Top 10 Things Only Adults Understand About Disney Villains
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Date: 2023-11-21
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Madison
I feel the Maleficent motive is more complicated than an honorable mention could explain. In medieval times, if an important figure, royal or noble, wasn't invited to something like the christening of a princess, the rejection tends to bite a bit more. Sure, Maleficent is the unabashed Mistress of All Evil, but King Stefan should have known better than to disrespect her like that. If she had been a mortal noble or royal neighbor, Stefan not inviting them could translate to, Hi, we're having a baby that could potentially rule the kingdom when we die, with whom you'll likely do business with in the future, but don't bother coming. You're not that important. This could set off plans to make trade more taxing on your kingdom, making life harder for your subjects, or even bring war to your doorstep. It's clear that everyone knows Maleficent and her powerful role in their lives, but not inviting her was like acting as if she didn't exist. At least she was gracious enough to give the king and queen the opportunity to act like it was an honest mistake that she hadn't received an invite, which is very unfairy-like if you know the original depictions of fairies. The slightest offense could get you cursed into oblivion, even with the most patient fey. This doesn't justify Aurora's curse in any way, but as king and queen, her parents had an obligation to maintain their relationship with Maleficent better. To top it all off, imagine the kind of gift Maleficent could have given Aurora. A fairy as powerful as the Mistress of All Evil probably had hundreds if not thousands to choose from.
Simply saying Maleficent cursed an infant because she wasn't invited to a party just doesn't do the circumstances justice.
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I feel the Maleficent motive is more complicated than an honorable mention could explain. In medieval times, if an important figure, royal or noble, wasn't invited to something like the christening of a princess, the rejection tends to bite a bit more. Sure, Maleficent is the unabashed Mistress of All Evil, but King Stefan should have known better than to disrespect her like that. If she had been a mortal noble or royal neighbor, Stefan not inviting them could translate to, Hi, we're having a baby that could potentially rule the kingdom when we die, with whom you'll likely do business with in the future, but don't bother coming. You're not that important. This could set off plans to make trade more taxing on your kingdom, making life harder for your subjects, or even bring war to your doorstep. It's clear that everyone knows Maleficent and her powerful role in their lives, but not inviting her was like acting as if she didn't exist. At least she was gracious enough to give the king and queen the opportunity to act like it was an honest mistake that she hadn't received an invite, which is very unfairy-like if you know the original depictions of fairies. The slightest offense could get you cursed into oblivion, even with the most patient fey. This doesn't justify Aurora's curse in any way, but as king and queen, her parents had an obligation to maintain their relationship with Maleficent better. To top it all off, imagine the kind of gift Maleficent could have given Aurora. A fairy as powerful as the Mistress of All Evil probably had hundreds if not thousands to choose from.
Simply saying Maleficent cursed an infant because she wasn't invited to a party just doesn't do the circumstances justice.
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Danielle
What Belle and Esmeralda have in common, besides their quick wits and compassionate natures, is that they're symbolic of something an oppressive society wants to stamp out.
1] In the former's case, Gaston says this outright in their first interaction: It's not right, for a woman to read. Soon, she starts getting ideas and thinking. Also, the townspeople take his words as gospel, because of the heavy implication that he's part of the wealthy class. As another iconic Disney villain would remind us the following year, Whoever has the gold makes the rules.
2] It's much wider-reaching for Esmeralda. Frollo believed that, if he could make her capitulate to what he believed were the highest standards for society, her people would follow suit and figuratively bend the knee to him. That's what burning her at the stake in the town square was all about. He could've done it privately, within the walls of the Palace of Justice, but he wanted the rest of her culture to lose hope, upon seeing her like that. It's a theme we see in several other literary and cinematic heroines and villains, like Voldemort and Harry Potter, or Katniss Everdeen and President Snow. Frollo also embodies a dark trait that both men and women can have. It's the idea that whatever you're feeling, and how you might hurt someone because of that feeling, isn't the real problem, but being called out for it IS. Internally, the antagonist of a particular situation is screaming at the protagonist, How DARE you make me feel guilty! How DARE you make me uncomfortable! It's YOUR fault! You're evil! (10/8/2023)
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What Belle and Esmeralda have in common, besides their quick wits and compassionate natures, is that they're symbolic of something an oppressive society wants to stamp out.
