Top 10 Things Only Adults Notice in Encanto
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Date: 2023-11-20
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niceguy169
I so identified with Luisa, especially Surface Pressure - I've started singing it at karaoke. I've always been the one to help people, I DO NOT get help. Then in 2020 I had to have my foot amputated, and suddenly help is a lot more helpful and necessary, and I am FAR less capable of helping. It's been quite the upheaval. I feel for Luisa, and I just about cry when the song ends and Mirabel just hugs and understands, something I never get in my life.
I note that decades ago, the movie would have ended with Mirabel finally earning her gift, one particularly great since she was denied for so long, like she had to earn it first. Today's hypersensitivity means instead we get a message of acceptance (which the main character didn't need to learn, the rest did, a much less satisfying message. Nothing REALLY changed. :) Come ON, she couldn't even get a real room of her own? Even without a glowy door? She's stuck in the nursery she's way too old for? Maybe she could have bonded better with the 3 other unpowered individuals - Abuela and the two husbands (and Abuela even gets a magic door.
BTW, I have a theory: I think their powers are related to their personalities. (I forget most names so I'll reference their powers. Kid Dolittle, Mirabel says beforehand he likes animals, I think she gave him a stuffed animal as a comfort thing in case he's denied like she was. His brother Metamorpho - he's SERIOUSLY supposed to be OLDER than Mirabel? I'd swear he was younger, between size and personality - probably had a talent for acting and imitating people/voices. The Listener was probably a terrible gossip, always eavesdropping (which is how Mirabel and her dad KNOW they're in trouble when she hears them. SuperBabe was probably an extra attractive child who developed an interest in flowers as an appropriately girly appropriate thing to like. Luisa was probably particularly active.
And the original 3, Mirabel's mom was probably particularly caring - like taking care of injured birds and such. Pepa was probably particularly emotional, probably prone to wild emotional swings. And Bruno was probably so perceptive he seemed psychic.
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I so identified with Luisa, especially Surface Pressure - I've started singing it at karaoke. I've always been the one to help people, I DO NOT get help. Then in 2020 I had to have my foot amputated, and suddenly help is a lot more helpful and necessary, and I am FAR less capable of helping. It's been quite the upheaval. I feel for Luisa, and I just about cry when the song ends and Mirabel just hugs and understands, something I never get in my life.
I note that decades ago, the movie would have ended with Mirabel finally earning her gift, one particularly great since she was denied for so long, like she had to earn it first. Today's hypersensitivity means instead we get a message of acceptance (which the main character didn't need to learn, the rest did, a much less satisfying message. Nothing REALLY changed. :) Come ON, she couldn't even get a real room of her own? Even without a glowy door? She's stuck in the nursery she's way too old for? Maybe she could have bonded better with the 3 other unpowered individuals - Abuela and the two husbands (and Abuela even gets a magic door.
BTW, I have a theory: I think their powers are related to their personalities. (I forget most names so I'll reference their powers. Kid Dolittle, Mirabel says beforehand he likes animals, I think she gave him a stuffed animal as a comfort thing in case he's denied like she was. His brother Metamorpho - he's SERIOUSLY supposed to be OLDER than Mirabel? I'd swear he was younger, between size and personality - probably had a talent for acting and imitating people/voices. The Listener was probably a terrible gossip, always eavesdropping (which is how Mirabel and her dad KNOW they're in trouble when she hears them. SuperBabe was probably an extra attractive child who developed an interest in flowers as an appropriately girly appropriate thing to like. Luisa was probably particularly active.
And the original 3, Mirabel's mom was probably particularly caring - like taking care of injured birds and such. Pepa was probably particularly emotional, probably prone to wild emotional swings. And Bruno was probably so perceptive he seemed psychic.
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Christian
I think Mirabel is the most special of all. She was chosen to be the protecter of the gifts. Think about it, if there was something wrong with the gifts someone who spends a lot of time in the house would notice first so who spends the most time at the house? The gifted are out there using their gifts to help, the citizens are out there living their lives and the people who married into the family probably stay close to their wives. Maybe the one member who doesnt have powers. And since the family will be losing powers theyd been relying on their whole lives they will be at a great disadvantage until they learn to compensate and improvise. But if someone spent their whole life improvising ways to compensate for powers they dont have the powers bing put at risk will only serve as added motivation and wont slow them down at all. So it would make sense to have one Madrigal without powers to protect the gifts and the family. Abuela was the first protector of the gifts but shes beginning to grow old and slow down in her age, so a new protector had to be chosen and Mirabel is the one the Encanto chose. Making Mirabel the most special one of them all.
