The 5-Fan 'MEGA GAMER' GPU Tested: Maxsun MGG RTX 4080 Benchmarks
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1,400.00 for what is essentially a single GPU flagship graphics card.
The GTX 680 retailed for 499.99 US Dollars at launch in March 22, 2012.
So, a flagship card is now enthusiast class in cost at double the price. Correction: More than double and nearly triple the price.
So then, what os Nvidia telling us?
That the GeForce GTX 680 was supposed to be 1,200?
They're saying that it was grossly underpriced?
Or is the age of hardware truly irrelevant now as it is purely the price of admission for getting better performance from one generation to the next?
If that's the case,... why was the GeForce RTX 2080 699 at launch while the RTX 3080 was also 699 at launch and then all of a sudden the RTX 4080 is 1,199 at launch?
Why?
No seriously,...
Why?
Where's the justification?
Date: 2023-04-22
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Comments and reviews: 14
Nick
I'm surprised it wasn't brought up whether or not the frame had an impact on GPU sag. With how large cards have been getting I feel like that's a valid topic to discuss when reviewing, and this appears to have a very sturdy frame that wraps around the entire card. Another thing I would have liked to have seen discussed is the value for people who keep their cards a lot longer and don't upgrade every cycle or two. The quality in the build speaks to the longevity of this card, at least potentially. Either way, seems like an interesting product coming from a company I hadn't really heard of.
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I'm surprised it wasn't brought up whether or not the frame had an impact on GPU sag. With how large cards have been getting I feel like that's a valid topic to discuss when reviewing, and this appears to have a very sturdy frame that wraps around the entire card. Another thing I would have liked to have seen discussed is the value for people who keep their cards a lot longer and don't upgrade every cycle or two. The quality in the build speaks to the longevity of this card, at least potentially. Either way, seems like an interesting product coming from a company I hadn't really heard of.
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Tyler
I actually had a suspicion that the top fans might hurt the thermals before the chart showed it. My first thought was the top fans might cause some of the air drawn into the top of the fin stack to leave before it can make it all the way through the stack, cause hot spots to form, and eventually that heat soaks it way though the stack causing higher temps. In reality, it's probably not even that big of a deal as a degree isn't really going to make or break this card and the five fan gimmick is eye catching.
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I actually had a suspicion that the top fans might hurt the thermals before the chart showed it. My first thought was the top fans might cause some of the air drawn into the top of the fin stack to leave before it can make it all the way through the stack, cause hot spots to form, and eventually that heat soaks it way though the stack causing higher temps. In reality, it's probably not even that big of a deal as a degree isn't really going to make or break this card and the five fan gimmick is eye catching.
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HashTag
Question: Why don't mfgs extend the height of the heat pipes from the gpu and put the fans on the backside of the cooler to blow or push, the air from the entire surface of the cooler? Seems like you would get more of the surface and air to cool things off. Since coming in from the bottom side of the cooler would equal lower temps on the board and it's components since you would be pulling in cooler air toward those parts first...?
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Question: Why don't mfgs extend the height of the heat pipes from the gpu and put the fans on the backside of the cooler to blow or push, the air from the entire surface of the cooler? Seems like you would get more of the surface and air to cool things off. Since coming in from the bottom side of the cooler would equal lower temps on the board and it's components since you would be pulling in cooler air toward those parts first...?
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Hagop
Given the build quality it almost makes me wonder if this particular card had bad heat pipes/manufacturing issues causing the worse performance. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen a GPU with that problem recently. I'd love to see a 2nd unit tested because it seems like they really tried to design this card well (though at 1400 I don't blame if you didn't get a 2nd one...)
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Given the build quality it almost makes me wonder if this particular card had bad heat pipes/manufacturing issues causing the worse performance. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen a GPU with that problem recently. I'd love to see a 2nd unit tested because it seems like they really tried to design this card well (though at 1400 I don't blame if you didn't get a 2nd one...)
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Mickey
I put a 3mm thermal pad across the whole back of my 6600xt when I liquid metal and k5ed it. The package temp dropped so much I had to readjust my fan curve. The junction temp was still better but not nearly as much as package. The backplate went from slightly warm to hot. Proving it was moving a significant amount of heat from the board to the backplate. Heat moves in 3d
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I put a 3mm thermal pad across the whole back of my 6600xt when I liquid metal and k5ed it. The package temp dropped so much I had to readjust my fan curve. The junction temp was still better but not nearly as much as package. The backplate went from slightly warm to hot. Proving it was moving a significant amount of heat from the board to the backplate. Heat moves in 3d
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Manjushri
I figured those tiny fans would work by running slowly while the big main fans were off, at low load, allowing the big fans to stay off for longer maybe allowing less ramp up etc. Otherwise especially adding case fans etc let alone the main GPU fans make sense they do little to nothing lol. That said, I'm more and more curious about Maxsun as a company for sure.
