LGR - Kryoflux USB Floppy Disk Controller Overview
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Date: 2022-04-14
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sluggotg
Killer Video! My God how I wish we had access to this kind of power back in the 80's! But Then again, the Shitter Pirates would have used it to destroy software sales. (Trivia. back in the 80's, how many after market pieces of software. On Average. Was purchased for the Atari ST in Italy? The Answer: two. (That is was Atari put out back then. The mass Pirating destroyed the market back in the day. . And I was one of the shitters that did that. I purchased my C64 back in 1985. I was in the Navy on the Enterprise, (CVN-65. I knew absolutely nothing about copying disks. 6 months later I had the largest Pirated collection of anyone we could find on the Ship. ( But at least. I also purchased around 100 titles legitimately, (and hundreds more in later years off Ebay. But when I jumped to the Amiga in 87 I realized I was being a Parasite, so When I first purchased my Amiga, I did pirate a few dozen games, then I Reformatted the disks or purchased the game within a few months. To this day I have ONE Amiga Game that I pirated. I Pre-ordered Paradroid 90. They never sent me the game. so years later I found a Pirated copy and made a copy for myself.
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Killer Video! My God how I wish we had access to this kind of power back in the 80's! But Then again, the Shitter Pirates would have used it to destroy software sales. (Trivia. back in the 80's, how many after market pieces of software. On Average. Was purchased for the Atari ST in Italy? The Answer: two. (That is was Atari put out back then. The mass Pirating destroyed the market back in the day. . And I was one of the shitters that did that. I purchased my C64 back in 1985. I was in the Navy on the Enterprise, (CVN-65. I knew absolutely nothing about copying disks. 6 months later I had the largest Pirated collection of anyone we could find on the Ship. ( But at least. I also purchased around 100 titles legitimately, (and hundreds more in later years off Ebay. But when I jumped to the Amiga in 87 I realized I was being a Parasite, so When I first purchased my Amiga, I did pirate a few dozen games, then I Reformatted the disks or purchased the game within a few months. To this day I have ONE Amiga Game that I pirated. I Pre-ordered Paradroid 90. They never sent me the game. so years later I found a Pirated copy and made a copy for myself.
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38911bytefree
Wil it work with C64 and C128 disk. I have planty of them and Cant make any copy with the 1541 to my PC because disk keep failing and the 1541 keeps knocking so hard on errors that eventually missalligns. And the 1571 is even more weak. It wont knock the heads but just go into error. The 1541 seems to be a bit better on that but the head knocking stoped me from copying the discs I got. Each time I tried one disk, I have issues. Drive is perfectly alligned and clean. The issue are the disk, they are too and too much time without any use.
I have the par port interface for copy. Not sure that will work on originals, but they there are just a few of them, so no issue. 95% are copies. Same issue with tapes. I can copy tapes to disk (via c64) and then disk into PC.
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Wil it work with C64 and C128 disk. I have planty of them and Cant make any copy with the 1541 to my PC because disk keep failing and the 1541 keeps knocking so hard on errors that eventually missalligns. And the 1571 is even more weak. It wont knock the heads but just go into error. The 1541 seems to be a bit better on that but the head knocking stoped me from copying the discs I got. Each time I tried one disk, I have issues. Drive is perfectly alligned and clean. The issue are the disk, they are too and too much time without any use.
I have the par port interface for copy. Not sure that will work on originals, but they there are just a few of them, so no issue. 95% are copies. Same issue with tapes. I can copy tapes to disk (via c64) and then disk into PC.
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Anders
That is some really funky stuff, going on right there. I can-t help but think that if the raw stream that came of one 1, 2 mb floppy is around 50 mb worth of data, could one, with the device and software available, manage to write that amount of data back to the floppy disk, using an unmodified drive?
I recall back in the day, making great copies of -warez- using a software called Central Point Backup. It too could do some funky low level stuff, and had a very clever method to compress archives, split volumes over several disks and even add extra disks for redundancy and updating the whole archive. I recon that they did something a bit like the provided software you got, to manipulate and modulate the stream.
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That is some really funky stuff, going on right there. I can-t help but think that if the raw stream that came of one 1, 2 mb floppy is around 50 mb worth of data, could one, with the device and software available, manage to write that amount of data back to the floppy disk, using an unmodified drive?
I recall back in the day, making great copies of -warez- using a software called Central Point Backup. It too could do some funky low level stuff, and had a very clever method to compress archives, split volumes over several disks and even add extra disks for redundancy and updating the whole archive. I recon that they did something a bit like the provided software you got, to manipulate and modulate the stream.