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I think Mirabel is the most special of all. She was chosen to be the protecter of the gifts. Think about it, if there was something wrong with the gifts someone who spends a lot of time in the house would notice first so who spends the most time at the house? The gifted are out there using their gifts to help, the citizens are out there living their lives and the people who married into the family probably stay close to their wives. Maybe the one member who doesnt have powers. And since the family will be losing powers theyd been relying on their whole lives they will be at a great disadvantage until they learn to compensate and improvise. But if someone spent their whole life improvising ways to compensate for powers they dont have the powers bing put at risk will only serve as added motivation and wont slow them down at all. So it would make sense to have one Madrigal without powers to protect the gifts and the family. Abuela was the first protector of the gifts but shes beginning to grow old and slow down in her age, so a new protector had to be chosen and Mirabel is the one the Encanto chose. Making Mirabel the most special one of them all.
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Christian
Luisa isnt just relatable to older siblings and feminists. She loves her family and tries to do everything she can to help her family and keep them safe but things keep piling on and piling on and piling on and she, being a human being, starts to get overwhelmed but doesnt want anyone to know shes getting overwhelmed because she feels like that would be letting her family down which leaves her with this unbearable pressure lying just under the surface and that strikes a chord with a whole lot of people. She may be one of the most relatable characters Disney has ever created!
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Luisa isnt just relatable to older siblings and feminists. She loves her family and tries to do everything she can to help her family and keep them safe but things keep piling on and piling on and piling on and she, being a human being, starts to get overwhelmed but doesnt want anyone to know shes getting overwhelmed because she feels like that would be letting her family down which leaves her with this unbearable pressure lying just under the surface and that strikes a chord with a whole lot of people. She may be one of the most relatable characters Disney has ever created!
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Weirdo
Well technically, if Luisa knew her greek mytholgy she would have said Heracles rather than Hercules. Hercules is the roman version. Though, I do understand what they were trying to imply. Also, even if he didn't want to, it was probably best to finish the labors to atone to killing his wife and family after Hera drove him mad. So I suppose it does kind of make sens with the Luisa situation. And the background shows Heracles fighting in an arena of some sort, which is totally innacurate as he fought Cerberus at the gates of Hades. I'm just saying.
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Well technically, if Luisa knew her greek mytholgy she would have said Heracles rather than Hercules. Hercules is the roman version. Though, I do understand what they were trying to imply. Also, even if he didn't want to, it was probably best to finish the labors to atone to killing his wife and family after Hera drove him mad. So I suppose it does kind of make sens with the Luisa situation. And the background shows Heracles fighting in an arena of some sort, which is totally innacurate as he fought Cerberus at the gates of Hades. I'm just saying.
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Hailee
For the Camilo part. He doesnt just help the mother. He tries to help Mirabel in getting the candle AND in the we dont talk about Bruno song he catches her after he somehow makes her fall through the floor and cradles her (litterally) and when he shapeshifts out of Bruno he really gently helps her on to her feet. I love that Camilo amazingly even though he and mirabel dont really have the bond they used to have he still loves her and helps her and is really gentle with her when he could have just thrown her on the floor. Or dropped her
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For the Camilo part. He doesnt just help the mother. He tries to help Mirabel in getting the candle AND in the we dont talk about Bruno song he catches her after he somehow makes her fall through the floor and cradles her (litterally) and when he shapeshifts out of Bruno he really gently helps her on to her feet. I love that Camilo amazingly even though he and mirabel dont really have the bond they used to have he still loves her and helps her and is really gentle with her when he could have just thrown her on the floor. Or dropped her
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Schweighsr
In Waiting on a Miracle, Mirabel sings that she will move the mountains - and she does, with the earthquake that opens up a crack in the mountains isolating the Encanto. She will make new trees and flowers grow - and she does, by freeing Isabella from her perfectionism. She will heal what is broken - and she does by accepting Abuela's pain. She will show this family something new - and she shows them how to accept themselves, and to accept that Mirabel really does have a special gift. It is great foreshadowing.
