Intel's Taped & Glued Arc A770 GPU: Tear-Down & Disassembly of Limited Edition Card
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I'll be buying an A750 because allegedly it does better in video encoding than the others, but it probably won't see a gaming use from me lmao
Edit: I'm an AMD fanboy right now, used to hate AMD but they won me over with Ryzen.
Date: 2022-10-06
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xDevs_com
It's kinda cool to see GPU that looks simple and basic, in contrast to Demon ultraextreme dark matter tachyon embedded limited editions of NV and AMD stuff. Drivers being made many years after made me die a little... I like how metal GPU bracket have a bump in area where PCIe serdes lanes are. Perhaps some SI engineer was adamant to have that for signal integrity ;-) But cable bonanza..I think engineers of main PCB designed card, tested everything, and celebrated job done. Then somebody came and said What? No RGB?! Unacceptable! , and as result we have this extra PCB hacked together into with silly EXTERNAL(!) USB cable in PC.. Steve, those RGB LED PCBs actually cheap (much less than 1 ) and easy to design. So it's quite cost effective. But, I agree, somebody had fun! Strange to see vapour chamber covering memory, aren't GPU making rams heat up?. LN2 overclocking A770, when? :P
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It's kinda cool to see GPU that looks simple and basic, in contrast to Demon ultraextreme dark matter tachyon embedded limited editions of NV and AMD stuff. Drivers being made many years after made me die a little... I like how metal GPU bracket have a bump in area where PCIe serdes lanes are. Perhaps some SI engineer was adamant to have that for signal integrity ;-) But cable bonanza..I think engineers of main PCB designed card, tested everything, and celebrated job done. Then somebody came and said What? No RGB?! Unacceptable! , and as result we have this extra PCB hacked together into with silly EXTERNAL(!) USB cable in PC.. Steve, those RGB LED PCBs actually cheap (much less than 1 ) and easy to design. So it's quite cost effective. But, I agree, somebody had fun! Strange to see vapour chamber covering memory, aren't GPU making rams heat up?. LN2 overclocking A770, when? :P
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Dennis
Its actually easy to assemble (from sub-assemblies) and not designed for servicability. That has been the mantra of most manufacturers for over twenty years. Manufacturers pay for the manufacturing cost (transformation costs). They, and Engineering have no mandate to make it easy to repair. It must last for the duration of the warranty period (with minimal statistical variance) and nothing else. Service is not a profit center.
That can be argued as valid for a fairly low cost consumable whose marketability period is finite. (There will be a new series with most of the sold units still functioning.) That does not make sense for say a 130,000 EV. In the latter case the cost is so high (and financing so long) that it must last for at least the duration of the financing. Thereafter it becomes a battle of the curves for cost of repair/maintenance vs just buying entirely new.
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Its actually easy to assemble (from sub-assemblies) and not designed for servicability. That has been the mantra of most manufacturers for over twenty years. Manufacturers pay for the manufacturing cost (transformation costs). They, and Engineering have no mandate to make it easy to repair. It must last for the duration of the warranty period (with minimal statistical variance) and nothing else. Service is not a profit center.
That can be argued as valid for a fairly low cost consumable whose marketability period is finite. (There will be a new series with most of the sold units still functioning.) That does not make sense for say a 130,000 EV. In the latter case the cost is so high (and financing so long) that it must last for at least the duration of the financing. Thereafter it becomes a battle of the curves for cost of repair/maintenance vs just buying entirely new.
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Animalyze71
Realistically at this price point they aren't designed for an end user to take apart, so very little if any thought would have to go into that. 98% of the user base will send these in for an RMA or toss them, the nit picking on this process is more contrived than the canvas tape on the LED wires comment. The 2% that will take this apart for whatever reasons will have a minimal amount frustration for sure but most VC's especially the newer nVidia cards are as much a hassle as anything seen here. 5k screws in a puzzle format just to replace 2 year old Thermal compound, not fun but easily doable for anyone with parts replacing ability, like model builders or engineering applications.
