AMD Ryzen Frequency Scale - Temperature is Important for Ryzen 3000 CPUs
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Date: 2020-05-06
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JonsReef
Too bad my room is always hot, with 240 gallons of fish tanks, and being in the 3rd floor of my house my ambient is always really high lol. My cpu is usually at 4180-4200 all core on my 3800x, but in games its usually only running 2 cores and they tend to jump around 4200-4400mhz. I have never really seen 4500mhz on single core benchmarks, i might see 4516 for a blip of a second but usually its like 4486. Im using a duel 360mm radiator setup, and a EK water block with 2 reservoirs, but i also have my 1080ti on the the loop, but the 1080ti is after the cpu. With 6 fans on my radiators. With room being like 76-80f usually id say this isnt bad. If i open the window and it is winter time the room temp will drop around 72-71f, and i might get 30-40mhz more over the 4180-4200 but thats it. And to be honest 50mhz, even 100 mhz doesnt really do much for fps, the gpu like he said is the biggest upgrade one can do, or memory tweaking, increasing the fclock on the cpu to 1866 gave me over a 10fps improvement in some games. to where 100mhz on the cpu did almost nothing, Ive probably spent a good 600 on my cooling setup but it really wasnt to get the BEST temps i could, it was mainly for looking and more consistant temps then air cooling. Plus watercooling my 1080ti lowered temps from the 70-80c range to more 40-50c. Now that 1080tis are about 400 used, i suppose i could probably get a 2nd one, and another water block for it and do SLI, but i dunno if SLI is even viable today anymore
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Too bad my room is always hot, with 240 gallons of fish tanks, and being in the 3rd floor of my house my ambient is always really high lol. My cpu is usually at 4180-4200 all core on my 3800x, but in games its usually only running 2 cores and they tend to jump around 4200-4400mhz. I have never really seen 4500mhz on single core benchmarks, i might see 4516 for a blip of a second but usually its like 4486. Im using a duel 360mm radiator setup, and a EK water block with 2 reservoirs, but i also have my 1080ti on the the loop, but the 1080ti is after the cpu. With 6 fans on my radiators. With room being like 76-80f usually id say this isnt bad. If i open the window and it is winter time the room temp will drop around 72-71f, and i might get 30-40mhz more over the 4180-4200 but thats it. And to be honest 50mhz, even 100 mhz doesnt really do much for fps, the gpu like he said is the biggest upgrade one can do, or memory tweaking, increasing the fclock on the cpu to 1866 gave me over a 10fps improvement in some games. to where 100mhz on the cpu did almost nothing, Ive probably spent a good 600 on my cooling setup but it really wasnt to get the BEST temps i could, it was mainly for looking and more consistant temps then air cooling. Plus watercooling my 1080ti lowered temps from the 70-80c range to more 40-50c. Now that 1080tis are about 400 used, i suppose i could probably get a 2nd one, and another water block for it and do SLI, but i dunno if SLI is even viable today anymore
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SP
Okay, so as a dude with a watercooled rig with noctua fans and monoblock + 1 pump/res combo and a 280 rad, with a 2700x and gtx 1080 in the same loop that both OC in the top 1% of UserBenchmark, and with the understanding that you need to keep the 3000 series cpus below 60 degrees, = To keep below 60 you'll probably need a 1 rad & pump combo in a mid-large case for a 3700x alone. You can probably get away with adding a GPU to the loop but can't guarantee that the card won't make the CPU temps go up a few ticks during gameplay or post-production. = For a 3900x, you'll need to isolate a CPU loop with a massive 360-480 rad (or 2) with badass SP fans and a large case. These are so that you can keep both cpus below 60 degrees. It's expensive, but so is performance maximization in general. You're going to have a shitty time getting optimal overclocking results with air and AIO (unless you are in a room constantly in single figure temps celsius, so would not bother recommending this.
