Are We on The Verge of Nuclear War?
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Date: 2023-06-03
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David
This would affect the world similar to how europe was thrown into a dark age after the fall of rome, but with slight differences. The majority of survivors would have basic modern concepts they didnt have, there would still be millions of units of whatever commodities still kaying around such as batteries, lightbulbs, generators, toilet paper, canned foods and etc. The areas more rural would still have intact buildings, gas stations, bridges, roads, highways, and eveything else far away from the ensueing nuclear hellscape. The cities themselves from the outer streches would be fine after about 2 weeks as 90% of the nuclear material subsides, and the further out the less it is. It would be more feudal in that each community would have a need for a common defence, stable leadership, and would be self sufficient and may not want to be under the control of astate like what we have now probably never again. The demographics would change as whites would probably become an overwhelming majority once again after all the degenerate cities have been obliterated. Numerous fake states and movements would arise but it would return to the more traditional lifestyle for everybody out side the cities but with more advanced technologies.
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This would affect the world similar to how europe was thrown into a dark age after the fall of rome, but with slight differences. The majority of survivors would have basic modern concepts they didnt have, there would still be millions of units of whatever commodities still kaying around such as batteries, lightbulbs, generators, toilet paper, canned foods and etc. The areas more rural would still have intact buildings, gas stations, bridges, roads, highways, and eveything else far away from the ensueing nuclear hellscape. The cities themselves from the outer streches would be fine after about 2 weeks as 90% of the nuclear material subsides, and the further out the less it is. It would be more feudal in that each community would have a need for a common defence, stable leadership, and would be self sufficient and may not want to be under the control of astate like what we have now probably never again. The demographics would change as whites would probably become an overwhelming majority once again after all the degenerate cities have been obliterated. Numerous fake states and movements would arise but it would return to the more traditional lifestyle for everybody out side the cities but with more advanced technologies.
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me
i think the main effects of a nuclear war wouldn't just be the bombs themselves or even the collapse in supply chains and toxification of soil and the environment, it would be massive damage to electrical infrastructure. nuclear warheads can completely disable large swaths of the power grid. it would be a slow, hellish death over months, years, and decades as many hundreds of millions of people no longer have reliable sources of food, clean drinking water, refrigeration, or heat, sanitation and transportation cease to function, infrastructure collapses, healthcare is no longer available, and money becomes worthless. premodern societies had already reached relative homeostasis with not having electricity. their control structures were also usually more direct and adaptable to the turbulence of history. i recall hearing a statistic that the power grid going down as a result of a solar flare or electromagnetic bursts from a few high altitude nuclear bursts would result in 90%+ casualties in the united states in THREE MONTHS.
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i think the main effects of a nuclear war wouldn't just be the bombs themselves or even the collapse in supply chains and toxification of soil and the environment, it would be massive damage to electrical infrastructure. nuclear warheads can completely disable large swaths of the power grid. it would be a slow, hellish death over months, years, and decades as many hundreds of millions of people no longer have reliable sources of food, clean drinking water, refrigeration, or heat, sanitation and transportation cease to function, infrastructure collapses, healthcare is no longer available, and money becomes worthless. premodern societies had already reached relative homeostasis with not having electricity. their control structures were also usually more direct and adaptable to the turbulence of history. i recall hearing a statistic that the power grid going down as a result of a solar flare or electromagnetic bursts from a few high altitude nuclear bursts would result in 90%+ casualties in the united states in THREE MONTHS.
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Mark
Hi, licensed Radiation Safety officer here to explain animals in Chernobyl.
Humans have a 100 Roentgen (or RAD) lifetime limit to radiation. The annual employee acceptable limit is 5 R per year. Public limit is 200 mR per year. Your body does NOT recover from radiation. It s permanent but acute exposure vs long term are two drastically different results.
Depending on the animal, annual doseage could be 50-700 R per lifetime. And since animals don t have the same long life as humans, they can survive Chernobyl s contamination (tho I wouldn t say they are unaffected by radiation)
They are getting the same doseage as a human but certain types of cells in your body are gonna be more affected than others like the eyes vs the heart.
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Hi, licensed Radiation Safety officer here to explain animals in Chernobyl.
