CPU Thermal Issues & Der8auer's Scientific Solutions Graphene, Direct Die Blocks, & More
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There's so many options out there now, and all the products seem so similar, but are apparently specialized in different ways. Would be awesome to see how they perform, even if it doesn't show an extended duration test immediately.
Date: 2023-06-14
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Sam
I own a Cyberpower i7-5700x, 32GB ram, 500GB NVME, RTX 3080. It has a (good) heat sink. Case is that white mid-range they sold a lot two years ago. Had heat issues bad ater running CP2077. Coudn't throttle the graphics on the game enough to get the temps down even at 1080P on medium settings with NO Ray Tracing. GPU temp was soring to over 83C, and shutting down my machine after about fifteen minutes of play.
Used Afterburner to turn the fans on full blast 100% of the time, and still no joy. I clean the fans and inlets/vents weekly with canned air and a chamois, and all that crap.
Took the plexi door off and the 'puter is a rock star now. CP2077 at 1440P, ultra settings, everything maxed, Ray Tracing on psycho. Afterburner says temp of the GPU is 51C, and no shut downs since. Sometimes it's the simplest things. Do I WANT the door off? No. But I want to play my games more.
Incidentally, you can play CP2077 at 1080P with the new path tracing tech turned on. It looks smashing, and will not over tax-your system if you normally play at a higher res with simple ray tracing, like I do. It's kind of like watching a really expensively made animated feature on your TV at 1080P... the extra detail and realism will impress.
Cheers all.
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I own a Cyberpower i7-5700x, 32GB ram, 500GB NVME, RTX 3080. It has a (good) heat sink. Case is that white mid-range they sold a lot two years ago. Had heat issues bad ater running CP2077. Coudn't throttle the graphics on the game enough to get the temps down even at 1080P on medium settings with NO Ray Tracing. GPU temp was soring to over 83C, and shutting down my machine after about fifteen minutes of play.
Used Afterburner to turn the fans on full blast 100% of the time, and still no joy. I clean the fans and inlets/vents weekly with canned air and a chamois, and all that crap.
Took the plexi door off and the 'puter is a rock star now. CP2077 at 1440P, ultra settings, everything maxed, Ray Tracing on psycho. Afterburner says temp of the GPU is 51C, and no shut downs since. Sometimes it's the simplest things. Do I WANT the door off? No. But I want to play my games more.
Incidentally, you can play CP2077 at 1080P with the new path tracing tech turned on. It looks smashing, and will not over tax-your system if you normally play at a higher res with simple ray tracing, like I do. It's kind of like watching a really expensively made animated feature on your TV at 1080P... the extra detail and realism will impress.
Cheers all.
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Eric
Interesting!
As far as the 12Vhp connector I think the issue is 99% IOE Idiot Operator Error It's not at all difficult to surmise a minority of people will screw something up when it comes to ensuring the cable is ALL THE WAY in. I think the Nvidia design is sort of lame / unsightly but I don't think there's anything fundamentally / inherently wrong with it that it is causing these uncommon issues with melting . My CORSAIR RMx Shift Series RM1000x PSU came with a single cable plug-in (two cables into the PSU) for my Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 4090 and I've had no issues with it whatsoever (goes up to 600W no problem), plus it looks a lot better than the eye-sore from NVidia.
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Interesting!
As far as the 12Vhp connector I think the issue is 99% IOE Idiot Operator Error It's not at all difficult to surmise a minority of people will screw something up when it comes to ensuring the cable is ALL THE WAY in. I think the Nvidia design is sort of lame / unsightly but I don't think there's anything fundamentally / inherently wrong with it that it is causing these uncommon issues with melting . My CORSAIR RMx Shift Series RM1000x PSU came with a single cable plug-in (two cables into the PSU) for my Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 4090 and I've had no issues with it whatsoever (goes up to 600W no problem), plus it looks a lot better than the eye-sore from NVidia.
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Kansax
My cheap-o HP Pavilion Gaming laptop had horrendous pumpout, even with the thickest pastes I could find in the UK. After about 2 days of lazy thermal cycling, all the paste would be pushed out from the CPU & GPU die to the surrounding pcb. People were recommending Panasonic graphite pads, so I nabbed their 10W/m-k thermal pad. 10 quid for a small sheet, 20 if you wanted the 20w. That kinda hurt.
