HW News - Intel 12900K & 12600K Specs, DLSS on ARM CPUs, DRAM Price Slowing, Steam Deck
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Date: 2021-07-22
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itech
On-chip liquid cooling would be the only viable solution for chip stacking, wouldn't it? I know AMD has been in the news off and on this year with headlines relative to chip stacking. If you're stacking cores on top of other cores, as in a CPU slab on top of another CPU slab for x2 CPU with all of it connected through Infinity fabric for example, would on-chip liquid cooling not be the only optimal solution for extracting heat from the lower or the cores? I know there's the possibility of using an intermediate IHS that ties into the main IHS, but with how much material would need to be removed, in fine detail I might add, to make chip stacking with an IHS feasible, I'm skeptical of how well an IHS would would compared to on-chip liquid cooling.
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On-chip liquid cooling would be the only viable solution for chip stacking, wouldn't it? I know AMD has been in the news off and on this year with headlines relative to chip stacking. If you're stacking cores on top of other cores, as in a CPU slab on top of another CPU slab for x2 CPU with all of it connected through Infinity fabric for example, would on-chip liquid cooling not be the only optimal solution for extracting heat from the lower or the cores? I know there's the possibility of using an intermediate IHS that ties into the main IHS, but with how much material would need to be removed, in fine detail I might add, to make chip stacking with an IHS feasible, I'm skeptical of how well an IHS would would compared to on-chip liquid cooling.
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Scott
But will the new 12th gen Intel CPUs actually be any better than Ryzen 3? Apparently they aren't going to be better in TDP once more, and in applications such as gaming, I can't see the small cores playing any significant part in performance, and I don't think that they will be enough to make up for the insane amount of power the 11th (and 10th to lesser extent) gen Intel CPUs consume to be able to compete with the 7 nanometer architecture from AMD... I thought that then changing their socket would finally see the death of the 14 nanometer Intel chip, and see actual, Watt/frame value compared to AMD.
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But will the new 12th gen Intel CPUs actually be any better than Ryzen 3? Apparently they aren't going to be better in TDP once more, and in applications such as gaming, I can't see the small cores playing any significant part in performance, and I don't think that they will be enough to make up for the insane amount of power the 11th (and 10th to lesser extent) gen Intel CPUs consume to be able to compete with the 7 nanometer architecture from AMD... I thought that then changing their socket would finally see the death of the 14 nanometer Intel chip, and see actual, Watt/frame value compared to AMD.
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Douglas
I still just use my R7 2700 (nonx). I don't play games because the new games just..... suck. Cyberpunk 77... nuff said. All I will play these days is civ 6 when i'm bored. Even that I get annoyed at.... because they won't let you run it thru geforce now. If they did I'd downsize. I think the new CPU's are pretty unnecessary for 90% of people. But they're new and shiny and carry bragging rights.
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I still just use my R7 2700 (nonx). I don't play games because the new games just..... suck. Cyberpunk 77... nuff said. All I will play these days is civ 6 when i'm bored. Even that I get annoyed at.... because they won't let you run it thru geforce now. If they did I'd downsize. I think the new CPU's are pretty unnecessary for 90% of people. But they're new and shiny and carry bragging rights.
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Algis-kun
Steve: Valve should make videogames... some people might like that
Me: Yea.... about that.... they made a VR game ,that is a bit of a niche market, and 2 Dota spinoffs that i don't think a lot of people really cared that much about. That in the span of the last 3 years
Maybe i'm just too picky about it but sometimes Steve's sarcastic remarks don't land with me....
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Steve: Valve should make videogames... some people might like that
Me: Yea.... about that.... they made a VR game ,that is a bit of a niche market, and 2 Dota spinoffs that i don't think a lot of people really cared that much about. That in the span of the last 3 years
Maybe i'm just too picky about it but sometimes Steve's sarcastic remarks don't land with me....
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Alan
On borrowing a Steam Deck to look at - 'We'll send it back with something else'. Is that something else some custom art made with a dremel?
Joking of course, I know you really appreciate viewers lending you hardware that you can't immediately get hold of. It's really cool some of the things people have let you look at.
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On borrowing a Steam Deck to look at - 'We'll send it back with something else'. Is that something else some custom art made with a dremel?
Joking of course, I know you really appreciate viewers lending you hardware that you can't immediately get hold of. It's really cool some of the things people have let you look at.
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Pitboy
So the Steam Room ... Deck ... Thing ...
Takes a stock 2230 Nvme.
What say manu's just started looking at making 1TB versions, knowing people are going to want them ... or even better, adaptors to port it out of the box to a 2280 card, and dropping a 4TB Sabrent in that.
... a cloning we will go
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So the Steam Room ... Deck ... Thing ...
Takes a stock 2230 Nvme.
What say manu's just started looking at making 1TB versions, knowing people are going to want them ... or even better, adaptors to port it out of the box to a 2280 card, and dropping a 4TB Sabrent in that.
... a cloning we will go
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VanBurenPhilips
Can someone tell me how the FIFA bots work? Does a bot run on each PS4? Or do the bots run on computers, each connected to several PS4s?
or (my favourite):
Is there an actual metal robot sitting in the manager's office, manually controlling 3800 Dualshock4s? I think it's this one.
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Can someone tell me how the FIFA bots work? Does a bot run on each PS4? Or do the bots run on computers, each connected to several PS4s?
or (my favourite):
Is there an actual metal robot sitting in the manager's office, manually controlling 3800 Dualshock4s? I think it's this one.
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Duy
So, I guess the Ukrainian Police did the raid so they can either extort money from the company or steal those ps4, which can be easily flipped. This kind of grey area industry is prime for them, my aunt got her life savings stolen from her safe, the SBU claimed the money was Illegal , BS.
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So, I guess the Ukrainian Police did the raid so they can either extort money from the company or steal those ps4, which can be easily flipped. This kind of grey area industry is prime for them, my aunt got her life savings stolen from her safe, the SBU claimed the money was Illegal , BS.
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Sina
Steve, you're a genius! I can't believe Valve hadn't thought of the idea of developing games to sell on Steam. Since they own the platform, they won't have to pay commission to themselves, and they could plaster their games on the Steam store homepage, so promotion takes care of itself.
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Steve, you're a genius! I can't believe Valve hadn't thought of the idea of developing games to sell on Steam. Since they own the platform, they won't have to pay commission to themselves, and they could plaster their games on the Steam store homepage, so promotion takes care of itself.
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Tuomas
God damnit Intel, you had the perfect opportunity to completely reset your naming convention to something actually comprehensible with this all new architecture, but instead you insist on naming that's as tedious as possible without slipping into monitor naming territory.
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God damnit Intel, you had the perfect opportunity to completely reset your naming convention to something actually comprehensible with this all new architecture, but instead you insist on naming that's as tedious as possible without slipping into monitor naming territory.
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