Did the CIA Discover the Spirit World
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Date: 2024-03-10
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venuspluto67
My theory about why the spirit-world appears to be this chaotic, unpeaceful place is because the layer of the spirit-world immediately above ours is what some people call the Fourth Dimension, which is a place of polarization where the ego is still very much in play. (I don't know if this Fourth Dimension is the same thing a physicist would call the fourth dimension, so that's why I put it in quotes) In at least one popular school of occult interpretation, the Fourth Dimension consists of these levels: the lower, middle, and higher astral planes (which are mostly powered by emotions, the mental plane which is ruled by pure intellectual mind, and the causal plane, where very small shifts there can cause massive shifts here in physical reality. There is also the etheric plane, which is an intermediate realm between our physical world and the Fourth Dimension.
Besides our physical bodies, we also have a body for the etheric plane that our physical body needs to be able to function, an emotional body for the astral plane, and a mental sheath (a sort of spirit proto-body) for the mental plane. You can take or leave all of this, of course, but I just thought this might be a good place to describe how this video might fit into the map of the spiritual cosmos as described by many a modern occultist.
There is a lot of nastiness on the lower astral plane, so I'm guessing that's where much of the danger involved in exploring the spirit world would come from. Ouija Boards should be avoided because without adequate protection, those things have a way of attracting lower astral plane nasties. Our official society's insistence on denying the spirit-world is why, I believe, that energy from the lower astral plane is so badly flooding and polluting our world right now. The spiritual waking up that Rudyard is talking about here is certainly our only way out of this self-imposed mess in which we find ourselves.
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My theory about why the spirit-world appears to be this chaotic, unpeaceful place is because the layer of the spirit-world immediately above ours is what some people call the Fourth Dimension, which is a place of polarization where the ego is still very much in play. (I don't know if this Fourth Dimension is the same thing a physicist would call the fourth dimension, so that's why I put it in quotes) In at least one popular school of occult interpretation, the Fourth Dimension consists of these levels: the lower, middle, and higher astral planes (which are mostly powered by emotions, the mental plane which is ruled by pure intellectual mind, and the causal plane, where very small shifts there can cause massive shifts here in physical reality. There is also the etheric plane, which is an intermediate realm between our physical world and the Fourth Dimension.
Besides our physical bodies, we also have a body for the etheric plane that our physical body needs to be able to function, an emotional body for the astral plane, and a mental sheath (a sort of spirit proto-body) for the mental plane. You can take or leave all of this, of course, but I just thought this might be a good place to describe how this video might fit into the map of the spiritual cosmos as described by many a modern occultist.
There is a lot of nastiness on the lower astral plane, so I'm guessing that's where much of the danger involved in exploring the spirit world would come from. Ouija Boards should be avoided because without adequate protection, those things have a way of attracting lower astral plane nasties. Our official society's insistence on denying the spirit-world is why, I believe, that energy from the lower astral plane is so badly flooding and polluting our world right now. The spiritual waking up that Rudyard is talking about here is certainly our only way out of this self-imposed mess in which we find ourselves.
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brianwatson3011
Brother, i sincerely am beginning to really enjoy your content & u are wise beyond your yrs. I dont intend any condescension, either. I am only 48 y. o. contractor/engineer (although i didnt complete my degree) former army airborne infantryman, papaw of a 3 y. o. grandbaby; a somewhat of political activist, researcher, & proud wearer of conspiracy theorist badge of honor these days. I grew up in a heavily dominant Baptist fam. So sick of the mal/dis/misinformation! So sick of watching our nationl that took 250 yrs to build, decimated in 2. 5! U cant trust the govt; cant trust science/academia; nor religion or even your parents (by default! I now have cancer in least 2 organs if not more. Thats not a doom n gloom outlook; its just what it is. however, id LIKE to have some 'TRUTH' prior to expired! But i genuinely wanted to give u some 'props' for your thorough thirst for truth; & u have helluva a work ethic when comes to your research. Hopefully Good triumphs over Evil, & globalist elites dont force yall into the 'matrix' so they can enjoy their 'utopia'. U do U, boo-boo! thx bro.