Now the laptop gets toasty (8 core coffee lake, GTX 1060), but hits the power limit before it hits the thermal throttling limit.
How does Panasonic's various graphite pads compare to ICDiamond and Thermal Grizzly pads?
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My cheap-o HP Pavilion Gaming laptop had horrendous pumpout, even with the thickest pastes I could find in the UK. After about 2 days of lazy thermal cycling, all the paste would be pushed out from the CPU & GPU die to the surrounding pcb. People were recommending Panasonic graphite pads, so I nabbed their 10W/m-k thermal pad. 10 quid for a small sheet, 20 if you wanted the 20w. That kinda hurt.
Now the laptop gets toasty (8 core coffee lake, GTX 1060), but hits the power limit before it hits the thermal throttling limit.
How does Panasonic's various graphite pads compare to ICDiamond and Thermal Grizzly pads?
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notanotherreviewer
Really wish Gamers Nexus made an investigation piece about those Honeywell TPM pads which are getting use on laptops now and how they compare to the competition. I think pads make sense for devices like laptops where changing paste is a pain and there are effects like mounting pressure and device orientation but there's not a lot of info out there
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Really wish Gamers Nexus made an investigation piece about those Honeywell TPM pads which are getting use on laptops now and how they compare to the competition. I think pads make sense for devices like laptops where changing paste is a pain and there are effects like mounting pressure and device orientation but there's not a lot of info out there
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Rick
Der8auer has really interesting videos. I would love to see a collaborative development with Gamers Nexus and Der8auer on cases and cooling solutions. Curious why don't you just design a Computer Case and thermal solutions for the mass market since you seem to have the experience and skill to do so? Then just out source the development to Taiwan?
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Der8auer has really interesting videos. I would love to see a collaborative development with Gamers Nexus and Der8auer on cases and cooling solutions. Curious why don't you just design a Computer Case and thermal solutions for the mass market since you seem to have the experience and skill to do so? Then just out source the development to Taiwan?
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WarblyWark
I'm using the graphene pad in a build for the kid. He's old enough he lives on his own. This set and forget mentality is perfect considering his rig won't be serviced in at least a year.
Using the wraith stealth cooler. I know it's not the best use case scenario, but it's only a 3600 so thermals probably will never affect the CPU.
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I'm using the graphene pad in a build for the kid. He's old enough he lives on his own. This set and forget mentality is perfect considering his rig won't be serviced in at least a year.
Using the wraith stealth cooler. I know it's not the best use case scenario, but it's only a 3600 so thermals probably will never affect the CPU.
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Radomir
Geek question:
Is the nickel plating sulphate based? Sulphamate based? Electroless?
Did anyone think about making a mandrel and electroform the thermal interface instead of machining it?
It is costly but doable, I know it from the record industry, lots of copper and nickel electroformi g with sub-micron precission
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Geek question:
Is the nickel plating sulphate based? Sulphamate based? Electroless?
Did anyone think about making a mandrel and electroform the thermal interface instead of machining it?
It is costly but doable, I know it from the record industry, lots of copper and nickel electroformi g with sub-micron precission
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Stewie
Been loving Thermal Grizzly and their products. Can t wait for these AM5 products to launch. Would be interesting to take a look at. Debating if I d try delidding or go with their other solution Roman mentioned that doesn t need to be delidded. Especially with having a 7800x3d in a SFF case.
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Been loving Thermal Grizzly and their products. Can t wait for these AM5 products to launch. Would be interesting to take a look at. Debating if I d try delidding or go with their other solution Roman mentioned that doesn t need to be delidded. Especially with having a 7800x3d in a SFF case.
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Ars
Well you've got guts taking over the Asus meeting room just a few days after posting a video with the splendid title scumbag Asus . How did that happen? Or where you imprisoned there and Roman dropped by to bring some hidden tools in his little Thermal Grizzly packs to help you brake out?
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Well you've got guts taking over the Asus meeting room just a few days after posting a video with the splendid title scumbag Asus . How did that happen? Or where you imprisoned there and Roman dropped by to bring some hidden tools in his little Thermal Grizzly packs to help you brake out?
