Corsair Forgot How to Make a Case: 6500D Airflow & 6500X Review
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Date: 2024-05-28
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NINEWALKING
Corsair does thick side pannels on 7000 series. Steve goes bananas. Corsair makes a lightweight solution using a plastic frame. Steve goes bananas. When it's off the case, I couldn't bother less if it sags. On the case, it's fixed and straight and lighter than steel. That's plus for me. Somehow, I am getting a feeling that Steve might be a little biased there. But that'd just me. On the other hand, I might be biased as well. For example, I can't understand why he takes money from Montech that is ripping off case his friend Roman helped design Company that rips off everything. From one side, it looks like it's on the high horse and then money od money. So yeah, I don't like that. If you follow your own high morality standard as Steve usually does, really he does, and I do respect that s lot, why selling out to obvious ripoff company BTW, that drive cage is ...... On the other hand, I do not recall when I have used anything else than M.2 SSD in the builds I have made. Drive cages and HDD cables are so 2000 as kids would say.
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Corsair does thick side pannels on 7000 series. Steve goes bananas. Corsair makes a lightweight solution using a plastic frame. Steve goes bananas. When it's off the case, I couldn't bother less if it sags. On the case, it's fixed and straight and lighter than steel. That's plus for me. Somehow, I am getting a feeling that Steve might be a little biased there. But that'd just me. On the other hand, I might be biased as well. For example, I can't understand why he takes money from Montech that is ripping off case his friend Roman helped design Company that rips off everything. From one side, it looks like it's on the high horse and then money od money. So yeah, I don't like that. If you follow your own high morality standard as Steve usually does, really he does, and I do respect that s lot, why selling out to obvious ripoff company BTW, that drive cage is ...... On the other hand, I do not recall when I have used anything else than M.2 SSD in the builds I have made. Drive cages and HDD cables are so 2000 as kids would say.
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conorstewart2214
Those fan screws seem absolutely pointless. The actual screwing in doesn’t take much time with normal screws and the majority of people aren’t changing, removing or replacing their fans often, for most people they screw it in once and leave it. The thread pitch and the fact it only has one thread and one rotation will just make it weak and easy to pull out, although the fact it screws into plastic will help it not pull out. They could have made it stronger by using a multiple start screw but that would make it harder to use because more force would be required.
I just don’t see the point, for most people this is actively worse than normal fan screws, they are weaker just so it takes a tiny amount less time to put the screw in, I would rather spend a second or so longer so that it makes a better connection.
Why would Corsair waste money on this Getting custom screws made with painted heads would not be cheap, even at large scale. It seems they have focussed on all the wrong things with this case.
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Those fan screws seem absolutely pointless. The actual screwing in doesn’t take much time with normal screws and the majority of people aren’t changing, removing or replacing their fans often, for most people they screw it in once and leave it. The thread pitch and the fact it only has one thread and one rotation will just make it weak and easy to pull out, although the fact it screws into plastic will help it not pull out. They could have made it stronger by using a multiple start screw but that would make it harder to use because more force would be required.
I just don’t see the point, for most people this is actively worse than normal fan screws, they are weaker just so it takes a tiny amount less time to put the screw in, I would rather spend a second or so longer so that it makes a better connection.
Why would Corsair waste money on this Getting custom screws made with painted heads would not be cheap, even at large scale. It seems they have focussed on all the wrong things with this case.
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rogantu
Corsair has always been garbage. Here are just some of the issues I experienced with this company.
1. M90 gaming mouse. It had multiple buttons that were broken from the factory, either stuck inside the mouse and unable to move or they had a very weird and broken click. The software also didn't work and was needed to enable and use several buttons. There were 2 settings that could be on or off and you could try any of the 4 combinations and the buttons would not be enabled by any of them. Corsairs manual for this mouse literally said We have no freaking clue how it works, so go to our forums and see how our fans have made it work.
2. Their PSUs are trash made from second rate parts. I had a system that ran quite stable until one day it got BSODs out of nowhere. It took ages to diagnose and it turns out it's because the capacitors in the PSU had degraded massively over just a few months of use, and I needed to run my 1 rail GPU off 2 rails to prevent these BSODs.
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Corsair has always been garbage. Here are just some of the issues I experienced with this company.
1. M90 gaming mouse. It had multiple buttons that were broken from the factory, either stuck inside the mouse and unable to move or they had a very weird and broken click. The software also didn't work and was needed to enable and use several buttons. There were 2 settings that could be on or off and you could try any of the 4 combinations and the buttons would not be enabled by any of them. Corsairs manual for this mouse literally said We have no freaking clue how it works, so go to our forums and see how our fans have made it work.
2. Their PSUs are trash made from second rate parts. I had a system that ran quite stable until one day it got BSODs out of nowhere. It took ages to diagnose and it turns out it's because the capacitors in the PSU had degraded massively over just a few months of use, and I needed to run my 1 rail GPU off 2 rails to prevent these BSODs.