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Brother, i sincerely am beginning to really enjoy your content & u are wise beyond your yrs. I dont intend any condescension, either. I am only 48 y. o. contractor/engineer (although i didnt complete my degree) former army airborne infantryman, papaw of a 3 y. o. grandbaby; a somewhat of political activist, researcher, & proud wearer of conspiracy theorist badge of honor these days. I grew up in a heavily dominant Baptist fam. So sick of the mal/dis/misinformation! So sick of watching our nationl that took 250 yrs to build, decimated in 2. 5! U cant trust the govt; cant trust science/academia; nor religion or even your parents (by default! I now have cancer in least 2 organs if not more. Thats not a doom n gloom outlook; its just what it is. however, id LIKE to have some 'TRUTH' prior to expired! But i genuinely wanted to give u some 'props' for your thorough thirst for truth; & u have helluva a work ethic when comes to your research. Hopefully Good triumphs over Evil, & globalist elites dont force yall into the 'matrix' so they can enjoy their 'utopia'. U do U, boo-boo! thx bro.
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murasakinebula4772
Particles are not existing in two places at the same time, it's just uncertain where they exist. It's not that we don't know, its actually physically uncertain. We only have a cloud of possibilities. We can narrow the possibility space in one value by observation, but then we will increase uncertainty in other value. For example by narrowing location cloud we increase the speed uncertainty.
Our intuition says we can know absolutely precisely something, if we have a sufficiently good measurement. But the precise reality is actually physically completely unknowable, until its already happened. Then it becomes your main field of study, dear author.
If you read this, know that not only young right-leaning US men watch you. I'm European lefties trans woman and I find your perspective interesting and educational, our tribes have to learn from each other and cooperate.
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Particles are not existing in two places at the same time, it's just uncertain where they exist. It's not that we don't know, its actually physically uncertain. We only have a cloud of possibilities. We can narrow the possibility space in one value by observation, but then we will increase uncertainty in other value. For example by narrowing location cloud we increase the speed uncertainty.
Our intuition says we can know absolutely precisely something, if we have a sufficiently good measurement. But the precise reality is actually physically completely unknowable, until its already happened. Then it becomes your main field of study, dear author.
If you read this, know that not only young right-leaning US men watch you. I'm European lefties trans woman and I find your perspective interesting and educational, our tribes have to learn from each other and cooperate.
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Letsplay222
Ugh. could only make it about 15 minutes into this one. The Schrodinger's Cat analogy is often misunderstood. There is nothing that indicates that consciousness creates reality. Rather, the act of measuring quantum phenomena requires the observer to physically interact with a previously closed system. That interaction forces the universe to 'decide' on the quantum state of what is being measured, where previously its state was only theoretical and could be in any of several states. The fact that the end observer is conscious has nothing to do with it, the universe would react the exact same way if the experiment were performed by a mechanical wind up doll. With such a great misunderstanding at the beginning of the video I am going to assume the rest of it is bunk as well.
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Ugh. could only make it about 15 minutes into this one. The Schrodinger's Cat analogy is often misunderstood. There is nothing that indicates that consciousness creates reality. Rather, the act of measuring quantum phenomena requires the observer to physically interact with a previously closed system. That interaction forces the universe to 'decide' on the quantum state of what is being measured, where previously its state was only theoretical and could be in any of several states. The fact that the end observer is conscious has nothing to do with it, the universe would react the exact same way if the experiment were performed by a mechanical wind up doll. With such a great misunderstanding at the beginning of the video I am going to assume the rest of it is bunk as well.
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ondrejzeman2432
I agree with the concept of reality being created by the perception of it, but I would be careful to tie it to quantum theory so much. When we talk about perception in quantum theory, what we really mean is interaction, it is just that we can imagine it better if we say there is a photon that travels into an eye and is perceived. Reality happens at the moment of the interaction and it has nothing to do with consciousness. Quantum mysticism has really very little to do with actual science and every serious theoretical physicist will tell you that (I know you said you don't believe experts but literally every expert agrees on this. It is generally not very wise I think to tie your philosophical beliefs to scientific theories, as the nature of them is to change.
