LIVE: -150 6.2GHz+ AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Overclocking with Liquid Nitrogen
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Date: 2022-09-28
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Anthony
1:31:12 You look like you're SUPER happy to be doing this OC live event.. I enjoy your enjoyment of the OC tonight.. I don't have the means to be able to get into the XOC myself, I just run an AIO and let AMD OC for me, but it works.. I'm on an x470 board with 2600x, I'm probably going to just stick with my ASUS board and upgrade to the 5800x3d when the price (if) comes down a little.. I have 32gb of 3200 ram and it's good, I don't really think I absolutely NEED pice4, pc is quick and I have SAM with my 5700xt already (which I was very surprised ASUS gave that to us with the x470-f gaming MB) But I do think a faster CPU would really really make my system smoke again. I was top 10% when I build it, I bought the 2600x when it was released, got lucky on the price.. Anyway I'm super happy to get a chance to live through Steve OC this amazing new processor!
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1:31:12 You look like you're SUPER happy to be doing this OC live event.. I enjoy your enjoyment of the OC tonight.. I don't have the means to be able to get into the XOC myself, I just run an AIO and let AMD OC for me, but it works.. I'm on an x470 board with 2600x, I'm probably going to just stick with my ASUS board and upgrade to the 5800x3d when the price (if) comes down a little.. I have 32gb of 3200 ram and it's good, I don't really think I absolutely NEED pice4, pc is quick and I have SAM with my 5700xt already (which I was very surprised ASUS gave that to us with the x470-f gaming MB) But I do think a faster CPU would really really make my system smoke again. I was top 10% when I build it, I bought the 2600x when it was released, got lucky on the price.. Anyway I'm super happy to get a chance to live through Steve OC this amazing new processor!
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BeheadedKamikaze
Thanks Steve for the advice on OCP regarding the ThreadRipper Pro 5995WX and dual RTX 4090 build. A bit sad, I had hoped not to need 2 cables to the wall (and to avoid the extra weight ), but so be it. I knew it was going to be close to the limit...
Thoughts on Corsair AX1600i vs EVGA SuperNOVA 1600W for the first one? I'm going based off 400W for the TRP using PBO, and an 800W spike from one 4090, plus motherboard, RAM, 9 fans and a pump.
A smaller 800W for the other 4090... or perhaps a 1300W and an additional 3090Ti, given that I would have a lot of potential power headroom
Might start to strain a bit the cooling capacity of the 3x360mm rad custom loop setup that'll fit in my O11D-XL though.
Edit: oh yeah, regarding multiple PSUs, the MSI WS WRX80 motherboard I'm getting has headers for 2 additional PSUs!
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Thanks Steve for the advice on OCP regarding the ThreadRipper Pro 5995WX and dual RTX 4090 build. A bit sad, I had hoped not to need 2 cables to the wall (and to avoid the extra weight ), but so be it. I knew it was going to be close to the limit...
Thoughts on Corsair AX1600i vs EVGA SuperNOVA 1600W for the first one? I'm going based off 400W for the TRP using PBO, and an 800W spike from one 4090, plus motherboard, RAM, 9 fans and a pump.
A smaller 800W for the other 4090... or perhaps a 1300W and an additional 3090Ti, given that I would have a lot of potential power headroom
Might start to strain a bit the cooling capacity of the 3x360mm rad custom loop setup that'll fit in my O11D-XL though.
Edit: oh yeah, regarding multiple PSUs, the MSI WS WRX80 motherboard I'm getting has headers for 2 additional PSUs!
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ukasz
33:30 about this whole nitrogen is in the air so its safe so it's basicly neutral in air - it is there but doesn't do anything to You. The problem is by adding it more (liquid N2 evaporates) You are lowering percentage of oxygen in the air and that is the risk. The same logic applies to any other not toxic gas(like CO2).
Edit: it's not the same as scuba diving, the pressure difference is the problem there. When You are diving the pressure in the water increases as You are going deeper so You need higher pressure in Your oxygen tank to be able to breathe. If You are comming to the surface to quickly air pressure in Your body doesn't have enough time to drop and it's starting to expand and tearing the tissue(the same as the helium ballon if You let it fly away and rise where the air pressure is lower)
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33:30 about this whole nitrogen is in the air so its safe so it's basicly neutral in air - it is there but doesn't do anything to You. The problem is by adding it more (liquid N2 evaporates) You are lowering percentage of oxygen in the air and that is the risk. The same logic applies to any other not toxic gas(like CO2).
