Incredibly Efficient: AMD RX 9070 GPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 9070 XT, RTX 5070
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Date: 2025-03-08
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4GammeR4
I need to hear you guys and your point of view. I mean I know AMD is a better choice for money, but still NVIDIA seems to be better overral in my eyes.
I have bought a SAPPHIRE NITRO 9070 XT for 888,90 and MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16G VANGUARD SOC for 1339 . Its around 450 more for NVIDIA. I have both of them home already and I will be returing one of them.
They are both overpriced while NVIDIA is extremly overpriced, I think for that price of 5070 TI I should be getting a 5080 atleast.
Should I really stick with AMD, considering not that great FSR support in wide range of games and higher power draw DLSS is widely supported in many types of games and its unknown how and when FSR will be implemented in older games.
Also there is GIGABYTE RTX 5070 Ti WINDFORCE OC 16G for 1179 or MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16G GAMING TRIO OC PLUS for 1150 in stock.
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I need to hear you guys and your point of view. I mean I know AMD is a better choice for money, but still NVIDIA seems to be better overral in my eyes.
I have bought a SAPPHIRE NITRO 9070 XT for 888,90 and MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16G VANGUARD SOC for 1339 . Its around 450 more for NVIDIA. I have both of them home already and I will be returing one of them.
They are both overpriced while NVIDIA is extremly overpriced, I think for that price of 5070 TI I should be getting a 5080 atleast.
Should I really stick with AMD, considering not that great FSR support in wide range of games and higher power draw DLSS is widely supported in many types of games and its unknown how and when FSR will be implemented in older games.
Also there is GIGABYTE RTX 5070 Ti WINDFORCE OC 16G for 1179 or MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16G GAMING TRIO OC PLUS for 1150 in stock.
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veljkonikolic7788
I don't get it why everyone is generally speaking positively about these AMD cards. Yeah, right now AMD has a better offer compared to Nvidia, but is that really hard $599 for a mid-range card How's that even better than Nvidia's 5070 at $549 They should be in the same bucket of shame. (NOTE: I'm aware that 5070's are worse and generally not available, so it's not a fair comparison.)
Also did we forget that easily that AMD's 7700 XT MSRP was $449 By my calculations that's A LOT CHEAPER than what AMD offers right now. (DISCLAIMER: I can only assume that those cards are comparable across generations, maybe I'm wrong.)
Steve, you said that AMD has to nail the price and capitalize on this opportunity. But did they I don't think so.
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I don't get it why everyone is generally speaking positively about these AMD cards. Yeah, right now AMD has a better offer compared to Nvidia, but is that really hard $599 for a mid-range card How's that even better than Nvidia's 5070 at $549 They should be in the same bucket of shame. (NOTE: I'm aware that 5070's are worse and generally not available, so it's not a fair comparison.)
Also did we forget that easily that AMD's 7700 XT MSRP was $449 By my calculations that's A LOT CHEAPER than what AMD offers right now. (DISCLAIMER: I can only assume that those cards are comparable across generations, maybe I'm wrong.)
Steve, you said that AMD has to nail the price and capitalize on this opportunity. But did they I don't think so.
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gamersnexus
Here's the product I want: Get rid of the 9070, tune the 9070xt to this power draw/ efficiency, sell it for 500 bucks. If people want the last 10% of performance well past the efficiency curve, they can OC it, or get an OC partner model.
That would require AMD taking like a 35% profit margin rather than a 50% one, and they'll never do it.
Also, people who are fed up with Nvidia will apparently pay 700 bucks or more for the XT, which, lol, but if consumers are going to be irrational, and AMD just wants to be an also-ran in the dGPU space, which is clearly what they want, we get this: reviewer praise for these products that barely came in with competitive pricing, and AMD not even having enough inventory anyway.
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Here's the product I want: Get rid of the 9070, tune the 9070xt to this power draw/ efficiency, sell it for 500 bucks. If people want the last 10% of performance well past the efficiency curve, they can OC it, or get an OC partner model.
That would require AMD taking like a 35% profit margin rather than a 50% one, and they'll never do it.
Also, people who are fed up with Nvidia will apparently pay 700 bucks or more for the XT, which, lol, but if consumers are going to be irrational, and AMD just wants to be an also-ran in the dGPU space, which is clearly what they want, we get this: reviewer praise for these products that barely came in with competitive pricing, and AMD not even having enough inventory anyway.
