Get It Together, Intel: Core Ultra 9 285K CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 7800X3D, 9950X, More
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Date: 2024-10-24
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Fabunility
I would love to see some benchmarks comparing it to the older 14900k / 14700k when downclocked and/or power limited to the degree where they draw comparable amounts of power to a 285k.
der8auer did some tests doing that to a 13900k and managed to get some impressive power efficiency gains since these older CPUs are so inefficient because they are essentially overclocked out of the box drawing massive amounts of power for little performance gains just to try to match AMD when it comes to performance so it would be interesting to see how high the power efficiency gains actually are when put on an even playing field and not because they simply stopped pumping so much energy into the CPU to achieve those extra few 100 MHz of clock speed.
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I would love to see some benchmarks comparing it to the older 14900k / 14700k when downclocked and/or power limited to the degree where they draw comparable amounts of power to a 285k.
der8auer did some tests doing that to a 13900k and managed to get some impressive power efficiency gains since these older CPUs are so inefficient because they are essentially overclocked out of the box drawing massive amounts of power for little performance gains just to try to match AMD when it comes to performance so it would be interesting to see how high the power efficiency gains actually are when put on an even playing field and not because they simply stopped pumping so much energy into the CPU to achieve those extra few 100 MHz of clock speed.
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msg360
when you're not even faster then the 14900k , while in some situations draw the same power if not more . whelp and everyone was jumping ship on the 13th and 14th Gen, I'm here like nope I downloaded the Microcode update , never had a problem with my 14900k and I'm not jumping ship I got a 5-year extended warranty so ill keep it for that time frame and upgrade to something new in 2030.
AI is not main stream yet games and most apps don't use it unless its like image or chat apps , ill say wait for the second-gen AI CPUs or longer.
makes no sense to upgrade unless you are building a new system for gaming then get the 7800x3d best bang for your buck.
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when you're not even faster then the 14900k , while in some situations draw the same power if not more . whelp and everyone was jumping ship on the 13th and 14th Gen, I'm here like nope I downloaded the Microcode update , never had a problem with my 14900k and I'm not jumping ship I got a 5-year extended warranty so ill keep it for that time frame and upgrade to something new in 2030.
AI is not main stream yet games and most apps don't use it unless its like image or chat apps , ill say wait for the second-gen AI CPUs or longer.
makes no sense to upgrade unless you are building a new system for gaming then get the 7800x3d best bang for your buck.
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macking104
Interesting:
The ASUS Z890 Hero motherboard feeds four of the CPU VRM phases from the 24-pin ATX connector, instead of the 8-pins, which makes it impossible to measure CPU-only power with dedicated test equipment (we're not trusting any CPU software power sensors). You either lose some power because only the two 8-pin CPU connectors are measured, or you end up including power for the GPU, chips, and storage when measuring the two 8-pin connectors along with the 24-pin ATX. For this reason, we used an MSI Z890 Carbon motherboard exclusively for the power consumption tests in this review.
(Techpowerup)
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Interesting:
The ASUS Z890 Hero motherboard feeds four of the CPU VRM phases from the 24-pin ATX connector, instead of the 8-pins, which makes it impossible to measure CPU-only power with dedicated test equipment (we're not trusting any CPU software power sensors). You either lose some power because only the two 8-pin CPU connectors are measured, or you end up including power for the GPU, chips, and storage when measuring the two 8-pin connectors along with the 24-pin ATX. For this reason, we used an MSI Z890 Carbon motherboard exclusively for the power consumption tests in this review.
(Techpowerup)
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JK533
This is unfortunatley not a good situation for both Intel and the PC cpu market as a whole. A strong Intel and AMD is needed, and as seen with the AMD Ryzen 9000 series we are once again in a situation like with Intel Core i until Ryzen came where we saw a 5 to at most 15 percent performance increase each generation. The only positive these few years have been the X3D chips, and i really hope de 9800x3d will be good, but some leaks say even that one will not be a big improvement over 7800x3d.
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This is unfortunatley not a good situation for both Intel and the PC cpu market as a whole. A strong Intel and AMD is needed, and as seen with the AMD Ryzen 9000 series we are once again in a situation like with Intel Core i until Ryzen came where we saw a 5 to at most 15 percent performance increase each generation. The only positive these few years have been the X3D chips, and i really hope de 9800x3d will be good, but some leaks say even that one will not be a big improvement over 7800x3d.
