Dragon's Dogma 2 is a Mess: GPU & CPU Benchmarks, Bottlenecks, & Crashes
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Date: 2024-03-25
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PatJamesRicketts
I built a monster custom rig last fall for mostly gaming, thinking there would be games coming that needed it... I may not upgrade for another decade at this point, as I would rather invest in my new watchmaking hobby. No matter how pretty my chromed copper tubing looks, the AM4 Dark Hero pushing a 5900X 5GHz and AQUA7900XTX over 3GHz are already working on obsolescence. I can buy a $200 watch, repair it, and make it a $1500 one. Sucks to grow up, but turning your passion into an investment is a much better option. I spent nearly $6000 building my rig, I probably wouldn't see half that if I tried to sell after the next gen hardware releases. A $6000 watch could be worth double that in the lifespan of one of my PC builds. Not the worst value to get 8 years out of a Titan X Pascal that is still great for 1440P after never seeing air cooling, mining a little ETH, and tinkering with overclocks. I felt like I got my money's worth, but reselling that $1800 card now in a resell build is almost impossible when you can get modern upgrades for a decent price.
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I built a monster custom rig last fall for mostly gaming, thinking there would be games coming that needed it... I may not upgrade for another decade at this point, as I would rather invest in my new watchmaking hobby. No matter how pretty my chromed copper tubing looks, the AM4 Dark Hero pushing a 5900X 5GHz and AQUA7900XTX over 3GHz are already working on obsolescence. I can buy a $200 watch, repair it, and make it a $1500 one. Sucks to grow up, but turning your passion into an investment is a much better option. I spent nearly $6000 building my rig, I probably wouldn't see half that if I tried to sell after the next gen hardware releases. A $6000 watch could be worth double that in the lifespan of one of my PC builds. Not the worst value to get 8 years out of a Titan X Pascal that is still great for 1440P after never seeing air cooling, mining a little ETH, and tinkering with overclocks. I felt like I got my money's worth, but reselling that $1800 card now in a resell build is almost impossible when you can get modern upgrades for a decent price.
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partyparrot8495
The MTX in this game doesn''t concern me greatly; it's all shit that can be easily obtained quickly in game as to be virtually redundant. They shouldn't be in a single player game though, no.
My problem right now is obviously the performance. It's painful, and DLSS is ugly in this one with sharpening not seemingly doing anything. Not even got to any population centers yet, which I'm dreading. Worst thing is I can hardly go too long in the character creation without crashes, specifically this one: Fatal D3D error (25, DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG, 0x887a0006). Don't know if it's a 20 series problem or what, since I'm using a 2080ti, but unless I drop everything to the lowest I've no hope of getting through. I'd have thought a 2080ti would have been enough though.
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The MTX in this game doesn''t concern me greatly; it's all shit that can be easily obtained quickly in game as to be virtually redundant. They shouldn't be in a single player game though, no.
My problem right now is obviously the performance. It's painful, and DLSS is ugly in this one with sharpening not seemingly doing anything. Not even got to any population centers yet, which I'm dreading. Worst thing is I can hardly go too long in the character creation without crashes, specifically this one: Fatal D3D error (25, DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG, 0x887a0006). Don't know if it's a 20 series problem or what, since I'm using a 2080ti, but unless I drop everything to the lowest I've no hope of getting through. I'd have thought a 2080ti would have been enough though.