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Okay, so as a dude with a watercooled rig with noctua fans and monoblock + 1 pump/res combo and a 280 rad, with a 2700x and gtx 1080 in the same loop that both OC in the top 1% of UserBenchmark, and with the understanding that you need to keep the 3000 series cpus below 60 degrees, = To keep below 60 you'll probably need a 1 rad & pump combo in a mid-large case for a 3700x alone. You can probably get away with adding a GPU to the loop but can't guarantee that the card won't make the CPU temps go up a few ticks during gameplay or post-production. = For a 3900x, you'll need to isolate a CPU loop with a massive 360-480 rad (or 2) with badass SP fans and a large case. These are so that you can keep both cpus below 60 degrees. It's expensive, but so is performance maximization in general. You're going to have a shitty time getting optimal overclocking results with air and AIO (unless you are in a room constantly in single figure temps celsius, so would not bother recommending this.
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corndog
Yeah I'm glad I decided a while back to watercool with a custom Loop 480 mm and 360 mm RADS with D5 pump and reso. Then when I upgrade it to my 3900 X I already had all the hardware to cool my 1080ti and 3900x and I can see 4197 mhz all core boost while running the stability test in aida64 on stock settings on applications that utilize all cores but don't stress the cpu as much as a benchmark program I can see all core frequency at 4297mhz. Steve you were right Precision boost overdrive core enhancement and auto clock features do not really help. My CPU often hits 4591mhz on one or two cores just at stock in some applications. And enabling all those extra features doesn't really help. My 1080ti in this Loop does 2037 megahertz
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Yeah I'm glad I decided a while back to watercool with a custom Loop 480 mm and 360 mm RADS with D5 pump and reso. Then when I upgrade it to my 3900 X I already had all the hardware to cool my 1080ti and 3900x and I can see 4197 mhz all core boost while running the stability test in aida64 on stock settings on applications that utilize all cores but don't stress the cpu as much as a benchmark program I can see all core frequency at 4297mhz. Steve you were right Precision boost overdrive core enhancement and auto clock features do not really help. My CPU often hits 4591mhz on one or two cores just at stock in some applications. And enabling all those extra features doesn't really help. My 1080ti in this Loop does 2037 megahertz
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Jesse
This is so weak. why would AMD place so many walls in place to prevent you from running your CPU the way you want to? Seriously you need LN2 to even hit 4. 3 GHz reliably? These CPUs aren't even hitting their advertised single core boost clocks on the box with an AIO. Am I the only one that's seriously turned off by all of this? Should have just put in a safe temp shutdown in place and have us run wild and do what we want with our CPUs. Guess AMD was right when they said Ryzen 7nm is already at max performance with no headroom. Seriously disappointing.
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This is so weak. why would AMD place so many walls in place to prevent you from running your CPU the way you want to? Seriously you need LN2 to even hit 4. 3 GHz reliably? These CPUs aren't even hitting their advertised single core boost clocks on the box with an AIO. Am I the only one that's seriously turned off by all of this? Should have just put in a safe temp shutdown in place and have us run wild and do what we want with our CPUs. Guess AMD was right when they said Ryzen 7nm is already at max performance with no headroom. Seriously disappointing.
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Brian
My case with a thermal couple monitoring is usually between 21-25C depending on what I'm doing. It's a Corsair 540 Air with 7 140 Maglev fans, 2 of which I cut the plexi glass side panel and added in to blow on the GPU which helped a ton. Processor is a 2700k running at 5 ghz using the EVGA 280 CLC. I keep the house between 66-70 F depending on how I'm feeling that day so it really helps as well. I'm currently watching this video and playing They are Billions with the max CPU temp in HWInfo of 48C.
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My case with a thermal couple monitoring is usually between 21-25C depending on what I'm doing. It's a Corsair 540 Air with 7 140 Maglev fans, 2 of which I cut the plexi glass side panel and added in to blow on the GPU which helped a ton. Processor is a 2700k running at 5 ghz using the EVGA 280 CLC. I keep the house between 66-70 F depending on how I'm feeling that day so it really helps as well. I'm currently watching this video and playing They are Billions with the max CPU temp in HWInfo of 48C.