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Aquaferme134
Man, I still use 360k floppys regularly. to me they are simply an essential part of the retro-computing experience. I don't use them as permanent storage, but I regularly put stuff on them to run them on different machines. I also do alot of writing for a living and pure text does not take alot of space, so I use those retro computers and 360k disks for work as well. weapon of choice currently is word perfect 4. 2, and for basic data entry, lotus123. No multi tasking, no cluttered interface, perfection.
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Man, I still use 360k floppys regularly. to me they are simply an essential part of the retro-computing experience. I don't use them as permanent storage, but I regularly put stuff on them to run them on different machines. I also do alot of writing for a living and pure text does not take alot of space, so I use those retro computers and 360k disks for work as well. weapon of choice currently is word perfect 4. 2, and for basic data entry, lotus123. No multi tasking, no cluttered interface, perfection.
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Brian
Hi Clint, i want to say thank you for making all of your videoes and for taking me down the memory lane again and again.
Back when life was simpler and your only worry was what game to play.
When ever my PTSD, after tour to Iraq, decides to mess with my head, i always throws on some LGR, giving me happy thoughts and throwback to better times.
All the best in life to you, stay safe and positive!
From the bottom of my heart, thank you Clint, thank you.
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Hi Clint, i want to say thank you for making all of your videoes and for taking me down the memory lane again and again.
Back when life was simpler and your only worry was what game to play.
When ever my PTSD, after tour to Iraq, decides to mess with my head, i always throws on some LGR, giving me happy thoughts and throwback to better times.
All the best in life to you, stay safe and positive!
From the bottom of my heart, thank you Clint, thank you.
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Lee
Something that doesn't seem to have been mentioned. How does this work with copy-protection systems?
I remember reading about a copy-protection method where a part of the disk would result in different values being read on subsequent reads. The software (game) would then read this part of the disk multiple times. If the values were different, then the software was ok, if the values were the same then the disk would be deemed to be a copy and not run.
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Something that doesn't seem to have been mentioned. How does this work with copy-protection systems?
I remember reading about a copy-protection method where a part of the disk would result in different values being read on subsequent reads. The software (game) would then read this part of the disk multiple times. If the values were different, then the software was ok, if the values were the same then the disk would be deemed to be a copy and not run.
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RRW
You mentioned early in this video that before using this, you were thinking of using a USB floppy drive. Two questions:
1. Are there USB 5. 25- drives? I can't find any online.
2. Why don't people like 3. 5- USB drives? I admit I only started collecting recently started collecting recently and just have a few DOS/68K Mac floppies, but my USB drive seems to recognise most of what I put in it.
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You mentioned early in this video that before using this, you were thinking of using a USB floppy drive. Two questions:
1. Are there USB 5. 25- drives? I can't find any online.
2. Why don't people like 3. 5- USB drives? I admit I only started collecting recently started collecting recently and just have a few DOS/68K Mac floppies, but my USB drive seems to recognise most of what I put in it.
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sluggotg
I am really excited about my Kryo-flux. I have about 12 Amiga Games that I could never, Ever Make a Backup of. (such as Datastorm. I am thinking this will finally allow me to make backups of those weird titles and Go back and Backup all my other disks. (The last Time a Did a C64 backup marathon was in the mid 90's, ( Got to use the old -Bullseye- program to trounce some Rapidlok titles. !
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I am really excited about my Kryo-flux. I have about 12 Amiga Games that I could never, Ever Make a Backup of. (such as Datastorm. I am thinking this will finally allow me to make backups of those weird titles and Go back and Backup all my other disks. (The last Time a Did a C64 backup marathon was in the mid 90's, ( Got to use the old -Bullseye- program to trounce some Rapidlok titles. !
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Tommaso
I have a question, i really want to make a copy of my Ultima 3 disk for the PC as i know the disk wont last forever. i have had it since childhood and want to make workable floppy copies. Will this copy perfectly the type of disks that are self loaders that require no install. I know there is copy protection, will this be a problem, if not I am purchasing one right away. Thanks in advance!
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I have a question, i really want to make a copy of my Ultima 3 disk for the PC as i know the disk wont last forever. i have had it since childhood and want to make workable floppy copies. Will this copy perfectly the type of disks that are self loaders that require no install. I know there is copy protection, will this be a problem, if not I am purchasing one right away. Thanks in advance!
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Black
This reminds me of my video editing days when I turned every video into cd-r from vhs and even super 8 movies of years ago that was fun finding the right format to get the best results the super 8 turned out better then the originals reels plus I tied them all together to make a movie of sorts of related footage that was fun to do but it took tons of hours to make.
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This reminds me of my video editing days when I turned every video into cd-r from vhs and even super 8 movies of years ago that was fun finding the right format to get the best results the super 8 turned out better then the originals reels plus I tied them all together to make a movie of sorts of related footage that was fun to do but it took tons of hours to make.
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