1] In the former's case, Gaston says this outright in their first interaction: It's not right, for a woman to read. Soon, she starts getting ideas and thinking. Also, the townspeople take his words as gospel, because of the heavy implication that he's part of the wealthy class. As another iconic Disney villain would remind us the following year, Whoever has the gold makes the rules.
2] It's much wider-reaching for Esmeralda. Frollo believed that, if he could make her capitulate to what he believed were the highest standards for society, her people would follow suit and figuratively bend the knee to him. That's what burning her at the stake in the town square was all about. He could've done it privately, within the walls of the Palace of Justice, but he wanted the rest of her culture to lose hope, upon seeing her like that. It's a theme we see in several other literary and cinematic heroines and villains, like Voldemort and Harry Potter, or Katniss Everdeen and President Snow. Frollo also embodies a dark trait that both men and women can have. It's the idea that whatever you're feeling, and how you might hurt someone because of that feeling, isn't the real problem, but being called out for it IS. Internally, the antagonist of a particular situation is screaming at the protagonist, How DARE you make me feel guilty! How DARE you make me uncomfortable! It's YOUR fault! You're evil! (10/8/2023)
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Hilla
As an adult who has experienced deep grief, I don't really sympathize with Callaghan. His desire to have revenge towards Krei is understandable but him not even attempting to save Tadashi from the fire or his willingness to murder his students in cold blood made no sense even if he was grieving. His transformation from a soft spoken polite professor who seemed genuinely interested in his students to a complete psychopath without any regard to anyone around him was way too radical to make sense. Unless he was only pretending in the beginning and was just hiding his true murderous self? But then why bother trying to give him a backstory with his daughter? His behavior makes no sense. It seems the writers were so focused on the supposed surprise twist villain aspect of him they forgot to make the progression in his behavior consistent. Shame since otherwise this movie is great. This is partially why I prefer unapologetically evil villains like Ursula or Maleficent to twist villains
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As an adult who has experienced deep grief, I don't really sympathize with Callaghan. His desire to have revenge towards Krei is understandable but him not even attempting to save Tadashi from the fire or his willingness to murder his students in cold blood made no sense even if he was grieving. His transformation from a soft spoken polite professor who seemed genuinely interested in his students to a complete psychopath without any regard to anyone around him was way too radical to make sense. Unless he was only pretending in the beginning and was just hiding his true murderous self? But then why bother trying to give him a backstory with his daughter? His behavior makes no sense. It seems the writers were so focused on the supposed surprise twist villain aspect of him they forgot to make the progression in his behavior consistent. Shame since otherwise this movie is great. This is partially why I prefer unapologetically evil villains like Ursula or Maleficent to twist villains
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Dave
The Lion King was loosely based on the story of Hamlet, the Nazi imagery were included to reinforce the evil nature of the villain, his actions and motives were not based on Adolf.
And here's a fun little fan theory about Gaston,
Given that the tale takes place in pre revolutionary France Belle may very well have been better off marrying Gaston, when the peasant revolt occurred Prince Adam and Belle would have been one of the first to face the guillotine, her life with Gaston would have been as dull as Gaston said it would be, but given his standing in the community it's highly unlikely that he or his family would have been targeted by the revolutionaries. It's also worth noting that much of France was starving but Gaston is an accomplished hunter, so Belle and her children would not have suffered.
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The Lion King was loosely based on the story of Hamlet, the Nazi imagery were included to reinforce the evil nature of the villain, his actions and motives were not based on Adolf.
And here's a fun little fan theory about Gaston,
Given that the tale takes place in pre revolutionary France Belle may very well have been better off marrying Gaston, when the peasant revolt occurred Prince Adam and Belle would have been one of the first to face the guillotine, her life with Gaston would have been as dull as Gaston said it would be, but given his standing in the community it's highly unlikely that he or his family would have been targeted by the revolutionaries. It's also worth noting that much of France was starving but Gaston is an accomplished hunter, so Belle and her children would not have suffered.