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bravebiird
i do love the game a lot, but it's pretty funny forcing my i5-7600k to work on this game. i'd say with my overclocks it is just BARELY playable enough for me, getting down into the teens in vernworth with tons of stutters. miraculously, i've only crashed one time after about 30 hours of play on it, and it wasn't even in the city, but in a cave lmao
i'll never say no to people shitting on a company for denuvo and dlc, but you can tell the devs and designers had zero ill intent (though the one save file thing is a bit of an uncompromising traditional vision kinda deal). that dlc does absolutely nothing to make the experience of the game better, and i've been really enjoying playing it thanks to steam family sharing lmao
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i do love the game a lot, but it's pretty funny forcing my i5-7600k to work on this game. i'd say with my overclocks it is just BARELY playable enough for me, getting down into the teens in vernworth with tons of stutters. miraculously, i've only crashed one time after about 30 hours of play on it, and it wasn't even in the city, but in a cave lmao
i'll never say no to people shitting on a company for denuvo and dlc, but you can tell the devs and designers had zero ill intent (though the one save file thing is a bit of an uncompromising traditional vision kinda deal). that dlc does absolutely nothing to make the experience of the game better, and i've been really enjoying playing it thanks to steam family sharing lmao
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Latchfpv
Excellent breakdown as to why this title is performing the way it is. I was super hyped about DD2 as I loved the first, however I fortunately held off (because they wanted $95 in Canada, lol, no) and I'm super glad I did, the way that performs is insane. I game at 4k with a mid range system because I can manage it with most games, but this one seems like it needs a few more passes, and also the removal of shitty ass Denuvo, the modern day Starforce cancer drm.
On a more positive note, GN should do some benches for Horizon Forbidden West. It's a Nixxes port and by all counts looks and runs amazingly well across a wide range of systems.
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Excellent breakdown as to why this title is performing the way it is. I was super hyped about DD2 as I loved the first, however I fortunately held off (because they wanted $95 in Canada, lol, no) and I'm super glad I did, the way that performs is insane. I game at 4k with a mid range system because I can manage it with most games, but this one seems like it needs a few more passes, and also the removal of shitty ass Denuvo, the modern day Starforce cancer drm.
On a more positive note, GN should do some benches for Horizon Forbidden West. It's a Nixxes port and by all counts looks and runs amazingly well across a wide range of systems.
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buddybleeyes
Thanks for running all these tests Steve its at the point now, if a game launches with these issues- I'm waiting for a fix and a heavy discounted sale. If a game is actually good and doesn't launch with these issues, I'm more likely to pick up at launch to reward the devs and publishers that have done well releasing a good game. Vote with your wallet. Honestly cant wait to see how much denuvo cripples performance when this is eventually cracked. Would be interesting to see how much is denuvo and how much is the mess of coding
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Thanks for running all these tests Steve its at the point now, if a game launches with these issues- I'm waiting for a fix and a heavy discounted sale. If a game is actually good and doesn't launch with these issues, I'm more likely to pick up at launch to reward the devs and publishers that have done well releasing a good game. Vote with your wallet. Honestly cant wait to see how much denuvo cripples performance when this is eventually cracked. Would be interesting to see how much is denuvo and how much is the mess of coding
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praisethesun6573
I definitely noticed some weird things here running a 7800x3d and a 7900xtx. I switched from 1440 to 4k when I noticed the strange instabilities. Also noticed how fps had random dips. I thought it might be the usual dips but noticed the Devs posted a message about cpu usage how resources go towards characters, etc around 15:21. So I tried switching to 4k to see if it could compensate even a little. It does but there are still strange issues so I had to test settings. Good to see a breakdown.
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I definitely noticed some weird things here running a 7800x3d and a 7900xtx. I switched from 1440 to 4k when I noticed the strange instabilities. Also noticed how fps had random dips. I thought it might be the usual dips but noticed the Devs posted a message about cpu usage how resources go towards characters, etc around 15:21. So I tried switching to 4k to see if it could compensate even a little. It does but there are still strange issues so I had to test settings. Good to see a breakdown.
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ProfessorGudu
Long story short, they are charging you AAA game prices, $70, when they developed this game at a level that indie companies wouldn't even release in early access. For anyone that paid for this this game, or ever worse, pre-ordered, you get what you deserve. I will gladly wait to pirate this game when Denuvo gets taken away (or cracked) just to give this company the middle finger for releasing a game in this state, which in return, gave the players an even bigger middle finger.
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Long story short, they are charging you AAA game prices, $70, when they developed this game at a level that indie companies wouldn't even release in early access. For anyone that paid for this this game, or ever worse, pre-ordered, you get what you deserve. I will gladly wait to pirate this game when Denuvo gets taken away (or cracked) just to give this company the middle finger for releasing a game in this state, which in return, gave the players an even bigger middle finger.