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In Waiting on a Miracle, Mirabel sings that she will move the mountains - and she does, with the earthquake that opens up a crack in the mountains isolating the Encanto. She will make new trees and flowers grow - and she does, by freeing Isabella from her perfectionism. She will heal what is broken - and she does by accepting Abuela's pain. She will show this family something new - and she shows them how to accept themselves, and to accept that Mirabel really does have a special gift. It is great foreshadowing.
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Georgie
Any word can be a swear word, just depends on how you use it. I've yelled Motherless Goat Nuggets when hurting myself as my brand of cursing. Or Snapdragons even. Shoot, people call others an A or a B, simple letters, but I bet everyone knows what the swear is. Not much of a stretch using a day as one too. Next person who says Whatever! during an argument or a snarky moment, could be considered as to be swearing. Basically, we all have potty mouths, just some of us get a laugh over others.
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Any word can be a swear word, just depends on how you use it. I've yelled Motherless Goat Nuggets when hurting myself as my brand of cursing. Or Snapdragons even. Shoot, people call others an A or a B, simple letters, but I bet everyone knows what the swear is. Not much of a stretch using a day as one too. Next person who says Whatever! during an argument or a snarky moment, could be considered as to be swearing. Basically, we all have potty mouths, just some of us get a laugh over others.
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Kelsey
Fun thing about Bruno's little rituals: they're all charms for good luck or for warding away bad luck. Crossing your fingers and holding your breath, tossing salt or sugar over your shoulder, knocking on wood. Everybody blames him when he foretells something bad and it happens, so of course he internalizes it. If everything bad is his fault, then these little rituals are him doing every small thing he can to keep the bad luck away.
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Fun thing about Bruno's little rituals: they're all charms for good luck or for warding away bad luck. Crossing your fingers and holding your breath, tossing salt or sugar over your shoulder, knocking on wood. Everybody blames him when he foretells something bad and it happens, so of course he internalizes it. If everything bad is his fault, then these little rituals are him doing every small thing he can to keep the bad luck away.
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Calamity
An interesting list, but some of these are seriously underestimating children, unless this list is only referring to toddlers. Children can absolutely identify Pepa's anxiety and Mirabel's sadness/longing. And I'm pretty sure most schools teach at least the highlights of Greek mythology in elementary school (my school taught it somewhere between 4th-6th grade, it's been a long time now so I don't remember exactly which grade.
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An interesting list, but some of these are seriously underestimating children, unless this list is only referring to toddlers. Children can absolutely identify Pepa's anxiety and Mirabel's sadness/longing. And I'm pretty sure most schools teach at least the highlights of Greek mythology in elementary school (my school taught it somewhere between 4th-6th grade, it's been a long time now so I don't remember exactly which grade.
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Swiftie
What?
I'm not an adult yet but I can totally relate to Luisa, and the pressure she's under.
Camilo may be prone to playing jokes, but he's also really and helpful.
I'm really into greek mythology, so I noticed when Luisa used greek mythology as examples, and my 10yo cousin asked if the boat was the Titanic.
I recognized all the devices mentioned
jusssst saying.
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What?
I'm not an adult yet but I can totally relate to Luisa, and the pressure she's under.
Camilo may be prone to playing jokes, but he's also really and helpful.
I'm really into greek mythology, so I noticed when Luisa used greek mythology as examples, and my 10yo cousin asked if the boat was the Titanic.
I recognized all the devices mentioned
jusssst saying.
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cert2b
Something else that my wife and I laughed at was also during the scene with Mirabel and Bruno. But in the last card during the Novella card two cards after the futball match one, in a almost typical nod to those types of shows a rat climbs through and rans off where the female figure was, only to be immediately replaced by another rat in poking through the female face.
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Something else that my wife and I laughed at was also during the scene with Mirabel and Bruno. But in the last card during the Novella card two cards after the futball match one, in a almost typical nod to those types of shows a rat climbs through and rans off where the female figure was, only to be immediately replaced by another rat in poking through the female face.
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Evyncxx
i am not even close to adult age but i noticed something else when luisa was on the titanic, behind her the donkeys were playing string instruments, a reference to the titanic movie where a group of people played string instruments to calm people down. im not sure if this was also a hint that luisa needed to calm down or if it was just a fun little easter egg.