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icetech6
I have owned a computer store for over 35 years now.. been a intel fanboi forever and the last couple of years i just get madder and madder.. tired of just shit products with small upgrades for bigger price jumps. For our normal office/home user systems we still use 12th gen and will as long as possible. They are rock solid and for a average user (not gamer) pretty much perfect. Going forward though.. dunno. Plus a new naming convention.. WHY! just... annoyed.
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I have owned a computer store for over 35 years now.. been a intel fanboi forever and the last couple of years i just get madder and madder.. tired of just shit products with small upgrades for bigger price jumps. For our normal office/home user systems we still use 12th gen and will as long as possible. They are rock solid and for a average user (not gamer) pretty much perfect. Going forward though.. dunno. Plus a new naming convention.. WHY! just... annoyed.
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Martin-b6p
35:00 Thank you Steve for a graph with adequate for my location electricity cost. :) Of course I won't play 8h/7/365 days but I plan to use my new CPU for at least 10 years. As I did with my 4760K. Then even when I play on weekends for 8-10 hours I will see power usage similar to what was shown in your calculation. Especially when electricity cost is projected to rise in my country for about 20% next year to about $0.30 cents/kWh. :(
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35:00 Thank you Steve for a graph with adequate for my location electricity cost. :) Of course I won't play 8h/7/365 days but I plan to use my new CPU for at least 10 years. As I did with my 4760K. Then even when I play on weekends for 8-10 hours I will see power usage similar to what was shown in your calculation. Especially when electricity cost is projected to rise in my country for about 20% next year to about $0.30 cents/kWh. :(
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CalgarGTX
Yikes. Arrowed Lake.
Tbh Id like more testing being done with E cores turned off over all the Intel stack to see what real perf their cores get gen over gen and vs AMD. This scheduling mess is making numbers all over the place.
At this point I kinda dgaf about average FPS anymore Id rather get the CPU that gives me 120 fps 1% lows rather than 30.
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Yikes. Arrowed Lake.
Tbh Id like more testing being done with E cores turned off over all the Intel stack to see what real perf their cores get gen over gen and vs AMD. This scheduling mess is making numbers all over the place.
At this point I kinda dgaf about average FPS anymore Id rather get the CPU that gives me 120 fps 1% lows rather than 30.
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KG4JYS
Come on, gamersnexus give the power related benchmarks a rest. It only matters on mobile and for businesses with many computers. For gamers, it's completely irrelevant. Performance, regardless of any other factor, is what I care about when I buy a CPU. As long as it will run quake. I'd wager 99% of home users especially gamers would agree.
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Come on, gamersnexus give the power related benchmarks a rest. It only matters on mobile and for businesses with many computers. For gamers, it's completely irrelevant. Performance, regardless of any other factor, is what I care about when I buy a CPU. As long as it will run quake. I'd wager 99% of home users especially gamers would agree.
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lilpain1997
Man, AMD pulled an Nvidia and made the 1080ti of CPUs with the 5800x3D. I know its not old at all, its around what 2 years But its still doing so well and competes/can do better than intels offerings that cost much more. The 7800x3D is also damn good but thats sadly sky rocketing in price now as everyone wants one
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Man, AMD pulled an Nvidia and made the 1080ti of CPUs with the 5800x3D. I know its not old at all, its around what 2 years But its still doing so well and competes/can do better than intels offerings that cost much more. The 7800x3D is also damn good but thats sadly sky rocketing in price now as everyone wants one
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GetOffMyyLawn
I paid $247 for my 7800X3d back in march as part of a Microcenter bundle. It is my first AMD CPU (as a reference, my first build was with a Pentium chip with the FDIV bug). I was very close to pulling the trigger on a 13700k, and I am so glad that I took what for me, was a huge leap to AMD. No regerts!
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I paid $247 for my 7800X3d back in march as part of a Microcenter bundle. It is my first AMD CPU (as a reference, my first build was with a Pentium chip with the FDIV bug). I was very close to pulling the trigger on a 13700k, and I am so glad that I took what for me, was a huge leap to AMD. No regerts!
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milesfarber
It's really funny how apparently nobody cares about power efficiency, but as of today 7.2 billion people own a smartphone and 1 billion people own an ARM laptop/computer. It's almost as if all those people claiming that they care about software preservation are bots.....