Let's also go over nVidias first forays into the video card market, oh how much we forget when criticizing others. Yeah remember their early fiasco's? Apparently not.
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Realistically at this price point they aren't designed for an end user to take apart, so very little if any thought would have to go into that. 98% of the user base will send these in for an RMA or toss them, the nit picking on this process is more contrived than the canvas tape on the LED wires comment. The 2% that will take this apart for whatever reasons will have a minimal amount frustration for sure but most VC's especially the newer nVidia cards are as much a hassle as anything seen here. 5k screws in a puzzle format just to replace 2 year old Thermal compound, not fun but easily doable for anyone with parts replacing ability, like model builders or engineering applications.
Let's also go over nVidias first forays into the video card market, oh how much we forget when criticizing others. Yeah remember their early fiasco's? Apparently not.
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Xavier
Unnecessarily harsh. They tried to make a beautiful card (at least it look quite nice to me), and they have not compromised too much repairability (only the back plate is taped on).
The layout, because of the need to achieve the exterior look is extremely complicated, but are mostly screwed down.
It's unnecessarily overengineered. Almost like it's a laptop.
This amount of engineering for a sub- 300 card is just insane. Partner cards will likely be significantly simpler, and maybe cheaper as well.
Coolermaster fans? what ?
At least they made the fan LED ring out of PCBs. Actually quite smart.
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Unnecessarily harsh. They tried to make a beautiful card (at least it look quite nice to me), and they have not compromised too much repairability (only the back plate is taped on).
The layout, because of the need to achieve the exterior look is extremely complicated, but are mostly screwed down.
It's unnecessarily overengineered. Almost like it's a laptop.
This amount of engineering for a sub- 300 card is just insane. Partner cards will likely be significantly simpler, and maybe cheaper as well.
Coolermaster fans? what ?
At least they made the fan LED ring out of PCBs. Actually quite smart.
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The
Well to disassemble this crap is actually painful to even watch lol, similar to RTX 2K garbage design.. But on a way i like how screws are covered up, and u cant see them, on other hands in order to clean the card, change paste or oil fans or replace them it will be pain in A to get to the card with all that crap going on for sure... The part with the many and all different screws did blow me away, what kind of crap is that, and who the F does that damn...
Still is the third try of Intel making discrete GPU since the first was Intel i740, then the Larabee project, and now this...
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Well to disassemble this crap is actually painful to even watch lol, similar to RTX 2K garbage design.. But on a way i like how screws are covered up, and u cant see them, on other hands in order to clean the card, change paste or oil fans or replace them it will be pain in A to get to the card with all that crap going on for sure... The part with the many and all different screws did blow me away, what kind of crap is that, and who the F does that damn...
Still is the third try of Intel making discrete GPU since the first was Intel i740, then the Larabee project, and now this...
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ProMods
None of the things here bother me. Reality of today is a nearly complete majority of people are never taking their card apart. Especially where they'd need to put the stock kit back together; IE, water block install would be different reassembly anyway. As long as the components last, this is one of the best LOOKING cards in a LONG time. I'll take the aesthetic and arguable cost savings to the end user over some figment of serviceability that affectively no consumers statistically will benefit from.
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None of the things here bother me. Reality of today is a nearly complete majority of people are never taking their card apart. Especially where they'd need to put the stock kit back together; IE, water block install would be different reassembly anyway. As long as the components last, this is one of the best LOOKING cards in a LONG time. I'll take the aesthetic and arguable cost savings to the end user over some figment of serviceability that affectively no consumers statistically will benefit from.
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Drew
I'm giving this same comment on Gamers Nexus, Linus, Jays, Hardware Unboxed, Hardware Canucks, and Pauls Hardware. Can you please stagger your video topics. I'm seeing the same topic and I'm like, 'oh shoot, Intels throwing round the post launch party favors.' Get together and pick someone to go first. At least Daniel Owen's covering the 3080 today. Come on guys, how boring are you when the dorky math teacher is the radical one?