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kenneth
Hi. My I5 didn t fit to my new setup so had to buy a newer version of I5. Is it normal for a new cpu to hit 75-80 degree s when gaming? In my opinion the fan make s a weird noice, even my 5year old fan isn t like this. and it s really bothering to listen to this, It s making me crazy. Should I ask for a new one? I can t remember my old I5 even hit this kind of heat, and that was an 4th Gen. shouldn t a 8 Gen do better? this is making me nervous since I just bought everything new. Thank You: )
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Hi. My I5 didn t fit to my new setup so had to buy a newer version of I5. Is it normal for a new cpu to hit 75-80 degree s when gaming? In my opinion the fan make s a weird noice, even my 5year old fan isn t like this. and it s really bothering to listen to this, It s making me crazy. Should I ask for a new one? I can t remember my old I5 even hit this kind of heat, and that was an 4th Gen. shouldn t a 8 Gen do better? this is making me nervous since I just bought everything new. Thank You: )
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stevin47
one month+ before new ryzen release. the amd graphic's driver size increased alot jt seems odd, games at lower resolutions 1080p are using more of the cpu with the ryzen 3000 increaseing the FPS. ? increase resolution to 1440p and the fps difference between the 3000 and 2000 cpu's equal out? if ryzen 3000 hlps with increase fps 1080p why is it not the same at 1440p and no diff in FPS at all 4k. if its the cpu it should be the same across all resolutions. is it only driver optimization?
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one month+ before new ryzen release. the amd graphic's driver size increased alot jt seems odd, games at lower resolutions 1080p are using more of the cpu with the ryzen 3000 increaseing the FPS. ? increase resolution to 1440p and the fps difference between the 3000 and 2000 cpu's equal out? if ryzen 3000 hlps with increase fps 1080p why is it not the same at 1440p and no diff in FPS at all 4k. if its the cpu it should be the same across all resolutions. is it only driver optimization?
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stevin47
one month+ before new ryzen release. the amd graphic's driver size increased alot jt seems odd, games at lower resolutions 1080p are using more of the cpu with the ryzen 3000 increaseing the FPS. ? increase resolution to 1440p and the fps difference between the 3000 and 2000 cpu's equal out? if ryzen 3000 hlps with increase fps 1080p why is it not the same at 1440p and no diff in FPS at all 4k. if its the cpu it should be the same across all resolutions. is it only driver optimization?
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one month+ before new ryzen release. the amd graphic's driver size increased alot jt seems odd, games at lower resolutions 1080p are using more of the cpu with the ryzen 3000 increaseing the FPS. ? increase resolution to 1440p and the fps difference between the 3000 and 2000 cpu's equal out? if ryzen 3000 hlps with increase fps 1080p why is it not the same at 1440p and no diff in FPS at all 4k. if its the cpu it should be the same across all resolutions. is it only driver optimization?
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stevin47
one month+ before new ryzen release. the amd graphic's driver size increased alot jt seems odd, games at lower resolutions 1080p are using more of the cpu with the ryzen 3000 increaseing the FPS. ? increase resolution to 1440p and the fps difference between the 3000 and 2000 cpu's equal out? if ryzen 3000 hlps with increase fps 1080p why is it not the same at 1440p and no diff in FPS at all 4k. if its the cpu it should be the same across all resolutions. is it only driver optimization?
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one month+ before new ryzen release. the amd graphic's driver size increased alot jt seems odd, games at lower resolutions 1080p are using more of the cpu with the ryzen 3000 increaseing the FPS. ? increase resolution to 1440p and the fps difference between the 3000 and 2000 cpu's equal out? if ryzen 3000 hlps with increase fps 1080p why is it not the same at 1440p and no diff in FPS at all 4k. if its the cpu it should be the same across all resolutions. is it only driver optimization?
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RawSiafu
I have under volt my 3900x to 1. 18 4300 using the stock cooler and getting 3500 score with cinebench R15. Using 4x16GB 3200hz ram. I have four 3900x's and can do 1. 2 4200 on all of them stable with stock cooler. I haven't spent the time to push them yet. I am also getting temps at 70c to 80c under load. I plan to try with a kraken x62 later. Also to note on auto settings I get around 90c+, 1. 35v+, 4000-4100 so manually setting the clock/voltage I recommend.
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I have under volt my 3900x to 1. 18 4300 using the stock cooler and getting 3500 score with cinebench R15. Using 4x16GB 3200hz ram. I have four 3900x's and can do 1. 2 4200 on all of them stable with stock cooler. I haven't spent the time to push them yet. I am also getting temps at 70c to 80c under load. I plan to try with a kraken x62 later. Also to note on auto settings I get around 90c+, 1. 35v+, 4000-4100 so manually setting the clock/voltage I recommend.
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