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william
I purchased an antec kuhler mount waaay back in the day from Der8auer's webpage back before he sold the design to the big AIO corps,
it was a good ole THE GREEN Mod project on my gtx 670, and then i moved it to my 970 later, when they made the 970 with the same board layout
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I purchased an antec kuhler mount waaay back in the day from Der8auer's webpage back before he sold the design to the big AIO corps,
it was a good ole THE GREEN Mod project on my gtx 670, and then i moved it to my 970 later, when they made the 970 with the same board layout
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Kitsune
OH SHIT!! Im going to use Kryonaut for the first time! All my other builds, x5, have used Hydronaut. on a down side, I built a pc last year using the LianLi 360aio, however i will not know if it needs replaced untill i get it since he lives in Detroit and i live in Connecticut
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OH SHIT!! Im going to use Kryonaut for the first time! All my other builds, x5, have used Hydronaut. on a down side, I built a pc last year using the LianLi 360aio, however i will not know if it needs replaced untill i get it since he lives in Detroit and i live in Connecticut
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TravisPNW
I just ordered Noctua s new offset bracket for the NH-D15 cooling my 7950x3D. Has nothing to do with thermals though temps are well within normal. It s literally a 5 part so for that price I ll pull the trigger on it. Noctua is saying a 3C difference.
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I just ordered Noctua s new offset bracket for the NH-D15 cooling my 7950x3D. Has nothing to do with thermals though temps are well within normal. It s literally a 5 part so for that price I ll pull the trigger on it. Noctua is saying a 3C difference.
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Clown
I truelly hope that for ryzen 8000 AMD will find a way to have a thinner IHS. Like using a thicker chip with only traces at the bottom (unlikely) or using a thicker PCB. Because i am already uncomfortable having my CPU constantly at 80c during gaming....
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I truelly hope that for ryzen 8000 AMD will find a way to have a thinner IHS. Like using a thicker chip with only traces at the bottom (unlikely) or using a thicker PCB. Because i am already uncomfortable having my CPU constantly at 80c during gaming....
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owlmostdead
5:30 it makes sense if you want to capture more profit, the raw material is only the first step of the profit ladder, also keeps some process/jobs inland so export cannot completely dry out the industry.
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5:30 it makes sense if you want to capture more profit, the raw material is only the first step of the profit ladder, also keeps some process/jobs inland so export cannot completely dry out the industry.
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Mansour
I love that Roman said AIOs were a big problem around 2:20 and didn t use corporate speak and say designing for AIO proved to be quite challenging . No need for corporate speak in the enthusiast market.
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I love that Roman said AIOs were a big problem around 2:20 and didn t use corporate speak and say designing for AIO proved to be quite challenging . No need for corporate speak in the enthusiast market.
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Cromefire_
Always nice to see some engineering talk with Roman and you.
Also always good to see I'm not the only German just in the middle of talking English almost starting a sentence with genau .
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Always nice to see some engineering talk with Roman and you.
Also always good to see I'm not the only German just in the middle of talking English almost starting a sentence with genau .
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Oscar
When and where can i get that sheet. I just did a direct die custom water cooling for my i9-13900ks and i feel like ill have a more peace of mind with that sheet instead of liquid metal.
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When and where can i get that sheet. I just did a direct die custom water cooling for my i9-13900ks and i feel like ill have a more peace of mind with that sheet instead of liquid metal.
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Tyrion
I don't know what I'm gonna do when y'all slow down content soon . I've become too accustomed to so much high quality work. I hope y'all enjoy a bit of a lighter workload!
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I don't know what I'm gonna do when y'all slow down content soon . I've become too accustomed to so much high quality work. I hope y'all enjoy a bit of a lighter workload!
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Javier
Y'know seeing Der 8auer's (amazing) tattoos and remembering how Metal Steve is made me wonder why he doesn't have any (visible). Wouldn't Steve look sick af with a sleeve?
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Y'know seeing Der 8auer's (amazing) tattoos and remembering how Metal Steve is made me wonder why he doesn't have any (visible). Wouldn't Steve look sick af with a sleeve?
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