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I'm giving this same comment on Gamers Nexus, Linus, Jays, Hardware Unboxed, Hardware Canucks, and Pauls Hardware. Can you please stagger your video topics. I'm seeing the same topic and I'm like, 'oh shoot, Intels throwing round the post launch party favors.' Get together and pick someone to go first. At least Daniel Owen's covering the 3080 today. Come on guys, how boring are you when the dorky math teacher is the radical one?
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Scott
Too bad they couldn't have put the screws where it mattered instead of using glue and tape. I feel like they're focus was more on RGB. Honestly I really hate RGB. Too many people focus on RGB when it comes to their PC build instead of performance. I would Choose performance over lighting and looks! Honestly expected more from Intel after watching this video I wouldn't buy one.
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Too bad they couldn't have put the screws where it mattered instead of using glue and tape. I feel like they're focus was more on RGB. Honestly I really hate RGB. Too many people focus on RGB when it comes to their PC build instead of performance. I would Choose performance over lighting and looks! Honestly expected more from Intel after watching this video I wouldn't buy one.
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Random
It is almost like this is their first real GPU to be mass produced for consumers and it has some growing pains when entering the market against very mature competitors with a lot more experience... who would have guessed. Honestly though it would be awesome to see them partner with EVGA. I am glad to see them entering the market, keep pushing Intel.
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It is almost like this is their first real GPU to be mass produced for consumers and it has some growing pains when entering the market against very mature competitors with a lot more experience... who would have guessed. Honestly though it would be awesome to see them partner with EVGA. I am glad to see them entering the market, keep pushing Intel.
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itech
I have a feeling there will never be board partners for intel, unless the venture completely flops and its the only profitable way out. It's pretty clear they want to take the apple route, so only they can service/repair the card, creating an entire side business by intentionally making their product convoluted and inefficient.
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I have a feeling there will never be board partners for intel, unless the venture completely flops and its the only profitable way out. It's pretty clear they want to take the apple route, so only they can service/repair the card, creating an entire side business by intentionally making their product convoluted and inefficient.
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Merlin
Clearly an American design. Esoteric, easy to break, overengineered with practical being thrown to the wayside. Can you treat your customers anymore like shit? I'm sure you can. Now that you are getting craps loads of government subsidies to help us not get dominated militarily by the CCP. Way to go Intel.
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Clearly an American design. Esoteric, easy to break, overengineered with practical being thrown to the wayside. Can you treat your customers anymore like shit? I'm sure you can. Now that you are getting craps loads of government subsidies to help us not get dominated militarily by the CCP. Way to go Intel.
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itech
Build quality is disappointing. I had my fingers crossed intel would make a better first impression. Hope remains as long as they don't ditch dGPU like they did last time, when they pioneered the AGP bus back in the day. Here's hoping they learn and iterate, the space badly needs more competition.
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Build quality is disappointing. I had my fingers crossed intel would make a better first impression. Hope remains as long as they don't ditch dGPU like they did last time, when they pioneered the AGP bus back in the day. Here's hoping they learn and iterate, the space badly needs more competition.
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Kenny
so if youre intending to buy this card and it goes bad, the best thing you can do is to just throw it away instead of repairing it coz it looks like theres more things that might get damaged by tearing it down and putting it back again than you ever fixing the issue. thanks intel.
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so if youre intending to buy this card and it goes bad, the best thing you can do is to just throw it away instead of repairing it coz it looks like theres more things that might get damaged by tearing it down and putting it back again than you ever fixing the issue. thanks intel.
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Vile
I plan on getting one of these and was hoping to drop an Alphacool universal waterblock on it but not only is that backplate nasty, the spacing on the GPU screws is looking not promising T_T
EDIT: Having finished the video, yeah... definitely can't use ye olde GPX. This sucks
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I plan on getting one of these and was hoping to drop an Alphacool universal waterblock on it but not only is that backplate nasty, the spacing on the GPU screws is looking not promising T_T
EDIT: Having finished the video, yeah... definitely can't use ye olde GPX. This sucks
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