Humans have a 100 Roentgen (or RAD) lifetime limit to radiation. The annual employee acceptable limit is 5 R per year. Public limit is 200 mR per year. Your body does NOT recover from radiation. It s permanent but acute exposure vs long term are two drastically different results.
Depending on the animal, annual doseage could be 50-700 R per lifetime. And since animals don t have the same long life as humans, they can survive Chernobyl s contamination (tho I wouldn t say they are unaffected by radiation)
They are getting the same doseage as a human but certain types of cells in your body are gonna be more affected than others like the eyes vs the heart.
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Reviews
What I hate about modern war (and I would like other people's opinion) is how impersonal it feels. The fact that you may die by a machine that is controlled far far away (drone or guided missiles for example) makes me wonder if soldiers (or whoever controlled it) can feel remorse. There must be something different for the human psyche when you kill someone by a control panel rather than by your own brute force(swords and spears for example. Also those machines have a lot more killing potential (not even mentioning the fact that some of these weapon can carry diseases that will kill much later) rather than old tools. Do we really need this much power?
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What I hate about modern war (and I would like other people's opinion) is how impersonal it feels. The fact that you may die by a machine that is controlled far far away (drone or guided missiles for example) makes me wonder if soldiers (or whoever controlled it) can feel remorse. There must be something different for the human psyche when you kill someone by a control panel rather than by your own brute force(swords and spears for example. Also those machines have a lot more killing potential (not even mentioning the fact that some of these weapon can carry diseases that will kill much later) rather than old tools. Do we really need this much power?
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J. C.
I think you're a little too optimistic about the US's position geopolitically. While we are busily sucking up the developing world's excess population, we have not had sustainable birth rates since the 70's. I don't think the diversity is our strength strategy is going to last the rest of this century and I don't know of any country that lasted intact for centuries at the level of cultural/ethnic fragmentation we are at now after decades of mass immigration with no real push for integration. Rome did not last long in one piece after the barbarians started taking over the military/government.
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I think you're a little too optimistic about the US's position geopolitically. While we are busily sucking up the developing world's excess population, we have not had sustainable birth rates since the 70's. I don't think the diversity is our strength strategy is going to last the rest of this century and I don't know of any country that lasted intact for centuries at the level of cultural/ethnic fragmentation we are at now after decades of mass immigration with no real push for integration. Rome did not last long in one piece after the barbarians started taking over the military/government.
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MajorTomFisher
The human beings in the country you want to conquer are still a resource and destroying that resource with weapons of mass destruction makes the land you're conquering much less valuable. Scorched Earth warfare is only useful in very niche situations. Even if you _don't_ conquer that country, it's still possible you'll open up trade with that country a hundred years into the future, and having more people in that country to buy from or sell to you is very valuable.
It's utilitarian, but you can't say it's not logical.
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The human beings in the country you want to conquer are still a resource and destroying that resource with weapons of mass destruction makes the land you're conquering much less valuable. Scorched Earth warfare is only useful in very niche situations. Even if you _don't_ conquer that country, it's still possible you'll open up trade with that country a hundred years into the future, and having more people in that country to buy from or sell to you is very valuable.
It's utilitarian, but you can't say it's not logical.
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Doctor
The biggest and most damaging part of any nuclear war is how nuking major cities would kill infrastructure. which means most of us would be at each others' throats for the last loaf of bread at the store. The lack of resources and distribution networks after the war and how quickly and effectively people can pull civilization (food, water, fuel, and electricity being readily available) back together is going to be the great decider of how many casualties will accrue.
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The biggest and most damaging part of any nuclear war is how nuking major cities would kill infrastructure. which means most of us would be at each others' throats for the last loaf of bread at the store. The lack of resources and distribution networks after the war and how quickly and effectively people can pull civilization (food, water, fuel, and electricity being readily available) back together is going to be the great decider of how many casualties will accrue.
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Abnormal
For a nuclear war to kill BILLIONS, you'd attack farmlands and infrastructure.
Irradiated soils and no way for food to get to populated areas = everyone starves.
If a massive nuclear strike (say like 25 nukes in a day or two between India and Pakastan) happens, it would be akin to a few large volcanoes erupting, cooling the earth by 1 2 C, enough in some areas to obliterate crop production for a few years, triggering mass unrest and starvation.
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For a nuclear war to kill BILLIONS, you'd attack farmlands and infrastructure.