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I agree with the concept of reality being created by the perception of it, but I would be careful to tie it to quantum theory so much. When we talk about perception in quantum theory, what we really mean is interaction, it is just that we can imagine it better if we say there is a photon that travels into an eye and is perceived. Reality happens at the moment of the interaction and it has nothing to do with consciousness. Quantum mysticism has really very little to do with actual science and every serious theoretical physicist will tell you that (I know you said you don't believe experts but literally every expert agrees on this. It is generally not very wise I think to tie your philosophical beliefs to scientific theories, as the nature of them is to change.
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mitjakocjancic2205
Immortality is a gift from God. We don't have an inherently immortal soul, and we don't reincarnate (unless you count the one time we'll be resurrected in the end, either for eternal life, or for judgement and fiery destruction. Don't let fallen angles drag you away from God. God is more powerful than fallen angels, but He gave us all freedom of choice. He wants to be with us so much that He came here and died a torturous death just so we would be able to be with Him forever, but it's up to us to decide who to follow. There isn't a map of equal spiritual continents, there is one God with His good angels, and then there are fallen angels trying to make it all seem relative. Don't let them deceive you, Rudyard.
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Immortality is a gift from God. We don't have an inherently immortal soul, and we don't reincarnate (unless you count the one time we'll be resurrected in the end, either for eternal life, or for judgement and fiery destruction. Don't let fallen angles drag you away from God. God is more powerful than fallen angels, but He gave us all freedom of choice. He wants to be with us so much that He came here and died a torturous death just so we would be able to be with Him forever, but it's up to us to decide who to follow. There isn't a map of equal spiritual continents, there is one God with His good angels, and then there are fallen angels trying to make it all seem relative. Don't let them deceive you, Rudyard.
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LambdaCalculator
It's also worth noting that many of the ideas behind modern science don't derive strictly from Western rationalistic post-enlightenment thought like most people think either, but were actually heavily inspired by esoteric traditions and occult mystery schools. Those beliefs have frequently provided the underlying motivation for pushing certain science interpretations into the mainstream (such as the many worlds hypothesis and macroevolution) above others, despite data not strictly supporting them. The remote viewing research you dove into is only the tip of the iceberg. Movie Salt's video on 'Cern, the Simulation, and Many Worlds' is a good introduction to that rabbithole.
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It's also worth noting that many of the ideas behind modern science don't derive strictly from Western rationalistic post-enlightenment thought like most people think either, but were actually heavily inspired by esoteric traditions and occult mystery schools. Those beliefs have frequently provided the underlying motivation for pushing certain science interpretations into the mainstream (such as the many worlds hypothesis and macroevolution) above others, despite data not strictly supporting them. The remote viewing research you dove into is only the tip of the iceberg. Movie Salt's video on 'Cern, the Simulation, and Many Worlds' is a good introduction to that rabbithole.
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LambdaCalculator
I see you've read Fr Seraphim Rose's book on Nihilism. You should really consider reading his 'Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future' book if this is the rabbit hole you're going down. At the very least it should be useful in providing you with a solid grounding framework as you dive deeper into these sorts of topics, which can otherwise get out of hand and lead down questionable trails rather quickly, and perennialism can only get you so far.
And as a history buff, you'd likely also like Fr Seraphim's Orthodox Survival Course, which covers the development of Western thought (and it's dubious propositions conclusions) from an Eastern perspective.
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I see you've read Fr Seraphim Rose's book on Nihilism. You should really consider reading his 'Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future' book if this is the rabbit hole you're going down. At the very least it should be useful in providing you with a solid grounding framework as you dive deeper into these sorts of topics, which can otherwise get out of hand and lead down questionable trails rather quickly, and perennialism can only get you so far.
And as a history buff, you'd likely also like Fr Seraphim's Orthodox Survival Course, which covers the development of Western thought (and it's dubious propositions conclusions) from an Eastern perspective.
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FlorinManea-gy9kg
As I'd asked you before. what's your point on whatifalthist Rudyard Lynch
Regarding to the deep-looking subject
in talking about, do you here and feel where the gateways going open for
did you ever mastermind the new elite
set up in all
try along the frontline in Europe!
either the right or left side, alikely!
better as much intertwinning both!
You're both, too! You, America!
then just: America, FIRST / first AMERICA
- feel and tell to the world -
so Mr Lynch, ain't meaning smth on the very basis of whatifalthist
After finding out your saying, I'll take in consideration the invitation to comment! Thanks!