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vayoha02
For neyw it's always Scar. Nothing trumps getting taken out by your own brother!
Even as a kid, I knew Gaston was audacious. He showed up to her house dressed in a wedding outfit like Belle was going to marry him THAT DAY! When she clearly didn't like him! I always found that weird as a child
The hunchback, you're not going to pick up on those vibes as a child. Frollo was yearning for Esmeralda. His song Hell's fire is considered the most adult song in Disney anyway. In that song he clearly said, this burning desire.
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For neyw it's always Scar. Nothing trumps getting taken out by your own brother!
Even as a kid, I knew Gaston was audacious. He showed up to her house dressed in a wedding outfit like Belle was going to marry him THAT DAY! When she clearly didn't like him! I always found that weird as a child
The hunchback, you're not going to pick up on those vibes as a child. Frollo was yearning for Esmeralda. His song Hell's fire is considered the most adult song in Disney anyway. In that song he clearly said, this burning desire.
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Good
Congratulations or not so congratulations to Gaston! Who knew he only likes Belle for her looks? Shame on him. Hes a loser. Here are some more things only adults understand about Disney villains.
Lady Tremaines mistreatment - Cinderella
The Evil Queens attempted murder - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Mr. Sykes greed - Oliver & Company
Mr. Waternoose and Randalls plot to kidnap children - Monsters Inc.
Cruellas obsession of dalmatians - 101 Dalmatians
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Congratulations or not so congratulations to Gaston! Who knew he only likes Belle for her looks? Shame on him. Hes a loser. Here are some more things only adults understand about Disney villains.
Lady Tremaines mistreatment - Cinderella
The Evil Queens attempted murder - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Mr. Sykes greed - Oliver & Company
Mr. Waternoose and Randalls plot to kidnap children - Monsters Inc.
Cruellas obsession of dalmatians - 101 Dalmatians
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Brandon
When I rewatched Beauty and the Beast as an adult, it made me think about something: I dont think it was Belles looks that attracted Gaston, but her lack of interest in him and her love of books that attract him. He wants to marry her because shes someone he wants to change for what HE believes is the better.
When it comes to looks, while I do find Belle beautiful, I find the triplets more beautiful.
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When I rewatched Beauty and the Beast as an adult, it made me think about something: I dont think it was Belles looks that attracted Gaston, but her lack of interest in him and her love of books that attract him. He wants to marry her because shes someone he wants to change for what HE believes is the better.
When it comes to looks, while I do find Belle beautiful, I find the triplets more beautiful.
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Queen
I feel like the full terror that is Lady Tremaine should be in here. A lot of kids don't realize that how she treats Cinderella actually happens in the real world. Not just terrible step-mothers, but there are mothers who treat their biological kids like that. (Not saying I was, but in the original Cinderella, her father never really died and actually partook in the mistreatment of his own daughter)
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I feel like the full terror that is Lady Tremaine should be in here. A lot of kids don't realize that how she treats Cinderella actually happens in the real world. Not just terrible step-mothers, but there are mothers who treat their biological kids like that. (Not saying I was, but in the original Cinderella, her father never really died and actually partook in the mistreatment of his own daughter)
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misspinkpunkykat
Even as a kid, I was on Sher Kahn's side. Still, was hoping maybe he'd come around in the end and see Mowgli as an ally for animals. Actually that wouldn't be a bad movie itself. Maybe Mowgli tells his grandchild about his times growing up in the jungle with the animals and the grandchild grows up to become a zoologist or veterinarian and become an animal ally.
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Even as a kid, I was on Sher Kahn's side. Still, was hoping maybe he'd come around in the end and see Mowgli as an ally for animals. Actually that wouldn't be a bad movie itself. Maybe Mowgli tells his grandchild about his times growing up in the jungle with the animals and the grandchild grows up to become a zoologist or veterinarian and become an animal ally.
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Jamie
A bit ridiculous to start this off with Yzma joke about how she practically raised Kuzco, so how could he have turned out like this. Tho even Kronk sees her bad traits in him. To turn around, and throw in that she was secretly in the right is absurd. I won't be watching this chan ever again. Was on the fence before this. Now I know for sure it's not for me.