Irradiated soils and no way for food to get to populated areas = everyone starves.
If a massive nuclear strike (say like 25 nukes in a day or two between India and Pakastan) happens, it would be akin to a few large volcanoes erupting, cooling the earth by 1 2 C, enough in some areas to obliterate crop production for a few years, triggering mass unrest and starvation.
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Tyr
An interesting and little known side note: israel stole americas nuclear tech and materials through an espionage operation then used that to illegally build nukes despite international pressure.
For instance: JFK was worried, he wanted to send in official inspectors, then send more periodically to make sure israel did get nukes-- otherwise the arab countries would start trying to build nukes. But, then he got assassinated: (
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An interesting and little known side note: israel stole americas nuclear tech and materials through an espionage operation then used that to illegally build nukes despite international pressure.
For instance: JFK was worried, he wanted to send in official inspectors, then send more periodically to make sure israel did get nukes-- otherwise the arab countries would start trying to build nukes. But, then he got assassinated: (
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Goi
BRIC. S function is to break US hegemony. What cones afterwards is a different matter. BRIC. S no longer matters.
Americanss make the mistake thinking BRIC. S is a replacement system for Pax-Americana.
When it comes to nuclear war, i won't listen much to Americans. They have a superpower complex. Because they are on top, they think why would anyone in the world want to start a nuclear war and destroy Pax-Americana.
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BRIC. S function is to break US hegemony. What cones afterwards is a different matter. BRIC. S no longer matters.
Americanss make the mistake thinking BRIC. S is a replacement system for Pax-Americana.
When it comes to nuclear war, i won't listen much to Americans. They have a superpower complex. Because they are on top, they think why would anyone in the world want to start a nuclear war and destroy Pax-Americana.
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Agrx
Niell and Howe predicted this video. They said the fear of nuclear war would be greatly down played right before WWIII. They also predicted a Gen-Xer would pull the Boomer's finger off the nuke button, with a pack of Millennials and Gen-Zers on his back trying to stop him. In other words, you've all lost your f cking mind. Nuclear war is nothing to pontificate lightly. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Niell and Howe predicted this video. They said the fear of nuclear war would be greatly down played right before WWIII. They also predicted a Gen-Xer would pull the Boomer's finger off the nuke button, with a pack of Millennials and Gen-Zers on his back trying to stop him. In other words, you've all lost your f cking mind. Nuclear war is nothing to pontificate lightly. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Jonathan
Before whites came and enslaved Africa they (bipocs) did not even have a word for murder let alone war. For thousands of years the bipocs were able to live in harmony with other bipocs and with nature around them. They respected Mother Nature as they depended upon her for their way of life.
It was only after whites enslaved the worlds bipocs that they came to know the evils of (white) man.
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Before whites came and enslaved Africa they (bipocs) did not even have a word for murder let alone war. For thousands of years the bipocs were able to live in harmony with other bipocs and with nature around them. They respected Mother Nature as they depended upon her for their way of life.
It was only after whites enslaved the worlds bipocs that they came to know the evils of (white) man.
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The
One correction on hypersonics:
You dont need to be faster than the missile to intercept. Coming in at a proper angle will do it.
Hypersonics arent that impressive. The US used to have a hypersonic program, to the point where they had one that would literally light itself on fire it moved so fast. We ended it because its not that efficient as a way of getting through missile defense.
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One correction on hypersonics:
You dont need to be faster than the missile to intercept. Coming in at a proper angle will do it.
Hypersonics arent that impressive. The US used to have a hypersonic program, to the point where they had one that would literally light itself on fire it moved so fast. We ended it because its not that efficient as a way of getting through missile defense.
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Allen
I've noted before this young man seems to be reading scripts from Langley. He loves the idealogical dream of Pax Americana lasting another few centuries as adversaries crumble from civil wars. No mention of Thucydides Trap and his knowledge of the progress of current events is whatever CNN says. He should understand that nothing they say is the reality on the ground.
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I've noted before this young man seems to be reading scripts from Langley. He loves the idealogical dream of Pax Americana lasting another few centuries as adversaries crumble from civil wars. No mention of Thucydides Trap and his knowledge of the progress of current events is whatever CNN says. He should understand that nothing they say is the reality on the ground.
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