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i am not even close to adult age but i noticed something else when luisa was on the titanic, behind her the donkeys were playing string instruments, a reference to the titanic movie where a group of people played string instruments to calm people down. im not sure if this was also a hint that luisa needed to calm down or if it was just a fun little easter egg.
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fanjoy
When Bruno saids Their Love could never be, I also noticed when he said this
Bruno: Well, because shes his aunt and she has amnesia so she cant remember that shes his aunt. Its like a very forbidden kind of. then Mirabel cuts it off.
I kinda had a bit of an off feeling when he said that especially saying this to his Niece after all these years.
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When Bruno saids Their Love could never be, I also noticed when he said this
Bruno: Well, because shes his aunt and she has amnesia so she cant remember that shes his aunt. Its like a very forbidden kind of. then Mirabel cuts it off.
I kinda had a bit of an off feeling when he said that especially saying this to his Niece after all these years.
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Blue
One thing I noticed that most children would not is the change in Augustin's outward affect after Mirabel's hand is cured by his wife. When Mirabel leaves after their talk, he feels he did a good job and his daughter will be fine now. Then he glances at his wife and sees she is concerned and so his outward affect changes to concern for his daughter.
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One thing I noticed that most children would not is the change in Augustin's outward affect after Mirabel's hand is cured by his wife. When Mirabel leaves after their talk, he feels he did a good job and his daughter will be fine now. Then he glances at his wife and sees she is concerned and so his outward affect changes to concern for his daughter.
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kai
one moment I love is during Isabela's part in We Don't Talk about Bruno as she's coming down from the vine swing everyones doing this hand gesture towards her and right at someday be mine Mirabel can be seen hands crossed with the most hilarious face! she is so irked and over Isabela being this princess lol I love seeing it every time!
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one moment I love is during Isabela's part in We Don't Talk about Bruno as she's coming down from the vine swing everyones doing this hand gesture towards her and right at someday be mine Mirabel can be seen hands crossed with the most hilarious face! she is so irked and over Isabela being this princess lol I love seeing it every time!
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Skye
lol, I'd say many of these definitely aren't exclusive to adults, but the one that I feel is the most inaccurate is the greek mythology point. every adult I know doesn't know anything about greek mythology outside of Disney's Hercules (which is a horrible reference for mythology) but i've been obsessed with it since elementary school
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lol, I'd say many of these definitely aren't exclusive to adults, but the one that I feel is the most inaccurate is the greek mythology point. every adult I know doesn't know anything about greek mythology outside of Disney's Hercules (which is a horrible reference for mythology) but i've been obsessed with it since elementary school
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Dana
Everyone made a big deal about Mirabelle not having a power, but Abuela didn't have one either. I always figured Mirabelle's gift was that she was the family glue. Casita didn't start to crack until Mirabelle started feeling on the outside of the family and was going to strike out on her own. I think she's Abuela's successor.
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Everyone made a big deal about Mirabelle not having a power, but Abuela didn't have one either. I always figured Mirabelle's gift was that she was the family glue. Casita didn't start to crack until Mirabelle started feeling on the outside of the family and was going to strike out on her own. I think she's Abuela's successor.
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Adayla
The Hercules reference always really bothered me. Hercules was not sent to kill/fight cerberus. He was sent to retrieve cerberus. And the way he achieved this labour didn't involve fighting at all. He showed up in hell and hades was just like sure you can take my dog just bring him back home safe when you're done
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The Hercules reference always really bothered me. Hercules was not sent to kill/fight cerberus. He was sent to retrieve cerberus. And the way he achieved this labour didn't involve fighting at all. He showed up in hell and hades was just like sure you can take my dog just bring him back home safe when you're done
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Jane
Well, when the Casita represents the familie, Mirabel was the first, who saw the problems (crack) and then her gift is that she was able to face the problem and build new, healthy connections with everyone helping. Which might be the most amazing part, the others didnt want to face their problems at the beginning.
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Well, when the Casita represents the familie, Mirabel was the first, who saw the problems (crack) and then her gift is that she was able to face the problem and build new, healthy connections with everyone helping. Which might be the most amazing part, the others didnt want to face their problems at the beginning.
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Lyra
One thing that most people dont catch is that because Mirabel wasnt given a gift, she doesnt actually have a room of her own. She sleeps in the nursery with Antonio until he gets his gift, leaving her to be alone again until the next child is born. She doesnt even have her own space like everyone else does.