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JikoMuskato
But even for productive workloads AMD can make sense. Like for photo editing I benefit from the additional VRAM of AMD GPUs over similar priced nVidia GPUs. And for video editing I'm using DaVinci Resolve, which actually works really good with AMD GPUs as well. There are advantages for nVidia in quite a few programs but right now I'm using programs that just work fine on AMD GPUs. Plus I always look at the medium price range. I can't (or better: don't want to as it doesn't make) pay the enourmous amount of money for nVidia if I can get the same or even better performance for less money in many cases. Yes, there are a few disadvantages in specific scenarios but none that outweight the price difference.
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But even for productive workloads AMD can make sense. Like for photo editing I benefit from the additional VRAM of AMD GPUs over similar priced nVidia GPUs. And for video editing I'm using DaVinci Resolve, which actually works really good with AMD GPUs as well. There are advantages for nVidia in quite a few programs but right now I'm using programs that just work fine on AMD GPUs. Plus I always look at the medium price range. I can't (or better: don't want to as it doesn't make) pay the enourmous amount of money for nVidia if I can get the same or even better performance for less money in many cases. Yes, there are a few disadvantages in specific scenarios but none that outweight the price difference.
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McTroyd
Quick props to your camera guy(s)... Dunno whether it was Vitalii or Tim who came up with the idea, but I liked the use of the red light to show the detail of the graphics card. Especially liked the touch of the red light behind the card, through the heat sink. As a stage lighting guy who appreciates how hard it is to show detail of matte black objects without washouts, that was a simple, clever touch. You may also find amber works well, if you don't have the red pinstripe to match. (Amber is also a compliment to blue.)
The review was comprehensive as ever, Steve, and the 9070 might be my next stop if my trusty RX 580 stops keeping up. Thanks!
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Quick props to your camera guy(s)... Dunno whether it was Vitalii or Tim who came up with the idea, but I liked the use of the red light to show the detail of the graphics card. Especially liked the touch of the red light behind the card, through the heat sink. As a stage lighting guy who appreciates how hard it is to show detail of matte black objects without washouts, that was a simple, clever touch. You may also find amber works well, if you don't have the red pinstripe to match. (Amber is also a compliment to blue.)
The review was comprehensive as ever, Steve, and the 9070 might be my next stop if my trusty RX 580 stops keeping up. Thanks!
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goodietankfunny
I'm very happy. I didn't get to leave for Microcenter earlier on launch day, so I didn't get the Sapphire Pulse like I wanted. Instead, I got the Sapphire Pure, it was better looking than the other choice I had which was the GIGABYTE non OC model. Plus, being a Sapphire, I know I'll be satisfied for the following few years and I can sell my 3080 Ti to a friend for $300. ALSO fun fact I was forced to watch the Sapphire Pulse 9070 sell out on launch day I was able to buy it on newegg right away but couldn't because I thought there was going to be a pending important discussion.
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I'm very happy. I didn't get to leave for Microcenter earlier on launch day, so I didn't get the Sapphire Pulse like I wanted. Instead, I got the Sapphire Pure, it was better looking than the other choice I had which was the GIGABYTE non OC model. Plus, being a Sapphire, I know I'll be satisfied for the following few years and I can sell my 3080 Ti to a friend for $300. ALSO fun fact I was forced to watch the Sapphire Pulse 9070 sell out on launch day I was able to buy it on newegg right away but couldn't because I thought there was going to be a pending important discussion.
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regnadkcin6702
AMD's MSRP was just as fake as Nvidia's fake MSRP. MicroCenter had a disclaimer stating that only AMD cards in the first shipment was MSRP. All cards in second shipment and after, even if second shipment was the same day, both models hot an instant $200.00 increase. They used their opportunity upstage Nvidia, only to copy Nvidia. Bots bought most inventory at Best Buy, in less than a second.All 9070 annd xt cards, along with a few 5070 ti, went from Coming Soon to Sold Out, instantly. None ever showed up as avalible to buy. AMD used their fake MSRP to fool everyone.
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AMD's MSRP was just as fake as Nvidia's fake MSRP. MicroCenter had a disclaimer stating that only AMD cards in the first shipment was MSRP. All cards in second shipment and after, even if second shipment was the same day, both models hot an instant $200.00 increase. They used their opportunity upstage Nvidia, only to copy Nvidia. Bots bought most inventory at Best Buy, in less than a second.All 9070 annd xt cards, along with a few 5070 ti, went from Coming Soon to Sold Out, instantly. None ever showed up as avalible to buy. AMD used their fake MSRP to fool everyone.