Edit: it's not the same as scuba diving, the pressure difference is the problem there. When You are diving the pressure in the water increases as You are going deeper so You need higher pressure in Your oxygen tank to be able to breathe. If You are comming to the surface to quickly air pressure in Your body doesn't have enough time to drop and it's starting to expand and tearing the tissue(the same as the helium ballon if You let it fly away and rise where the air pressure is lower)
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Pierr
You know the am 4 socket is not dead yet I think. They had an interview with one of AMD's manager and he first said there won't be am 4 cpu's. Then in the next paragraph he said he doesn't see why and would stop making am 4 cpu's so he conderdict himself. We may see 5600x or 5950 with V-Cache. I really hope that is the case. He also said that why and will still support am 4 is that am 5 is ddr 5 only so and want to give people a choice between ddr 5 and ddr 4. I am not sure how accurate his view is but if they release something like a 5600x with V-Cache, a shitload of people will buy it.
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You know the am 4 socket is not dead yet I think. They had an interview with one of AMD's manager and he first said there won't be am 4 cpu's. Then in the next paragraph he said he doesn't see why and would stop making am 4 cpu's so he conderdict himself. We may see 5600x or 5950 with V-Cache. I really hope that is the case. He also said that why and will still support am 4 is that am 5 is ddr 5 only so and want to give people a choice between ddr 5 and ddr 4. I am not sure how accurate his view is but if they release something like a 5600x with V-Cache, a shitload of people will buy it.
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Toasty
Fun, cool, but boy is this sort of OCing becoming a thing of the past outside YT videos. Electric bill, and the CO2 emitted to produce it, are impossible to justify. I don't buy Apple or use ARM processors, but their approach seems to be the future. If I had to equip a youngster today with a workstation, it would be a monitor with an SBC mounted on the back. Of my own HW collection, I'm moving back to FPS gaming under Win98SE or XP on socket 775, and to just surfing the net on my main rig. Thanks for the memories, though.
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Fun, cool, but boy is this sort of OCing becoming a thing of the past outside YT videos. Electric bill, and the CO2 emitted to produce it, are impossible to justify. I don't buy Apple or use ARM processors, but their approach seems to be the future. If I had to equip a youngster today with a workstation, it would be a monitor with an SBC mounted on the back. Of my own HW collection, I'm moving back to FPS gaming under Win98SE or XP on socket 775, and to just surfing the net on my main rig. Thanks for the memories, though.
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John
Nitrogen narcosis is caused by very high concentrations of nitrogen in the blood which require pressures higher than atmospheric to achieve (eg. under water/rapture of the deep). The bends (bubbles in blood) happen when you saturate your blood with nitrogen at one pressure then lower the pressure so it comes out of solution. Asphyxiation from lack of oxygen is what occurs when Nitrogen levels are too high under normal atmospheric pressure.
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Nitrogen narcosis is caused by very high concentrations of nitrogen in the blood which require pressures higher than atmospheric to achieve (eg. under water/rapture of the deep). The bends (bubbles in blood) happen when you saturate your blood with nitrogen at one pressure then lower the pressure so it comes out of solution. Asphyxiation from lack of oxygen is what occurs when Nitrogen levels are too high under normal atmospheric pressure.
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MaverickBlue
The issue with liquid N2 without proper ventilation is that it'll displace all the oxygen in the room at some point, and you'll die from asphyxiation. If the percentage of oxygen in the air is 10% or less it can result in death, and anything less than 19% concentration can cause headaches, dizziness, vomiting, etc. Normal air has 21% oxygen, so you don't have too many percentage points to play with in a closed environment.
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The issue with liquid N2 without proper ventilation is that it'll displace all the oxygen in the room at some point, and you'll die from asphyxiation. If the percentage of oxygen in the air is 10% or less it can result in death, and anything less than 19% concentration can cause headaches, dizziness, vomiting, etc. Normal air has 21% oxygen, so you don't have too many percentage points to play with in a closed environment.