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A bit ridiculous to start this off with Yzma joke about how she practically raised Kuzco, so how could he have turned out like this. Tho even Kronk sees her bad traits in him. To turn around, and throw in that she was secretly in the right is absurd. I won't be watching this chan ever again. Was on the fence before this. Now I know for sure it's not for me.
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Ashley
I read a fanfiction once where Gaston actually rapes Belle, and it's really not that surprising given how. let's just say, persistent, he is in the movie
I remember watching the lion king when I was a kid and thinking the hyenas reminded me of military during the Be Prepared song. Never knew why until I learned it was to represent the Nazis
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I read a fanfiction once where Gaston actually rapes Belle, and it's really not that surprising given how. let's just say, persistent, he is in the movie
I remember watching the lion king when I was a kid and thinking the hyenas reminded me of military during the Be Prepared song. Never knew why until I learned it was to represent the Nazis
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Eric
No This Is Wrong, Shere Khan The Tiger Is
Not A Villain Or A Hero.
He's A Unify Anti-Hero And
Anti-Villain So Please
Walt Disney Universe Turn Both Jafar And Shere Khan
Into A Current Daring Lonesome Allies So That
Them Two Can No Longer Become The Enemies To All
The Heroes And
Not The Villains.
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No This Is Wrong, Shere Khan The Tiger Is
Not A Villain Or A Hero.
He's A Unify Anti-Hero And
Anti-Villain So Please
Walt Disney Universe Turn Both Jafar And Shere Khan
Into A Current Daring Lonesome Allies So That
Them Two Can No Longer Become The Enemies To All
The Heroes And
Not The Villains.
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nager
Yeah as a kid Frollo was just a bad man doing bad things.
But when I hit the age of understanding.
I was like holy shit this villain is evil, crazy and horny.
(He scared me that much as a kid, that I actually spat at the vicar who was visiting my primary school. I got sent home for a week for that)
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Yeah as a kid Frollo was just a bad man doing bad things.
But when I hit the age of understanding.
I was like holy shit this villain is evil, crazy and horny.
(He scared me that much as a kid, that I actually spat at the vicar who was visiting my primary school. I got sent home for a week for that)
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squarebear619
I always understood Shan Yu and what his army would do and exactly what war and pillage consists of. Which is why my fave Disney Princess is Mulan because she destroyed his entire army solo plus ended him too. Only princess with multiple bodies to her name, lol. No mercy.
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I always understood Shan Yu and what his army would do and exactly what war and pillage consists of. Which is why my fave Disney Princess is Mulan because she destroyed his entire army solo plus ended him too. Only princess with multiple bodies to her name, lol. No mercy.
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TheBoboTheIceMan
It wasn't about not being invited, it was about being snubbed, they ignored her The Most Powerful Evil Being in their area, but then turned around and invited the 3 Fairies. It was tactless on the side of the Royals to not invite her.
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It wasn't about not being invited, it was about being snubbed, they ignored her The Most Powerful Evil Being in their area, but then turned around and invited the 3 Fairies. It was tactless on the side of the Royals to not invite her.
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Ellerion2
Just one smal mention: Captain Hook was a villain even BEFORE he came to Neverland and met Peter Pan. He was a pirate and thus a criminal.
He was always in feud with Peter Pan, whom he tried to kill even before getting his hand cut off.
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Just one smal mention: Captain Hook was a villain even BEFORE he came to Neverland and met Peter Pan. He was a pirate and thus a criminal.
He was always in feud with Peter Pan, whom he tried to kill even before getting his hand cut off.
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insa-ne
I consider The Hunchback of Notre Dame one of the best Disney movies, but I've only seen it as an adult, with being able to understand Frollos full motivation and being disgusted by that. I wonder how kids actually perceive him as a villain.
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I consider The Hunchback of Notre Dame one of the best Disney movies, but I've only seen it as an adult, with being able to understand Frollos full motivation and being disgusted by that. I wonder how kids actually perceive him as a villain.
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Matthew005
Gaston is the most common villian that you see in real life I have met guys who think and act like him so often it's scary and there are women who still fall for guy's like that and that's the real scary part about him.