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As I'd asked you before. what's your point on whatifalthist Rudyard Lynch
Regarding to the deep-looking subject
in talking about, do you here and feel where the gateways going open for
did you ever mastermind the new elite
set up in all
try along the frontline in Europe!
either the right or left side, alikely!
better as much intertwinning both!
You're both, too! You, America!
then just: America, FIRST / first AMERICA
- feel and tell to the world -
so Mr Lynch, ain't meaning smth on the very basis of whatifalthist
After finding out your saying, I'll take in consideration the invitation to comment! Thanks!
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nickdranias695
We do know consciousness is defined by its focus on something other than itself -consciousness is consciousness of something. You are unconscious when there is no object of consciousness. So it is more logical that the objects of consciousness are prior to or independent of consciousness, at least to some extent. Consequently, the idea that consciousness creates reality is overstated and false. Consciousness is interacting with other external things, which are as much part of reality and as much contributing attributes to reality (maybe more, maybe less) as consciousness.
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We do know consciousness is defined by its focus on something other than itself -consciousness is consciousness of something. You are unconscious when there is no object of consciousness. So it is more logical that the objects of consciousness are prior to or independent of consciousness, at least to some extent. Consequently, the idea that consciousness creates reality is overstated and false. Consciousness is interacting with other external things, which are as much part of reality and as much contributing attributes to reality (maybe more, maybe less) as consciousness.
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lifeenjoyer411
16: 45 You are falling for a very widely spread misunderstanding of the experiment where matter changes behavior based on the observer. Basically the word observer doesn't refer to a conscious being that observes the experiment but instead anything that interacts with said particle. This can be a measurement device or even a single gas molecule that collides with the particle. This common confusion only exists because of poor science communication and has lead to some silly conclusions.
Source: I am studying chemistry and quantum physics is a mandatory subject.
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16: 45 You are falling for a very widely spread misunderstanding of the experiment where matter changes behavior based on the observer. Basically the word observer doesn't refer to a conscious being that observes the experiment but instead anything that interacts with said particle. This can be a measurement device or even a single gas molecule that collides with the particle. This common confusion only exists because of poor science communication and has lead to some silly conclusions.
Source: I am studying chemistry and quantum physics is a mandatory subject.
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chungusmaximus526
Maybe this video is a psyop lol C'mon man, I imagine the CIA is advanced, but I don't think they created the X-Men. I once contacted an opinion piece editor telling him that a certain prominent communist political figure was a CIA collaborator, but all the evidence pointed to the contrary. What I mean is, the more you delve into this stuff, the more it doesn’t add up. Every intelligence agency in the world uses smoke screen tactics to make the enemy think they're building interdimensional space lasers, the CIA is no different. Cool video though.
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Maybe this video is a psyop lol C'mon man, I imagine the CIA is advanced, but I don't think they created the X-Men. I once contacted an opinion piece editor telling him that a certain prominent communist political figure was a CIA collaborator, but all the evidence pointed to the contrary. What I mean is, the more you delve into this stuff, the more it doesn’t add up. Every intelligence agency in the world uses smoke screen tactics to make the enemy think they're building interdimensional space lasers, the CIA is no different. Cool video though.
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IvanTheHeathen
Science is never going to prove that God exists. That idea is based on a category mistake. God is not an empirical object that a scientific theory or experiment can point to. He’s much more fundamental than that. God is the ultimate precondition for all scientific understanding itself. He’s the reason why science is even possible in the first place, so He doesn’t depend on any particular scientific discovery. The proof the God exists has been around ever since people realized that it was possible to have a rational understanding of the world.
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Science is never going to prove that God exists. That idea is based on a category mistake. God is not an empirical object that a scientific theory or experiment can point to. He’s much more fundamental than that. God is the ultimate precondition for all scientific understanding itself. He’s the reason why science is even possible in the first place, so He doesn’t depend on any particular scientific discovery. The proof the God exists has been around ever since people realized that it was possible to have a rational understanding of the world.
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whatifalthist
I Practice Occultism/Magic and what you are describing are the Fundamentals in Magic. We believe in the Spirit World and that you can communicate with spirits telepathically with Your Emotions like you said. And that other Worlds/Dimensions Exist. We also believe that there are many kinds of Spirits Not Just Angels/Demons but also Elemental Spirits, Loa Spirits ect. And Magic is essential just Manifesting what you want via controlling energy with your Mind/Consciousness. Projecting your Will onto the Material World.