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Ehh.....
From what ive heard with other studios who put shit like denuvo on their games temporarily, is that they use Denuvo to slow down pirates for the first month or two since thats when the bulk of their initial sales are. Capcom is a special case as in they try to keep denuvo and even went back to years old games to add it. I like capcom games but you wont catch me paying them to play their games until they get their heads out of their asses.
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From what ive heard with other studios who put shit like denuvo on their games temporarily, is that they use Denuvo to slow down pirates for the first month or two since thats when the bulk of their initial sales are. Capcom is a special case as in they try to keep denuvo and even went back to years old games to add it. I like capcom games but you wont catch me paying them to play their games until they get their heads out of their asses.
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TinMan445
Boooo. Change your settings and it’s fine, the bad performance is only in the capital. I have a 14600k and 3070ti and I still get 50 fps in capital at 1440p. Out in the wild fighting is 90 fps.
The micro transactions are NOTHING, if your buying those your just dumb. Honestly all the items for sale come very easily in game. I’m honestly surprised your bashing in that, gamers are the most delicate losers.
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Boooo. Change your settings and it’s fine, the bad performance is only in the capital. I have a 14600k and 3070ti and I still get 50 fps in capital at 1440p. Out in the wild fighting is 90 fps.
The micro transactions are NOTHING, if your buying those your just dumb. Honestly all the items for sale come very easily in game. I’m honestly surprised your bashing in that, gamers are the most delicate losers.
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KillahMate
To anyone asking why a studio would ever release a game in this state: Capcom made them push the game out in March so that they could have the release before the end of the fiscal year and get the share price boost from it - conversely if they'd delayed it even one month it would have been after the end of the fiscal year and their shares would have suffered because of a delayed release.
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To anyone asking why a studio would ever release a game in this state: Capcom made them push the game out in March so that they could have the release before the end of the fiscal year and get the share price boost from it - conversely if they'd delayed it even one month it would have been after the end of the fiscal year and their shares would have suffered because of a delayed release.
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dirtymisfit5852
I’ve never had to tinker so much to get it at 4k 60fps, but it’s possible, not in cities, but outside mostly locked. 6900xt, 32gb 3600 ram, ssd, 5800x, hiiiiiighly had to mess around in amd adrenaline and tweak in game settings, and the game looks so good once you get it dialed in. We are on pc, I don’t mind optimizing for the devs downfalls lol they will patch it eventually.
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I’ve never had to tinker so much to get it at 4k 60fps, but it’s possible, not in cities, but outside mostly locked. 6900xt, 32gb 3600 ram, ssd, 5800x, hiiiiiighly had to mess around in amd adrenaline and tweak in game settings, and the game looks so good once you get it dialed in. We are on pc, I don’t mind optimizing for the devs downfalls lol they will patch it eventually.
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odin4048
Company: Less effort is cheaper, lets also add microtransactions and sell the game for more than $60.
Steve: We gave them $280, why are companies doing this
All of it is just a circlejerk of hype and hate. What if instead, the massege was we won't make a video, cause the game isn't worth talking about, don't buy it.
All publicity is good publicity does actually work.
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Company: Less effort is cheaper, lets also add microtransactions and sell the game for more than $60.
Steve: We gave them $280, why are companies doing this
All of it is just a circlejerk of hype and hate. What if instead, the massege was we won't make a video, cause the game isn't worth talking about, don't buy it.
All publicity is good publicity does actually work.
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grimmgaming5693
This is sad i dont even want to buy the game with these issues the game looks awesome but i dont wanna spend 70 bucks for stuttering and stalling also interested to see what the perfomance stats are on a series x or ps5 in comparison and you say about the new drivers but they can cause issues somtimes too many times ive had to roll back drivers due to less performance
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This is sad i dont even want to buy the game with these issues the game looks awesome but i dont wanna spend 70 bucks for stuttering and stalling also interested to see what the perfomance stats are on a series x or ps5 in comparison and you say about the new drivers but they can cause issues somtimes too many times ive had to roll back drivers due to less performance
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FuhonTusjo
It's so sad, because the game itself is actually really good.
