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Things Movies Always Get Wrong About The Joker

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Things Movies Always Get Wrong About The Joker Super: Well the thing about the Joker is simple. There is no definite thing. It's not like DC has never been called out for having so many backstory of the guy and the answer was simple. Hes a enigma he was always meant to be. The blood like gangster of suicide squad could be as accurate as Heath Ledgers version. As far as loving chaos that's really the only definite backstory we will ever really get. This guy who was done almost as a joke became over the years a symbol for the darkest depths of the human mind. While at the same time became a insane guy that stayed at moms house at 30 or 40 while at the same time became a murdering madman bent on killing hundreds just to prove a point to batman. Truth is we still know so little about him that many go to the bloody Lego movies and use that joker as canon as well. But being honest many people like him becouse he is such a enigma. When Ledger did his famous retelling of his origin story in the dark knight in most movies that kind of in your face, we dont care lie would of made people upset. But in reality many loved it. Becouse it gave him a huge mystery. People either pretend to know who he actually is or they say that he needs to be more defined. But how well do far has that worked for batman? People now say that his origin story is boring and overdone. But in my opinion a super genius dressed as a bat with knowledge of advanced tech and every martial art known is far more interesting then a insane guy dressed as a clown. But on a psychological note really kind of shows you where society is at when theres more love for a criminally insane clown then the actual hero. Even with these two if you take away the insanity from both batman and joker and yes you have to be a little insane to dress like a bat and do all that. Then really for Joker you would have absolutely nothing interesting about him except gangster, or mamma's boy maybe really dont know. But with batman you'd still have every martial art, super genius abilities ext with Joker his only interesting trait at all is his insanity. Even the riddler would have more defining traits then him when stripped away. And that's the point becouse they knew people would love it. Even though hes definitely horrible when you really look at him all the way till now he has disfigured corpses, beaten his girlfriend Harley almost near death many, many times, which of course has been conveniently forgotten due to his newer popularity recently, he has murdered and mutilated men women and children. Remember what he did to Jason? He didnt just kill Robin he mutilated him severely to look like him even slitting his cheeks and torcered him for years and this is a boy by the way not a grown man at this point in time in a suit but a child. Which yes in one timeline he did die in others he didnt it's kind of confusing with him and dick as well. Not to mention gunning a women down in her own apartment and paralyzing her. Does that sound admirable, or mysterious or relatable to you? Of course not so it's a whole lot easier to bring in a cast for the movies that has none of that in them. I mean after all how many people would honestly raise there hands and say my favorite villain like to kidnap and mutilate little boys or my favorite likes to beat his girlfriend in a domestic rage for the simplistic and dumbest mistakes or my favorite guns down women in there apartment for a joke. The response to that would be good God man get some help. So they morphed him and changed him into this enigma of a character even more so that loves discussing philosophy and makes his relationship apperent goals for couples on halloween. But the truth is if you want to know why the Joker changed from what you remember read above that's who he actually is and what he was known for doing. Truth is what you described is not what he was what I mentioned us that's why they changed him especially now a days no one wants to see a abusive rage induced, child harming, madman weve got enough of that in the real world and it would be considered vastly politically correct if the old joker hit the screen. It would get more of a pushback then family guy and not the good of were kind of goofy so it fine kickback.
Date: 2020-07-14

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Comments and reviews: 9

Darla
Dark Knight, Suicide Squad and Joker all omitted Joker's iconic Smilex/Joker Venom, high-voltage hand buzzer and nitroglycerin exploding cigar, from Batman comics. Their Jokers don't even use chemical weapons! Only Jack Nicholson's Joker used them. I would go with a composite Joker with both comic book and conventional weapons and include Harley Quinn and Leto's criminal tattoos and grill, only with realistic evil gangster clown and teardrop prison tattoos. The comic book and Nicholson frozen face grin, Glasgow/Chelsea Smile/Grin, Leto's grill and Phoenix' pseudobulbar effect laughter are a winning and creepy combination. After Dark Knight and Joker, the clown makeup is more plausible than the perma-clown look. Phoenix's Joker has the most realistic origin. I like Dark Knight /Phoenix Joker with Nicholson's arsenal and their combined MOs.
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Dendrox
I want to see a sequel to the Joker movie (after it's success, they've actually made hints that they'd consider it. Imagine it taking place a few years down the road, Arthur has now fully accepted who he is, and he escapes the Asylum. Maybe even picks up his trade mark purple suit along the way. He then goes on another killing spree, but he is now the Joker for the entire movie and his killings are closer to how Joker kills in the comics. Even if they don't want to tie him to the DCEU and the Robert Pattinson movies, they make some reference towards the end of a man who is dressed as a bat. Arthur becomes obsessed with him and learns that Batman is in fact Bruce Wayne, which makes him even more obsessed. Then the credits role
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Andy
There's another aspect of the Joker that the Dark Knight nailed. He doesn't actually want to kill Batman. He's obsessed with him. Without Batman, the Joker loses the will to live. In a sense, the Batman is the only thing the Joker has ever actually loved. His attempts on Batman's life isn't at all about killing him but simply in his mind making Batman better. His kidnap and who to save scenario of Harvey Dent and Rachel is simply taking two people that Batman cares for and taking the one the means the most to him off the table, thus in his mind bringing him closer to Batman.
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rsine100
First, the 2019 film version of the Joker had a backstory that was very ambiguous. You can't tell which was true and which was just in his head. All the events in the film could've just as easily been BS and he was locked away in the asylum the whole time. Second, movies are different from comic books. They are different visual mediums. A movie is never going to be an exact interpretation of a comic book. If you want something that's one hundred percent comic book accurate, read the comic instead.
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Ghostsystem
Joaquin's Joker is a Joker that could actually happen. A person who could possibly exist who doesn't have any Mafia juice or what appears to be black magic in Heath's Joker. Joaquin's is a tragic Joker who was a product of Gotham's apathy. It's a good lesson about the harsh consequences of an overly apathetic self serving environment.
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gunxswordification
ok so you know the jokers backstory isn't a mystery right? thats just something people say because you cant understand that different writers do runs all the time and they have no requirement to write the same back story over time to the point now that its a running gag not that he has no backstory
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Khaos
In the Joker movie it shows a whole different Joker that just wanted to be a comedian but was rejected and beaten and makes everyone including Thomas Wayne look like an Asshole justifying Joker being a Psychopath.
And the Joker being revealed as Bruce Wayne's brother makes it even more sad.
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Fundus
Even after giving The Joker a standalone origin story movie, his mystery is still kept intact. Who's his father? Who knows. Whose his real mother? Who knows. Did anything in the movie actually happen? Who knows.
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Mathew
The dark knight had a poisoning in it! When the old commissioner gets poisoned in his office in front of Gordon and the jokers playing card was there! The joker poisons in the The Dark Knight!
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