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Valarius_J
Wondering if there will be another video about how AMD bait-and-switched pretty much everyone with the information coming out now. Most cards aren't actually MSRP, those that are are only at that price temporarily, AMD isn't rebating the retailers like they promised and instead only honoring certain models in certain quantities, and seems to be charging their AIBs high prices for the chips like Nvidia.
They've essentially done everything Nvidia did just without the missing rops or melting connectors.
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Wondering if there will be another video about how AMD bait-and-switched pretty much everyone with the information coming out now. Most cards aren't actually MSRP, those that are are only at that price temporarily, AMD isn't rebating the retailers like they promised and instead only honoring certain models in certain quantities, and seems to be charging their AIBs high prices for the chips like Nvidia.
They've essentially done everything Nvidia did just without the missing rops or melting connectors.
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walter274
I'm really confused. How do you pick which cards to include Why aren't cards like the 4070 super included Why are cards like the 1060 and 2060 included Why don't you test cyberpunk with rt on at 1440p Why don't you consistently use upscaling Why are some cards used in some games, but not in others Your choices seem random. You also don't make good use out of the space in your slides, so they are harder to read than they need to be.
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I'm really confused. How do you pick which cards to include Why aren't cards like the 4070 super included Why are cards like the 1060 and 2060 included Why don't you test cyberpunk with rt on at 1440p Why don't you consistently use upscaling Why are some cards used in some games, but not in others Your choices seem random. You also don't make good use out of the space in your slides, so they are harder to read than they need to be.
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otakuza5012
I would love a video comparison of generational performance vs cost.
Will be a bit tricky averaging the prices per gen as well as having a fair benchmark But the insight I am looking for is what are these companies doing each gen in terms of performance gain vs escalating cost. Example Nvidia Pascal was a game changer, pun intended! And as result they saw fewer gamers upgrade to next gen so making a good card is bad for business.
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I would love a video comparison of generational performance vs cost.
Will be a bit tricky averaging the prices per gen as well as having a fair benchmark But the insight I am looking for is what are these companies doing each gen in terms of performance gain vs escalating cost. Example Nvidia Pascal was a game changer, pun intended! And as result they saw fewer gamers upgrade to next gen so making a good card is bad for business.
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pyroromancer
Real bummer with FF14 results. There's a lot of people that play that game that are looking for a good efficient mid-range system hopefully AMD can fix this with a driver update. I certainly have been looking for something different to play final fantasy on. But on that note the last time I bought AMD was specifically for final fantasy 14 and they really let me down with driver support for the game which was over 12 years ago
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Real bummer with FF14 results. There's a lot of people that play that game that are looking for a good efficient mid-range system hopefully AMD can fix this with a driver update. I certainly have been looking for something different to play final fantasy on. But on that note the last time I bought AMD was specifically for final fantasy 14 and they really let me down with driver support for the game which was over 12 years ago
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Merglet
Anyone else seeing a parallel to the Vega GPUs, where the 56 was considered a better buy than the 64, and that the CU count between the 9070 and and 9070XT is 56/64 At current prices the XT is the better buy, but if the non-XT was $500, it's easily the better choice 9070 for me, thanks, once prices settle down. For some reason 56 is just BETTER than 64. I have no math to prove this is correct, but it's an amazing coincidence.
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Anyone else seeing a parallel to the Vega GPUs, where the 56 was considered a better buy than the 64, and that the CU count between the 9070 and and 9070XT is 56/64 At current prices the XT is the better buy, but if the non-XT was $500, it's easily the better choice 9070 for me, thanks, once prices settle down. For some reason 56 is just BETTER than 64. I have no math to prove this is correct, but it's an amazing coincidence.
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FragEightyfive
9070 seems to be good efficiency for AMDs design and 9070xt is just beyond more optimal efficiency, sou don’t think they can gain much more without crazy power increases. Since the Nvidia 5000 has good efficiency, can we make the assumption that they could increase the power clocks further These already use quite a bit of power but this seems to be the state these chip’s are in if you want performance gains.
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9070 seems to be good efficiency for AMDs design and 9070xt is just beyond more optimal efficiency, sou don’t think they can gain much more without crazy power increases. Since the Nvidia 5000 has good efficiency, can we make the assumption that they could increase the power clocks further These already use quite a bit of power but this seems to be the state these chip’s are in if you want performance gains.