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Gaston is the most common villian that you see in real life I have met guys who think and act like him so often it's scary and there are women who still fall for guy's like that and that's the real scary part about him.
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Benjamin
Gaston is well known to be the hero to the people as he protected the whole town or was a war hero depending on storyline. Either way an unknown monstsr deep in the woods is far more a monster than a self obssed jerk.
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Gaston is well known to be the hero to the people as he protected the whole town or was a war hero depending on storyline. Either way an unknown monstsr deep in the woods is far more a monster than a self obssed jerk.
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MrBegliocchi
Girls like belle dont exist anymore. Women say all day long they want nothing to do with men like Gaston but theyre the exact ones they always find themselves with in the end and then the story ends in tears
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Girls like belle dont exist anymore. Women say all day long they want nothing to do with men like Gaston but theyre the exact ones they always find themselves with in the end and then the story ends in tears
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Paul
I'm an adult and I'm English! I know F A about about Prince John, so I don't expect many adults to have understood the historical basis of Prince John in Disney's Robin Hood. still a great character though.
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I'm an adult and I'm English! I know F A about about Prince John, so I don't expect many adults to have understood the historical basis of Prince John in Disney's Robin Hood. still a great character though.
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Spuffy4RockyHorror
Scar is based on the real life Hamlets uncle
The lion King is Shakespeares Hamlet with lions
Hakuna Matata is to be or not to be in an upbeat way instead of a despairing depression
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Scar is based on the real life Hamlets uncle
The lion King is Shakespeares Hamlet with lions
Hakuna Matata is to be or not to be in an upbeat way instead of a despairing depression
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Tobbe9975432
Beauty and the Beast: Gaston is horrible to women and that is wrong.
Kids: Makes sense.
Adults: Oh my god! Im SHOCKED!
Sorry, but that is how some of this video comes off.
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Beauty and the Beast: Gaston is horrible to women and that is wrong.
Kids: Makes sense.
Adults: Oh my god! Im SHOCKED!
Sorry, but that is how some of this video comes off.
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MaybeNaught
Yeah, realizing Peter Pan only looks like a child is also realizing some old spirit is abducting children to stay with him, rather than a child leading other children on an adventure.
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Yeah, realizing Peter Pan only looks like a child is also realizing some old spirit is abducting children to stay with him, rather than a child leading other children on an adventure.
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SevenTailedWolf72
I just realized how badass it was when Trident blasted Ursula and she slammed against the wall but just laughed in his face when when the contract couldn't be destroyed.
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I just realized how badass it was when Trident blasted Ursula and she slammed against the wall but just laughed in his face when when the contract couldn't be destroyed.
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Sean
I love how they point out the one scene in which Scar is painted as a nazi, all the while ignoring the fact that the ENTIRE MOVIE was a blatant rip-off of Kimba, the White Lion.
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I love how they point out the one scene in which Scar is painted as a nazi, all the while ignoring the fact that the ENTIRE MOVIE was a blatant rip-off of Kimba, the White Lion.
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Drswag
John of England was what led to the Megna Carta which would be the foundation of Western human rights as well as bounding a head of state to the law of their country.
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John of England was what led to the Megna Carta which would be the foundation of Western human rights as well as bounding a head of state to the law of their country.
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Yahweh
The creepiest and most disturbing is A little girl will be missing her doll. we should return it to her.
After him, Frolo and Gaston are definitely the worst.
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The creepiest and most disturbing is A little girl will be missing her doll. we should return it to her.
After him, Frolo and Gaston are definitely the worst.
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Mike
Actually I sort of feel sorry for Captain Hook, he was a pirate, but getting his hand cut off and hunted down by a crocodile was more frightening then he ever was.
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Actually I sort of feel sorry for Captain Hook, he was a pirate, but getting his hand cut off and hunted down by a crocodile was more frightening then he ever was.
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Nathalie
As a kid Scar was my personal scariest villain, but now as a adult i would say Frollo 100%, the way he sniffed Esmeraldas hair just send shivers down my spine
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As a kid Scar was my personal scariest villain, but now as a adult i would say Frollo 100%, the way he sniffed Esmeraldas hair just send shivers down my spine
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