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One thing that most people dont catch is that because Mirabel wasnt given a gift, she doesnt actually have a room of her own. She sleeps in the nursery with Antonio until he gets his gift, leaving her to be alone again until the next child is born. She doesnt even have her own space like everyone else does.
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Vanessa
Luisa is by far my favorite character. I am actually a younger sibling, but I completely relate to trying not to buckle under the weight of the expectations of the world. Also, I was often pressured to be the perfect, well-behaved child because my older brother was an absolute terror!
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Luisa is by far my favorite character. I am actually a younger sibling, but I completely relate to trying not to buckle under the weight of the expectations of the world. Also, I was often pressured to be the perfect, well-behaved child because my older brother was an absolute terror!
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David
I got a bit of a smile when Mirabel's dad, upon finding the broken prediction, tells Mirabel, No one has to know. I think this was a deliberate homage to the song Nobody Needs To Know from The Last Five Years (which Lin-Manuel Miranda also quoted in the song Say No To This in Hamilton.
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I got a bit of a smile when Mirabel's dad, upon finding the broken prediction, tells Mirabel, No one has to know. I think this was a deliberate homage to the song Nobody Needs To Know from The Last Five Years (which Lin-Manuel Miranda also quoted in the song Say No To This in Hamilton.
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Maritza
I think the scene with the mice actors was also a nod to Gabriel Garcia Marquez Hundred Years of Solitude in which there was a relationship between the aunt and nephew. I don't remember the names. Aureliano and his aunt Amarantha maybe
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I think the scene with the mice actors was also a nod to Gabriel Garcia Marquez Hundred Years of Solitude in which there was a relationship between the aunt and nephew. I don't remember the names. Aureliano and his aunt Amarantha maybe
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STAR
My fave part is when Deloris and Mariano finally get together and hes already trying to get married and she says Slow Down! Or the fact that she is unfazed about him wanting 5 babies! Deloris is more than ready for all of Mariano!
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My fave part is when Deloris and Mariano finally get together and hes already trying to get married and she says Slow Down! Or the fact that she is unfazed about him wanting 5 babies! Deloris is more than ready for all of Mariano!
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Ace
My reading of Pepa's gift is that you can see a lot of toxic positivity when you watch the movie. She's constantly trying to only be happy, and to not have any negative thoughts/emotions, lest she cause a hurricane or blizzard.
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My reading of Pepa's gift is that you can see a lot of toxic positivity when you watch the movie. She's constantly trying to only be happy, and to not have any negative thoughts/emotions, lest she cause a hurricane or blizzard.
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Lia_50
We watched enchanting this year in Spanish and my Spanish teacher is actually from Colombia and she taught us about all the little details and history that went into the movie it w Gerry interesting to learn about
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We watched enchanting this year in Spanish and my Spanish teacher is actually from Colombia and she taught us about all the little details and history that went into the movie it w Gerry interesting to learn about
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Linaxtic
I did miss the miercoles joke at first but I do love that it seems to be a cross cultural thing for adults to do PG subsitutes for swearing. My mom used to say Son of a biscuit-eater or Sugar
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I did miss the miercoles joke at first but I do love that it seems to be a cross cultural thing for adults to do PG subsitutes for swearing. My mom used to say Son of a biscuit-eater or Sugar
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Katie
I think the initial comments on Luisa are so shallow. she's not an I don't need a man character, she's someone who is expected to be strong and is internally buckling under the pressure.
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I think the initial comments on Luisa are so shallow. she's not an I don't need a man character, she's someone who is expected to be strong and is internally buckling under the pressure.
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Aimee
One of the biggest tip off's for the placement of this movie is the chatelaine that Alma wears. She is the only one wearing one and they went out of style in the early 20th century.
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One of the biggest tip off's for the placement of this movie is the chatelaine that Alma wears. She is the only one wearing one and they went out of style in the early 20th century.
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fanjoy
The Miercoles bit is actually true for a lot of Latin America. I still do it sometimes when there's kids around because last thing I need is teaching kids to swear in Spanish.
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The Miercoles bit is actually true for a lot of Latin America. I still do it sometimes when there's kids around because last thing I need is teaching kids to swear in Spanish.
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