I've been playing on a 3800x with a 6700xt. I get between 27fps in the big city and 50-60 fps everywhere else. So it is playable, but at what cost.
The Game hasn't crashed for me once, unless i Quit it through any means. It will close normally and then always start a bug report for no reason xD
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It's so sad, because the game itself is actually really good.
I've been playing on a 3800x with a 6700xt. I get between 27fps in the big city and 50-60 fps everywhere else. So it is playable, but at what cost.
The Game hasn't crashed for me once, unless i Quit it through any means. It will close normally and then always start a bug report for no reason xD
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Greez1337
It's crazy that resolution impacts the lows so much when CPU bound. Playing at 1080p nets me like 55fps min in the main cities, as opposed to like 40fps at native 1440p.
It's interesting to see you had lows sub 30 on a 14900K. I've never seen it that low on my 13700k. Wondering if the extremely tight memory makes a difference there.
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It's crazy that resolution impacts the lows so much when CPU bound. Playing at 1080p nets me like 55fps min in the main cities, as opposed to like 40fps at native 1440p.
It's interesting to see you had lows sub 30 on a 14900K. I've never seen it that low on my 13700k. Wondering if the extremely tight memory makes a difference there.
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pascaldifolco4611
Dragon Dogma 2 has an integrated CP2077 Sandevistan that stops time for 5 sec, that's a feature
Btw I don't think this game looks that good, animations are janky, faces are meh, there's not much in cities (even if it keeps 24 cores busy..), it's kinda dark ... BG3 looks so much better (and run so much better!)
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Dragon Dogma 2 has an integrated CP2077 Sandevistan that stops time for 5 sec, that's a feature
Btw I don't think this game looks that good, animations are janky, faces are meh, there's not much in cities (even if it keeps 24 cores busy..), it's kinda dark ... BG3 looks so much better (and run so much better!)
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v0LkEN88
Need more gamers to band together and no longer support this greedy evil game company by not going to preorder any game even hyped af. The trend of releasing unfinished game need to die along with the companies that did it.
Ps: Wow, I also have that Asus GT301 Zaku II Edition. Mine was full set though
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Need more gamers to band together and no longer support this greedy evil game company by not going to preorder any game even hyped af. The trend of releasing unfinished game need to die along with the companies that did it.
Ps: Wow, I also have that Asus GT301 Zaku II Edition. Mine was full set though
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gamersnexus
Sometimes i wonder if studios are just tasking AI with things like optimization configuration and that is why games have been so bad within the last couple years.
A few games i just wonder if AI wrote the entire thing while the studio was on a yacht somewhere laughing at the customer/fanbase
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Sometimes i wonder if studios are just tasking AI with things like optimization configuration and that is why games have been so bad within the last couple years.
A few games i just wonder if AI wrote the entire thing while the studio was on a yacht somewhere laughing at the customer/fanbase
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ivangg378
Seems like you need to have the perfect combination of hardware to play the game. I'm playing with a laptop that has a 3070 and a decent medium-high CPU and works perfectly for me in medium-high settings. I've seen people with better hardware struggle...seems like bottlenecks are the main issue.
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Seems like you need to have the perfect combination of hardware to play the game. I'm playing with a laptop that has a 3070 and a decent medium-high CPU and works perfectly for me in medium-high settings. I've seen people with better hardware struggle...seems like bottlenecks are the main issue.
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josuad6890
It's funny that modern titles often is CPU bound, at least at release. Remember Baldur's gate act 3 Yeah, that was also insanely CPU bound. Remember starfield around city areas Also CPU bound. So yeah, if you want to play day 1 on modern titles, maybe investing on good CPU is a viable option.
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It's funny that modern titles often is CPU bound, at least at release. Remember Baldur's gate act 3 Yeah, that was also insanely CPU bound. Remember starfield around city areas Also CPU bound. So yeah, if you want to play day 1 on modern titles, maybe investing on good CPU is a viable option.
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