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zardoz7140
In Germany the MSRP cards solld out within a minute, sometime instantly. The only cards that remain are overpriced like the Nvidia cards. So this data is from march 7 we have aGigabyte Aorus RX 9070 XT at 1196,31 ($1.298,71); Sappire Nitro RX 9070 Gamic OC for 879,22 ($954.48) and a Gigabyte RX 9070 Gaming OC for 944,51 ($1025.36) All other cards are sold out
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In Germany the MSRP cards solld out within a minute, sometime instantly. The only cards that remain are overpriced like the Nvidia cards. So this data is from march 7 we have aGigabyte Aorus RX 9070 XT at 1196,31 ($1.298,71); Sappire Nitro RX 9070 Gamic OC for 879,22 ($954.48) and a Gigabyte RX 9070 Gaming OC for 944,51 ($1025.36) All other cards are sold out
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leighbyford635
Is Adelaide Australia. So in Aussie $
Intel b580 = $450
RTX 4060 8b = $470
RTX 4070 = $900
Radeon 9070 = $1150
RTX 5070 = $1250
RTX 4070ti super = $1750
RTX 507ti = $2000
RTX 5080 = $2700
No 9070xt on sale yet.
All in all. Ridiculous prices.
Better of buying a 2nd hand Ps5 for $400 which comes with some games.
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Is Adelaide Australia. So in Aussie $
Intel b580 = $450
RTX 4060 8b = $470
RTX 4070 = $900
Radeon 9070 = $1150
RTX 5070 = $1250
RTX 4070ti super = $1750
RTX 507ti = $2000
RTX 5080 = $2700
No 9070xt on sale yet.
All in all. Ridiculous prices.
Better of buying a 2nd hand Ps5 for $400 which comes with some games.
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Duarenteed
You wont like what I'm gonna say. But how about FPD specs on 50/90 series builds with cheepest psu. And un bottlenecked cpu ect. Along with ps5/5pro. With store price. Not MSRP. The only way to stop scalping is to threten them with consoles. Cos with pc builds costing up to (FOUR GRAND!). Pc gamers are being mugged. Disgrace!
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You wont like what I'm gonna say. But how about FPD specs on 50/90 series builds with cheepest psu. And un bottlenecked cpu ect. Along with ps5/5pro. With store price. Not MSRP. The only way to stop scalping is to threten them with consoles. Cos with pc builds costing up to (FOUR GRAND!). Pc gamers are being mugged. Disgrace!
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williamcarter3642
Can the 9070xt's bios be swapped to boost power and clock Yes, that would make it less efficient, but it might make the 9070 pricing far more competitive with the 9070xt. Kind of a case of you can't lose with either because they would be so close. I mean the 5700xt bios could be flashed to a 5700 for more power.
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Can the 9070xt's bios be swapped to boost power and clock Yes, that would make it less efficient, but it might make the 9070 pricing far more competitive with the 9070xt. Kind of a case of you can't lose with either because they would be so close. I mean the 5700xt bios could be flashed to a 5700 for more power.
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kibecru
Even though scalpers are ruining the market I'd still wish this card was 530 instead of 550 because I always tend to look at price per performance instead of things like energy consumption. I don't live in the US so all this scalper talk goes over my head. Hopefully amd can keep up with the demand so scalpers get screwed.
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Even though scalpers are ruining the market I'd still wish this card was 530 instead of 550 because I always tend to look at price per performance instead of things like energy consumption. I don't live in the US so all this scalper talk goes over my head. Hopefully amd can keep up with the demand so scalpers get screwed.
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Izmael1310
Do I understand it correctly that if you MSRP of a nvidia card is USD 999 in the USA that does not include the state/local VAT So although it is advertised as 999 USD card when you buy it (lets assume they are in stock) as a customer in Best Buy for example in California. You have to pay like 1070 USD correct
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Do I understand it correctly that if you MSRP of a nvidia card is USD 999 in the USA that does not include the state/local VAT So although it is advertised as 999 USD card when you buy it (lets assume they are in stock) as a customer in Best Buy for example in California. You have to pay like 1070 USD correct
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Jeffery_USBP
its also important to note that all this is with the best Gaming CPU available. If you dont have the best cpu available (the other 99 percent of us) then these gaps will be much less. In other words, anything 4 to 8 percent difference is basically no difference unless you have that fastest cpu available.
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its also important to note that all this is with the best Gaming CPU available. If you dont have the best cpu available (the other 99 percent of us) then these gaps will be much less. In other words, anything 4 to 8 percent difference is basically no difference unless you have that fastest cpu available.
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