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jonbondMPG
My Corsair Obsidian 750D is a great case, but it demonstrated the start of this slide as early as 2019.
Earlier builds of the Obsidian D series all steel, and the reviews and even user videos showed this... So I was disappointed when mine turned up with the fan meshes not glued down right, they sag, the top filter mesh has slowly taken on the bump shapes of the screw heads holding the internal rad... why so Plastic.
The top mesh being very thin metal and the thicker layer of plastic has taken on the shape through thermal re-training of the plastic.
The front mesh, I am constantly taking it off to clean it.... I suppose though I'm lucky in this case as it is plastic fronted that plastic front clicks on and off, you don't pull is and hence don't add to the bend as you demonstrated in your Video.....
Gah.....
Asus gone.....
Now Corsair cases!....
Gah
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My Corsair Obsidian 750D is a great case, but it demonstrated the start of this slide as early as 2019.
Earlier builds of the Obsidian D series all steel, and the reviews and even user videos showed this... So I was disappointed when mine turned up with the fan meshes not glued down right, they sag, the top filter mesh has slowly taken on the bump shapes of the screw heads holding the internal rad... why so Plastic.
The top mesh being very thin metal and the thicker layer of plastic has taken on the shape through thermal re-training of the plastic.
The front mesh, I am constantly taking it off to clean it.... I suppose though I'm lucky in this case as it is plastic fronted that plastic front clicks on and off, you don't pull is and hence don't add to the bend as you demonstrated in your Video.....
Gah.....
Asus gone.....
Now Corsair cases!....
Gah
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David-zy1jw
My only surprise is that people are surprised great companies go bad. All successful companies start off with great people that really cared about the product they make and sell, and the goal is not just profit margins, but they take pride in their work that happens to also make them some money. But eventually success means expansion, and expansion means investors, and investors means your company is now at the mercy of people investing, the same people that demands maximum profit returns. These investors pressure you to hire financial experts that show you how to cut costs, which in reality is really cut quality. Boeing is the primary example. All companies go through the same cycle.
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My only surprise is that people are surprised great companies go bad. All successful companies start off with great people that really cared about the product they make and sell, and the goal is not just profit margins, but they take pride in their work that happens to also make them some money. But eventually success means expansion, and expansion means investors, and investors means your company is now at the mercy of people investing, the same people that demands maximum profit returns. These investors pressure you to hire financial experts that show you how to cut costs, which in reality is really cut quality. Boeing is the primary example. All companies go through the same cycle.
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Wooskii1
First frame where you showed the case I thought That looks a lot like my case!. I have the Air 540 and its been great.
I helped a friend build in his then I had to get one myself, now I'm all-in on the dual chamber design (easy w/ lots of room and configurations). It's really a shame the quality went down so much because the 540 is a great case but missing some modern features like quick release fan/ radiator brackets, USB-C ports, and bottom intake (I ditched the bottom drive sleds, cut some holes, and mounted 2X 140mm fans. Runs super cool). Ah well, aybe next time, as long as they don't try to change extra for iCue which I refuse to use.
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First frame where you showed the case I thought That looks a lot like my case!. I have the Air 540 and its been great.
I helped a friend build in his then I had to get one myself, now I'm all-in on the dual chamber design (easy w/ lots of room and configurations). It's really a shame the quality went down so much because the 540 is a great case but missing some modern features like quick release fan/ radiator brackets, USB-C ports, and bottom intake (I ditched the bottom drive sleds, cut some holes, and mounted 2X 140mm fans. Runs super cool). Ah well, aybe next time, as long as they don't try to change extra for iCue which I refuse to use.
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jonathanzj620
I've stopped buying Corsair altogether. Bought a PSU directly from them that was DOA, went through return process where they gave me endless garbage and made it super difficult, sent me a new one, and it was also DOA. Had to go through a bunch of customer service escalations to get that returned and in general they do not offer or approve refunds unless you take it all the way up the fhain and provide a ton of documentation. Not to mention the only ram I've ever had DOA in 25 years of building computers has been Corsair RAM. Too many better competitors to go with, so no thank you.
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I've stopped buying Corsair altogether. Bought a PSU directly from them that was DOA, went through return process where they gave me endless garbage and made it super difficult, sent me a new one, and it was also DOA. Had to go through a bunch of customer service escalations to get that returned and in general they do not offer or approve refunds unless you take it all the way up the fhain and provide a ton of documentation. Not to mention the only ram I've ever had DOA in 25 years of building computers has been Corsair RAM. Too many better competitors to go with, so no thank you.
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switzerland3696
Those drive cages do not even work from a thermal prospective, Corsair are aware of the issue, but they continuing using that design like 10 years later after acknowledging that HDD's overhead when using them publicly. Atleast they have fixed the nastty PCIe covers and retention mechanism.
