him in our History lessons at School.
Thank you for this very interesting documentary.
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I agree King Harold should be honoured.
We should learn more about him in our History lessons at School.
Thank you for this very interesting documentary.
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RippleInTime
I don't know why but I really like Godwinson for some reason. I find his crushing Victory over Hadrada more impressive then Williams victory over Godwinson
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I don't know why but I really like Godwinson for some reason. I find his crushing Victory over Hadrada more impressive then Williams victory over Godwinson
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Clay
We need more of these deep delvings into hidden history. We also need them to be made more well known and taught. This world is ignorant to its own true history.
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We need more of these deep delvings into hidden history. We also need them to be made more well known and taught. This world is ignorant to its own true history.
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