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I Practice Occultism/Magic and what you are describing are the Fundamentals in Magic. We believe in the Spirit World and that you can communicate with spirits telepathically with Your Emotions like you said. And that other Worlds/Dimensions Exist. We also believe that there are many kinds of Spirits Not Just Angels/Demons but also Elemental Spirits, Loa Spirits ect. And Magic is essential just Manifesting what you want via controlling energy with your Mind/Consciousness. Projecting your Will onto the Material World.
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williambeasley2084
This has little impact because people usually just ignore things that dont already agree with what they believe. those without religion generally have no base to understand this on, have no ability to see the relevancy, and no motivation to seek this information. people that follow Abrahamic religions would find this blasphemous. I am not very surprised at how unknown the information is. Amazing video though! I love the Monroe books and never realized that he had a relationship with the CIA.
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This has little impact because people usually just ignore things that dont already agree with what they believe. those without religion generally have no base to understand this on, have no ability to see the relevancy, and no motivation to seek this information. people that follow Abrahamic religions would find this blasphemous. I am not very surprised at how unknown the information is. Amazing video though! I love the Monroe books and never realized that he had a relationship with the CIA.
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yarinelmaliach1444
about you saying that we don't use all our brain power that is correct but misinformed, we never use all our brain power at the same time but we do use all regions of the brain in general I'm not sure if you are aware of that nuance so I wanted to point it out.
other than that I would really appreciate it if you upload a podcast video of you talking about those concepts with a expert neuro scientist since I'm not one and I'd like to see how your theories hold up against scrutiny
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about you saying that we don't use all our brain power that is correct but misinformed, we never use all our brain power at the same time but we do use all regions of the brain in general I'm not sure if you are aware of that nuance so I wanted to point it out.
other than that I would really appreciate it if you upload a podcast video of you talking about those concepts with a expert neuro scientist since I'm not one and I'd like to see how your theories hold up against scrutiny
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acem82
It seems like in any visit to the spirit world (this sounds like a dream state to me, but whatever, you'd have the problem of Cartesian doubt. How would you know if anything you were experiencing was actually true, or if you were constantly being lied to
Given that a common lie told today is all religions are true, it seems that's what the beings in the spirit world were saying. even though that's metaphysically impossible. So, my first response would be that those spirits are liars.
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It seems like in any visit to the spirit world (this sounds like a dream state to me, but whatever, you'd have the problem of Cartesian doubt. How would you know if anything you were experiencing was actually true, or if you were constantly being lied to
Given that a common lie told today is all religions are true, it seems that's what the beings in the spirit world were saying. even though that's metaphysically impossible. So, my first response would be that those spirits are liars.
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outerlast
disagree with the left-right brain thingy. the monkey brain stuff, in one interpretation means the emotional part, ie xin, not the mind, ie yi. and the division is the xin is in the heart while the yi is in the brain, instead of left vs right brain. and if you compare it, then we can see which one is left and which is right. in a more elaborate interpretation, you need to tame both the monkey and horse minds, thus reaching the center or balance.
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disagree with the left-right brain thingy. the monkey brain stuff, in one interpretation means the emotional part, ie xin, not the mind, ie yi. and the division is the xin is in the heart while the yi is in the brain, instead of left vs right brain. and if you compare it, then we can see which one is left and which is right. in a more elaborate interpretation, you need to tame both the monkey and horse minds, thus reaching the center or balance.
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wevii9043
Nah the quantum theory is like half fact half not (ironic, I’m not an expert either, but from my understanding the elementary particles, leptons I recon - quarks, electrons etc are proven to exist, we understand some of their behaviour, but there might be something even smaller or some vibration causing them to exist, which is funny in itself that this concept of vibration and energy pops up in science now, when it existed so long before us
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Nah the quantum theory is like half fact half not (ironic, I’m not an expert either, but from my understanding the elementary particles, leptons I recon - quarks, electrons etc are proven to exist, we understand some of their behaviour, but there might be something even smaller or some vibration causing them to exist, which is funny in itself that this concept of vibration and energy pops up in science now, when it existed so long before us
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