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It's really funny how apparently nobody cares about power efficiency, but as of today 7.2 billion people own a smartphone and 1 billion people own an ARM laptop/computer. It's almost as if all those people claiming that they care about software preservation are bots.....
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Ooooooops.
If only Intel had a Psion user that was high enough level to cast 'Reality Revision'. They would only have to spend 17 Power Points and 5,000 measly XP to be able to Undo Misfortune (launch of the Ultra 9 285K CPU). Referencing the Expanded Psionics Handbook pg. 128.
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If only Intel had a Psion user that was high enough level to cast 'Reality Revision'. They would only have to spend 17 Power Points and 5,000 measly XP to be able to Undo Misfortune (launch of the Ultra 9 285K CPU). Referencing the Expanded Psionics Handbook pg. 128.
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VaalkinTheOnly
Am I the only one who just... wants to see Intel finally catch a win
I've been all AMD all the way but I can't be the only one who's getting exhausted with how mediocre Intel has been. I just want them to win so I can finally be excited about something.
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Am I the only one who just... wants to see Intel finally catch a win
I've been all AMD all the way but I can't be the only one who's getting exhausted with how mediocre Intel has been. I just want them to win so I can finally be excited about something.
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berticus0001
WOW! You only pay 10c per KWh!!!! Here in the UK we have to pay the bills for the rich since the politicians got caught trying to steal from the tax office so made a law so they could steal legally, so our costs are 58p (75c) pKWh to cover their bills.
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WOW! You only pay 10c per KWh!!!! Here in the UK we have to pay the bills for the rich since the politicians got caught trying to steal from the tax office so made a law so they could steal legally, so our costs are 58p (75c) pKWh to cover their bills.
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TechTusiast
I wonder if the next big jump in CPU performance comes only after CPUs have enough cache to basically run software from there leaving memory as more of a fast swap location for software not currently active. What does it require.. 0.1nm instead of 5nm
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I wonder if the next big jump in CPU performance comes only after CPUs have enough cache to basically run software from there leaving memory as more of a fast swap location for software not currently active. What does it require.. 0.1nm instead of 5nm
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NFT2
I was really looking forward to picking up a 285K as an upgrade from the 9900K I've been using for years, but I guess I'll wait and see what AMD has in store with their new chip. Glad I waited for the GN review. I'm not sure what I'd do without you guys.
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I was really looking forward to picking up a 285K as an upgrade from the 9900K I've been using for years, but I guess I'll wait and see what AMD has in store with their new chip. Glad I waited for the GN review. I'm not sure what I'd do without you guys.
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Timmones
I just got a 13700k from Best Buy for sub-$200 after stacking some cashback and credit card deals. I'm happy with this, until either Intel wakes up and releases the 2nm process finally, AMD's new 3D comes out, or 7800X3D comes down more.
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I just got a 13700k from Best Buy for sub-$200 after stacking some cashback and credit card deals. I'm happy with this, until either Intel wakes up and releases the 2nm process finally, AMD's new 3D comes out, or 7800X3D comes down more.
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sturenorth
Horrific fact: Easy Anticheat just last week got exposed by game cheater makers for having several instances of being hacked on their back end, leaving hackers the possability to ban players using the Easy Anti cheat back doors.
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Horrific fact: Easy Anticheat just last week got exposed by game cheater makers for having several instances of being hacked on their back end, leaving hackers the possability to ban players using the Easy Anti cheat back doors.
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dragonfalcon8474
Sad world we live in, it takes Extremely competent YoutTubers to call out and hold Intel accountable. Sounds like a toxic company Intel has become, shame. Thank you GN for all yourr work and fighting for us little people.
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Sad world we live in, it takes Extremely competent YoutTubers to call out and hold Intel accountable. Sounds like a toxic company Intel has become, shame. Thank you GN for all yourr work and fighting for us little people.
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gamersnexus
If Intel has a name for a feature, then the motherboard vendors NEED to use that name for consistency. Im sick of the same thing being called a dozzen different things. Also they should behave realitivly similar to eachother.
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If Intel has a name for a feature, then the motherboard vendors NEED to use that name for consistency. Im sick of the same thing being called a dozzen different things. Also they should behave realitivly similar to eachother.
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