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I figured those tiny fans would work by running slowly while the big main fans were off, at low load, allowing the big fans to stay off for longer maybe allowing less ramp up etc. Otherwise especially adding case fans etc let alone the main GPU fans make sense they do little to nothing lol. That said, I'm more and more curious about Maxsun as a company for sure.
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Katie
tldr;
200 gimmik.
Surprised AMD & NVIDIA skimp STILL on thermal pads. If only they just went all out and made an objectively quiet, fast, effecient, priced agressively competively & cool card...they would kill ALL competition. Just go all out for one gen, people are stretching their cards anyway, so give consumers a real reason to upgrade for once.
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tldr;
200 gimmik.
Surprised AMD & NVIDIA skimp STILL on thermal pads. If only they just went all out and made an objectively quiet, fast, effecient, priced agressively competively & cool card...they would kill ALL competition. Just go all out for one gen, people are stretching their cards anyway, so give consumers a real reason to upgrade for once.
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Auturgic
Thanks Steve. This is a cool product. I wouldn't touch it with a ten meter pole, but at least they're trying something different. I think they perhaps should have made some revisions before releasing it, which makes me wonder whether it wasn't properly tested, or whether management just ignored(or never heard) the engineers' or QA's advice.
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Thanks Steve. This is a cool product. I wouldn't touch it with a ten meter pole, but at least they're trying something different. I think they perhaps should have made some revisions before releasing it, which makes me wonder whether it wasn't properly tested, or whether management just ignored(or never heard) the engineers' or QA's advice.
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Luigi
That plastic gasket should technically even out the pressure on the die. Actual differences? Eh, not that much. Maybe a couple of degrees with the same load and ambient, but a bit useless. We used to fit them on GPUs when we put a liquid cooling block on, but we stopped with 30 Series because the results are negligible at best.
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That plastic gasket should technically even out the pressure on the die. Actual differences? Eh, not that much. Maybe a couple of degrees with the same load and ambient, but a bit useless. We used to fit them on GPUs when we put a liquid cooling block on, but we stopped with 30 Series because the results are negligible at best.
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rscott
Watching this video dawned on me, Instead of all the fans & metal ... why don't they just have a water cooled all in one unit (same card size or smaller) where radiator is on one side with a fan. Maybe someone already did it. I've only seen where the radiator is external like CPU coolers.
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Watching this video dawned on me, Instead of all the fans & metal ... why don't they just have a water cooled all in one unit (same card size or smaller) where radiator is on one side with a fan. Maybe someone already did it. I've only seen where the radiator is external like CPU coolers.
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itech
the attention they made, but some of the falters dont discount this for me, i see myself getting a card from them, if they did a gimmic free option and dual bios. evven if it means they dont retool but add caps with ducting to the existing version. someone 3D model it if you have this.
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the attention they made, but some of the falters dont discount this for me, i see myself getting a card from them, if they did a gimmic free option and dual bios. evven if it means they dont retool but add caps with ducting to the existing version. someone 3D model it if you have this.
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LizardVideoDude
It's unfortunate they went with the two gimmicky top fans. Seems like it would be a good card without the added noise & cost from them since they do nothing, and at 75 or 100 less. But guess they gotta try to stand out, since Nvidia is making it harder for the board partners.
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It's unfortunate they went with the two gimmicky top fans. Seems like it would be a good card without the added noise & cost from them since they do nothing, and at 75 or 100 less. But guess they gotta try to stand out, since Nvidia is making it harder for the board partners.
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Matthew
I wouldn't pay the mark up but I do appreciate the effort they put in to quality construction and making basically an all metal chassis. This is one of the few partner cards I have seen where the extra money spent can actually be seen in the build. It is a really cool novelty card.
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I wouldn't pay the mark up but I do appreciate the effort they put in to quality construction and making basically an all metal chassis. This is one of the few partner cards I have seen where the extra money spent can actually be seen in the build. It is a really cool novelty card.
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Teh
Might be a very clever marketing trick.
Make the card weird, let the reviews show excellent engineering and get a boost to the company reputation.
Then I thought... other outlets will just test the temperature and say it's not good, so this plan might easily backfire.
Hmm.
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Might be a very clever marketing trick.
Make the card weird, let the reviews show excellent engineering and get a boost to the company reputation.
Then I thought... other outlets will just test the temperature and say it's not good, so this plan might easily backfire.
Hmm.
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