Sadly it took me a couple of years to learn that Corsair was more of a marketing company than an engineering company after jumping on the fan boy train.
Have since jumped ship to Fractal, Lian Li, Noctua and EVGA.
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Those drive cages do not even work from a thermal prospective, Corsair are aware of the issue, but they continuing using that design like 10 years later after acknowledging that HDD's overhead when using them publicly. Atleast they have fixed the nastty PCIe covers and retention mechanism.
Sadly it took me a couple of years to learn that Corsair was more of a marketing company than an engineering company after jumping on the fan boy train.
Have since jumped ship to Fractal, Lian Li, Noctua and EVGA.
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benault773
95% of these shortcomings don't make sense to me. The filter being flimsy are completely negated when its installed on the case. Also, lets be honest with ourselves, are people who build a back connector motherboard pc actually using HDD I'm assuming not. And then the random O11 copy cat shade is just over played at this point. Its a rectangle box. Every case is a copy of something previously made. Almost all cars have 4 doors and 4 wheels. Does that make them cheap knock offs of model Ts
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95% of these shortcomings don't make sense to me. The filter being flimsy are completely negated when its installed on the case. Also, lets be honest with ourselves, are people who build a back connector motherboard pc actually using HDD I'm assuming not. And then the random O11 copy cat shade is just over played at this point. Its a rectangle box. Every case is a copy of something previously made. Almost all cars have 4 doors and 4 wheels. Does that make them cheap knock offs of model Ts
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robmasters3569
love it - the humour I mean, not the case. I like the look of the case but I'm looking at it from a distance, a long distance.......via your video. I do not intend to take a close look because I fully agree with the statement that there are far better options for the same or less money, so unless I'm intending to deliberately waste money it would not make any logical sense to buy this case - poor show Corsair ! ! ! I think we all expect better from a company of your stature
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love it - the humour I mean, not the case. I like the look of the case but I'm looking at it from a distance, a long distance.......via your video. I do not intend to take a close look because I fully agree with the statement that there are far better options for the same or less money, so unless I'm intending to deliberately waste money it would not make any logical sense to buy this case - poor show Corsair ! ! ! I think we all expect better from a company of your stature
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sandorbence2067
I think the drive cage issue could be overlooked if this wasn't a dual chamber case made with the specific reason to have extra space behind the motherboard for these type of things. It's unlikely that anyone who'll spend on a board with back cabling is also stuck with 3.5 inch drives. As a whole I'd eliminate 3.5 and 2.5 inch mounting from most cases as it was done with 5.25. We have nvme and even half decent ITX boards have at least 2 nvme drive slots.
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I think the drive cage issue could be overlooked if this wasn't a dual chamber case made with the specific reason to have extra space behind the motherboard for these type of things. It's unlikely that anyone who'll spend on a board with back cabling is also stuck with 3.5 inch drives. As a whole I'd eliminate 3.5 and 2.5 inch mounting from most cases as it was done with 5.25. We have nvme and even half decent ITX boards have at least 2 nvme drive slots.
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potardo9851
Man that is not worth that price point considering to make it very useful you'd have to modify it right out of the gate anyway. I don't think I've ever seen that much structural plastic on a case ever. I've seen tons of plastic covers but the frame for a metal mesh is ridiculous. Corsairs power supply casings and their survivor series usb drives are like armored so seeing a Corsair branded case that's not a hunk of strong metal is disappointing.
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Man that is not worth that price point considering to make it very useful you'd have to modify it right out of the gate anyway. I don't think I've ever seen that much structural plastic on a case ever. I've seen tons of plastic covers but the frame for a metal mesh is ridiculous. Corsairs power supply casings and their survivor series usb drives are like armored so seeing a Corsair branded case that's not a hunk of strong metal is disappointing.
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Adrian-is6qn
I've got O11 dynamic evo myself, cause of the reverse mode. Seems to me they tried to save some money here and lowered quality which really shouldn't happen because this cases aren't cheap, and let's be real here you can get competition cases much cheaper on sales, i've bought my O11 dynamic evo last year for for a 150$ which compared to this one Ye either they cut prices or they screwed or they make some v2 correcting the bs.
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I've got O11 dynamic evo myself, cause of the reverse mode. Seems to me they tried to save some money here and lowered quality which really shouldn't happen because this cases aren't cheap, and let's be real here you can get competition cases much cheaper on sales, i've bought my O11 dynamic evo last year for for a 150$ which compared to this one Ye either they cut prices or they screwed or they make some v2 correcting the bs.
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gamersnexus
I bought the 6500D because I wanted a dual-chamber case which didn't look like a fishbowl due to mesh in front, with the option of putting fans on the bottom. I really like the case, I think it looks really good, however I do not use hard-drives so I have not run into the issue with their placement. Also their screws are actually nice to work with although they are just screws, one twist of the wrist and they are fully in.