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gamersnexus
- For gaming, which 90% of us are, wait for 3D v-cache versions of the 7000 series. The 5800x3D is on par with the 7950x at almost half the cost; just get that for now unless on like a 5800x or higher already
- 4090 or 3090ti; 3090ti is on par with the 4080 16GB for less . Literally no one should be buying the 4070....err 4080 12GB
- ASROCK board....really? Just...why
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- For gaming, which 90% of us are, wait for 3D v-cache versions of the 7000 series. The 5800x3D is on par with the 7950x at almost half the cost; just get that for now unless on like a 5800x or higher already
- 4090 or 3090ti; 3090ti is on par with the 4080 16GB for less . Literally no one should be buying the 4070....err 4080 12GB
- ASROCK board....really? Just...why
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Trump
Tbh the 5800X3D 3600CL14 DDR4 X570 seems like the best deal if the 5800X3D price comes down. These new builds are going to be too expensive and not offer the performance leap over the 5800X3D until the new CPUs get the same cache. Also DDR5 just isn't there right now, you can get similar performance out of good DDR4 that's got the latency down.
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Tbh the 5800X3D 3600CL14 DDR4 X570 seems like the best deal if the 5800X3D price comes down. These new builds are going to be too expensive and not offer the performance leap over the 5800X3D until the new CPUs get the same cache. Also DDR5 just isn't there right now, you can get similar performance out of good DDR4 that's got the latency down.
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BurntFaceMan
8700k and 1080ti, asus prime mobo.
Which should I upgrade first?
Now 3080s are affordable I was hoping that? Unsure if the 8700k bottlenecks a 3080? Or lack of ddr5 means i cant get 4000 series so upgrade mobo etc.
It barely runs cyberpunk on lower settings. But has heaps of coilwhine when it does.
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8700k and 1080ti, asus prime mobo.
Which should I upgrade first?
Now 3080s are affordable I was hoping that? Unsure if the 8700k bottlenecks a 3080? Or lack of ddr5 means i cant get 4000 series so upgrade mobo etc.
It barely runs cyberpunk on lower settings. But has heaps of coilwhine when it does.
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Watchful
Seems useless unless you make a cooler that will keep the temps that low all the time. It would be tough to do work on a computer that you have to keep dumping nitrogen on. Maybe use the nitrogen in an A/C system at high pressure to allow compression to a liquid and expansion to a gas again in a closed loop.
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Seems useless unless you make a cooler that will keep the temps that low all the time. It would be tough to do work on a computer that you have to keep dumping nitrogen on. Maybe use the nitrogen in an A/C system at high pressure to allow compression to a liquid and expansion to a gas again in a closed loop.
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H1
Hmm meh, seems like the Nerd version of Muscle car racing, I don't care what max overclock can be achieved with extreme cooling, I do care about what Stable everyday overclock can be achieved with affordable cooling though :) I guess I'm more interested in practical applications. Good job though :) love ya work!
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Hmm meh, seems like the Nerd version of Muscle car racing, I don't care what max overclock can be achieved with extreme cooling, I do care about what Stable everyday overclock can be achieved with affordable cooling though :) I guess I'm more interested in practical applications. Good job though :) love ya work!
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Enchanter
I heard of one reason of using low-end video cards when doing extreme over-clocking is that they intend to use less system resource and good for benchmarking. I can neither prove it to be true or false. Someone may be able to answer it.
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I heard of one reason of using low-end video cards when doing extreme over-clocking is that they intend to use less system resource and good for benchmarking. I can neither prove it to be true or false. Someone may be able to answer it.
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jordan
I always wonder why Steve doesnt use _ effective clocks _ instead of just core clocks . It's a more accurate measurement, also helps figure out if any clock stretching is happening, which can help u dial in an overclock.
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I always wonder why Steve doesnt use _ effective clocks _ instead of just core clocks . It's a more accurate measurement, also helps figure out if any clock stretching is happening, which can help u dial in an overclock.
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Shiznaft
Crazy thing is, if you accidentally replace all the oxygen in the room with Nitrogen your body won't warn you about the asphyxiation until it is too late, because we are so accustomed to breathing nitrogen.
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Crazy thing is, if you accidentally replace all the oxygen in the room with Nitrogen your body won't warn you about the asphyxiation until it is too late, because we are so accustomed to breathing nitrogen.
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