Prototype 200mm CPU Cooler: Cooler Master 200mm CLC Benchmark & Review
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Maks
Actually the results are not at all surprising. You preconclusion that 200mm Fans have low static pressure because of their low rpm is just wrong. Static fan pressure is not something related to RPM. In fact it is related to Blade Speed. A 200mm Fan spinning at 750rpm has about the same Blade speed at the outer circumference as a 140mm Fan spinning at 1100 or a 120mm fan at 1300. Assuming everything else being equal, fin geometry, profile and distance. Also a 200x200mm Radiator has slightly more square area than a 280 140mm Rad. It is entirely not surprising that it performs so well. Since years, there are a few 180/200mm Radiators available, from the likes of magicool, phobya, etc. and i always knew they give the best noise/performance/space ratio. There are also some few 200mm or 180mm Fans optimized for static pressure, either through more and even overlapping Blades, or through higher thickness and stator vanes like the silverstone air prenetrator series. Also the Rad could either have less FPI to cope with slightly lower pressure fans, very much like the thermochill radiators of past times, or it could just be thinner, which also reduces drag. I think you will get the best space/performance ratio with a thin Radiator, combined with a medium pressure 200mm it can meet the performance of any 280 or 360mm watercooling while at the same time being more compact, more quiet and probably also cheaper.
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Actually the results are not at all surprising. You preconclusion that 200mm Fans have low static pressure because of their low rpm is just wrong. Static fan pressure is not something related to RPM. In fact it is related to Blade Speed. A 200mm Fan spinning at 750rpm has about the same Blade speed at the outer circumference as a 140mm Fan spinning at 1100 or a 120mm fan at 1300. Assuming everything else being equal, fin geometry, profile and distance. Also a 200x200mm Radiator has slightly more square area than a 280 140mm Rad. It is entirely not surprising that it performs so well. Since years, there are a few 180/200mm Radiators available, from the likes of magicool, phobya, etc. and i always knew they give the best noise/performance/space ratio. There are also some few 200mm or 180mm Fans optimized for static pressure, either through more and even overlapping Blades, or through higher thickness and stator vanes like the silverstone air prenetrator series. Also the Rad could either have less FPI to cope with slightly lower pressure fans, very much like the thermochill radiators of past times, or it could just be thinner, which also reduces drag. I think you will get the best space/performance ratio with a thin Radiator, combined with a medium pressure 200mm it can meet the performance of any 280 or 360mm watercooling while at the same time being more compact, more quiet and probably also cheaper.
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ShroudedWolf51
I would certainly be interested in a big, hefty CLC like the one featured here without having to buy some tiny, cramped case. While my H100i has served me well (getting ready to push eight years. holy shit, it's always bothered me how it's always just kind of sits in the middle of my case's 200mm fan mounts with a chunk of the 240mm rad being blocked off by a part of the case. So, yeah. When my H100i gives up the ghost, having the option of a big, bulky CLC like the 200mm one would certainly be a tempting proposition. as long as it comes with some fan adapters for some of the more common 200mm fan hole mounts.
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I would certainly be interested in a big, hefty CLC like the one featured here without having to buy some tiny, cramped case. While my H100i has served me well (getting ready to push eight years. holy shit, it's always bothered me how it's always just kind of sits in the middle of my case's 200mm fan mounts with a chunk of the 240mm rad being blocked off by a part of the case. So, yeah. When my H100i gives up the ghost, having the option of a big, bulky CLC like the 200mm one would certainly be a tempting proposition. as long as it comes with some fan adapters for some of the more common 200mm fan hole mounts.
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Maarten
I personally just built my new system in a Meshify C (too small for 200mm fans, coming off a CM690III which did have them. So 200mm rads aren't really relevant for me personally. On top of that, I'm in that group of people that doesn't much see the point in some 'recent' developments like AIO's (I have a Scythe Mugen 5 with push-pull on my CPU, no way that'll ever get hot in mild OC conditions) and LED lighting (I look at my screen, not my PC. I did put in some additional effort into cable management though in my latest build, thought that was the least I could do since the new case has a transparant side.
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I personally just built my new system in a Meshify C (too small for 200mm fans, coming off a CM690III which did have them. So 200mm rads aren't really relevant for me personally. On top of that, I'm in that group of people that doesn't much see the point in some 'recent' developments like AIO's (I have a Scythe Mugen 5 with push-pull on my CPU, no way that'll ever get hot in mild OC conditions) and LED lighting (I look at my screen, not my PC. I did put in some additional effort into cable management though in my latest build, thought that was the least I could do since the new case has a transparant side.