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I bought the 6500D because I wanted a dual-chamber case which didn't look like a fishbowl due to mesh in front, with the option of putting fans on the bottom. I really like the case, I think it looks really good, however I do not use hard-drives so I have not run into the issue with their placement. Also their screws are actually nice to work with although they are just screws, one twist of the wrist and they are fully in.
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iokwong1871
If you ask me, I would said, nearly no DIY case makes any sense what so ever nowaday. Sure some may seems cool. but nearly all are simply cutting conners design. Starting from motherboard form factor to everything else. (got to give some credit to Intel here, as they have been push many good design over the years, that would have solve 90% of the non-sense you see nowaday, but DIY builder are too stubborn to adapt.)
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If you ask me, I would said, nearly no DIY case makes any sense what so ever nowaday. Sure some may seems cool. but nearly all are simply cutting conners design. Starting from motherboard form factor to everything else. (got to give some credit to Intel here, as they have been push many good design over the years, that would have solve 90% of the non-sense you see nowaday, but DIY builder are too stubborn to adapt.)
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BladeCrew
Even my Montech Air 100 Lite that I got for 43 dollars materials are better than this case. Even my front panel does not bend like this case. I can even add 280mm cpu liquad cooler on top or a 240mm in front. Note: The monetch air 100 lite comes with beautiful velcro straps and cable ties. If I wanted the montech air 100 lite argb(that comes with 4 preinstalled fans instead of 2) i only cost 54 dollar.
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Even my Montech Air 100 Lite that I got for 43 dollars materials are better than this case. Even my front panel does not bend like this case. I can even add 280mm cpu liquad cooler on top or a 240mm in front. Note: The monetch air 100 lite comes with beautiful velcro straps and cable ties. If I wanted the montech air 100 lite argb(that comes with 4 preinstalled fans instead of 2) i only cost 54 dollar.
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vinnyclegg
I'm buying this for my own project Zero build... However my airflow setup will be:
Intake:
- Bottom and front ( both 3x 120mm fans)
Exhaust:
- Top (3x 120mm fans)
- Side (3x 120mm fans on AIO exhausting the hot CPU air OUT of the case while getting fresh from front/bottom)
- Back (1 x 140mm fan)
With this both the CPU and GPU are getting their own fresh supply of air.
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I'm buying this for my own project Zero build... However my airflow setup will be:
Intake:
- Bottom and front ( both 3x 120mm fans)
Exhaust:
- Top (3x 120mm fans)
- Side (3x 120mm fans on AIO exhausting the hot CPU air OUT of the case while getting fresh from front/bottom)
- Back (1 x 140mm fan)
With this both the CPU and GPU are getting their own fresh supply of air.
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Christopher_S
$200!! Given the plastic that comes with this case, I thought it was another budget one!!! It seems they were going for Jack of All Trades and became Master of None.
EDIT: Yeah I know there's a lot of metal too, but a bulk of it is cosmetic. It's plastic (and bendy) where it matters too.
EDIT2: Just checked - The Lian Li O11 Dynamic is cheaper. I'd buy that over this.
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$200!! Given the plastic that comes with this case, I thought it was another budget one!!! It seems they were going for Jack of All Trades and became Master of None.
EDIT: Yeah I know there's a lot of metal too, but a bulk of it is cosmetic. It's plastic (and bendy) where it matters too.
EDIT2: Just checked - The Lian Li O11 Dynamic is cheaper. I'd buy that over this.
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lilithstenhouse267
Speaking as an SFFPC enthusiast (currently running a 4060ti 16gb in a 3.9l custom case brickless), the lack of drive support HORRIFIES me. I space optimised to the max to get a AAA gaming machine you can pick up with one hand, and they couldn't support ANY drives with a flipped PSU in a 78 litre case Whichever exec signed off on this design should be fired.
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Speaking as an SFFPC enthusiast (currently running a 4060ti 16gb in a 3.9l custom case brickless), the lack of drive support HORRIFIES me. I space optimised to the max to get a AAA gaming machine you can pick up with one hand, and they couldn't support ANY drives with a flipped PSU in a 78 litre case Whichever exec signed off on this design should be fired.
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ScrattleGG
Corsair is trash. I will never forget when I got their 350D spouting water cooling support and specifying sizes... it did not fit their own flippin AIO. They have no testing or communication internally. I cannot fathom anyone who would buy corsair when there exists companies with soul, quality and afterthought like fractal, lian li etc
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Corsair is trash. I will never forget when I got their 350D spouting water cooling support and specifying sizes... it did not fit their own flippin AIO. They have no testing or communication internally. I cannot fathom anyone who would buy corsair when there exists companies with soul, quality and afterthought like fractal, lian li etc
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