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Stian
I still have one the HAF cases from back in the day that I use and currently I've been shoping around for a new case because I can only mount 1 radiator unless I mount it on the door. A 200mm AIO could have been mounted at the front of the case as I removed all the drivebays (Who needs drivebays in 2020? get a M. 2, or mount the SSD in the top like I did with the holes left over from the drivebays. I got a nepton 240M cooling my CPU but I want to get an AIO to cool my GPU as well and I could fit a 140mm rad in the back exhaust mount, but would prefer to mount it in the front tbh
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I still have one the HAF cases from back in the day that I use and currently I've been shoping around for a new case because I can only mount 1 radiator unless I mount it on the door. A 200mm AIO could have been mounted at the front of the case as I removed all the drivebays (Who needs drivebays in 2020? get a M. 2, or mount the SSD in the top like I did with the holes left over from the drivebays. I got a nepton 240M cooling my CPU but I want to get an AIO to cool my GPU as well and I could fit a 140mm rad in the back exhaust mount, but would prefer to mount it in the front tbh
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Kostas
CM such a great idea! :D go for it. Just upgrade the fan if it's possible. I currently own H500 I'm very happy with it, upgrading those fans would make it perfect (by upgrading I mean totally new engineered more stability, better materials, higher rpm, specially since you are thinking it for H100. since it lacks exhaust fan, adding a radiator will kill airflow. so again a new fan is a must. +Most ppl who own CM cases with 200mm fan designs will go for it as an upgrade. it's a win-win scenario; )
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CM such a great idea! :D go for it. Just upgrade the fan if it's possible. I currently own H500 I'm very happy with it, upgrading those fans would make it perfect (by upgrading I mean totally new engineered more stability, better materials, higher rpm, specially since you are thinking it for H100. since it lacks exhaust fan, adding a radiator will kill airflow. so again a new fan is a must. +Most ppl who own CM cases with 200mm fan designs will go for it as an upgrade. it's a win-win scenario; )
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ManBearPig
This is an aio that is way over due for the market. I have an HAF 932 modded to within a mm of it's life. I mounted 2 of the 3 factory 230mm fans up front, then modified a Phobia 420 rad bracket to mount a Hardware Labs 420mm rad against the fans so that one edge lined up. It's a Long story with a lot more to it, but in the end worked great. A single 200mm aio is great, but a 400mm rad with a pair of 200mm fans would be even better. Thank You Steve and GN for highlighting this proto-type.
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This is an aio that is way over due for the market. I have an HAF 932 modded to within a mm of it's life. I mounted 2 of the 3 factory 230mm fans up front, then modified a Phobia 420 rad bracket to mount a Hardware Labs 420mm rad against the fans so that one edge lined up. It's a Long story with a lot more to it, but in the end worked great. A single 200mm aio is great, but a 400mm rad with a pair of 200mm fans would be even better. Thank You Steve and GN for highlighting this proto-type.
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Krazi
Yeah, id buy one if i needed a 200MM fan and or CLC Liquid Cooler, Be better if they made CPU and also GPU CLC's with 200MM Rads and fans? / but my dad has a Thermaltake Core X9 case thats uses i think a 200MM fan, so id see him wanting one of these for his case/CPU as well. so yeah they need to make it for retail. and support AMD Sockets. AKA TR4/SP3 and AM4 and all Previous AMD Sockets as well like AM3+ and back to skt 754 AMD sockets//
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Yeah, id buy one if i needed a 200MM fan and or CLC Liquid Cooler, Be better if they made CPU and also GPU CLC's with 200MM Rads and fans? / but my dad has a Thermaltake Core X9 case thats uses i think a 200MM fan, so id see him wanting one of these for his case/CPU as well. so yeah they need to make it for retail. and support AMD Sockets. AKA TR4/SP3 and AM4 and all Previous AMD Sockets as well like AM3+ and back to skt 754 AMD sockets//
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AstralStorm
Nothing that cannot be solved with silicone glue. (: It could be useful more if it did the Noctua multiple holes thing. But I'd rather have the rad alone, not the CLC. But I do case modding, in a Caselabs case, so I can mount anything including 200 mm fan with clips. Maybe that's a good way to do it universally? Silence and more radiators and more fans are the way for now, rather than more RPM.
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Nothing that cannot be solved with silicone glue. (: It could be useful more if it did the Noctua multiple holes thing. But I'd rather have the rad alone, not the CLC. But I do case modding, in a Caselabs case, so I can mount anything including 200 mm fan with clips. Maybe that's a good way to do it universally? Silence and more radiators and more fans are the way for now, rather than more RPM.
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1Tanker
Too many comments to see if this has been mentioned (i'm sure it has, but if my high school math classes from almost 40 years ago serve me right. a 200mm rad would have 9% more surface area than a 240x120mm. Based on that alone, i figured the 200mm beast would compete with at least a 240, if not better. I hope they pursue this as it has potential, especially with specifically optimized fans.
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Too many comments to see if this has been mentioned (i'm sure it has, but if my high school math classes from almost 40 years ago serve me right. a 200mm rad would have 9% more surface area than a 240x120mm. Based on that alone, i figured the 200mm beast would compete with at least a 240, if not better. I hope they pursue this as it has potential, especially with specifically optimized fans.
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Trei
This would allow me to brand out and explore other cases that have a 200mm fan built in. But also with the itx case, would be pretty dope as im in the middle of searing for a itx case now as it is that isnt some 200+ Dancase or Lian Li: / great cases but theres no way im paying that kinda money for such a small case. I havent spent that much on any case for any of my full tower builds
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This would allow me to brand out and explore other cases that have a 200mm fan built in. But also with the itx case, would be pretty dope as im in the middle of searing for a itx case now as it is that isnt some 200+ Dancase or Lian Li: / great cases but theres no way im paying that kinda money for such a small case. I havent spent that much on any case for any of my full tower builds
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