HW News - Sony PS5 & Liquid Metal, RTX 3090 Using GDDR6X, Fortnite's War on Apple & Google
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Date: 2020-08-17
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JETWTF
30-70% revenue split isn't unheard of and isn't just done with software. It isn't even egregious, just sounds like it is. Running a store costs money, and sometimes that 30% is single digit profits. Regardless, if your product is going to sell millions of units you are supposed to negotiate that split, it is negotiable. If the store wants any money from your millions of units to be sold they will come to the negotiating table.
And Sweeny is just greedy, Fortnite and all the MTX available has been paid for many times over, that 70% from sales through Apple or Googles store is pure profit. What industry makes 70% profit from sales? What industry makes the 100% profit he wants? It's not like every copy of the game needs to be built from scratch like a mod mat, it's created once and done, put it on a store and they cover the server costs to distribute. No, I cannot back that greed level up, if he wants to sell on their store and they have a 30-70% split on sales he can live with 70% pure profit, the store deserves to get paid.
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30-70% revenue split isn't unheard of and isn't just done with software. It isn't even egregious, just sounds like it is. Running a store costs money, and sometimes that 30% is single digit profits. Regardless, if your product is going to sell millions of units you are supposed to negotiate that split, it is negotiable. If the store wants any money from your millions of units to be sold they will come to the negotiating table.
And Sweeny is just greedy, Fortnite and all the MTX available has been paid for many times over, that 70% from sales through Apple or Googles store is pure profit. What industry makes 70% profit from sales? What industry makes the 100% profit he wants? It's not like every copy of the game needs to be built from scratch like a mod mat, it's created once and done, put it on a store and they cover the server costs to distribute. No, I cannot back that greed level up, if he wants to sell on their store and they have a 30-70% split on sales he can live with 70% pure profit, the store deserves to get paid.
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HeadHunter
Hype for the new Nvidia GPUs? There was one for the 20 series but this time I feel Nvidia are the only ones really hyped by their next GPUs. After the RTX performance debacle both in Ray-Tracing and rasterized performance of the 20 series that forced Nvidia to not really try optimize the drivers for the 10 series just to make their 20 series look a bit better (first time when the previous generation is almost ignored) people are just waiting for the prices. Of course, the usual shills will post videos with Just buy titles but most enthusiasts will likely wait for RDNA2 to see where the true value is. I don't worry for Nvidia, there will be enough idiots to buy the xx80ti at 1999 for Nvidia to make the money but it could be Nvidia's turning point, just like it happened to Intel 3 years ago. Intel ignored the omens and now they're perceived as laggards by the stock markets. Never despise the enthusiast market because even if it's a niche market your reputation on that market ends up affecting your big markets too.
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Hype for the new Nvidia GPUs? There was one for the 20 series but this time I feel Nvidia are the only ones really hyped by their next GPUs. After the RTX performance debacle both in Ray-Tracing and rasterized performance of the 20 series that forced Nvidia to not really try optimize the drivers for the 10 series just to make their 20 series look a bit better (first time when the previous generation is almost ignored) people are just waiting for the prices. Of course, the usual shills will post videos with Just buy titles but most enthusiasts will likely wait for RDNA2 to see where the true value is. I don't worry for Nvidia, there will be enough idiots to buy the xx80ti at 1999 for Nvidia to make the money but it could be Nvidia's turning point, just like it happened to Intel 3 years ago. Intel ignored the omens and now they're perceived as laggards by the stock markets. Never despise the enthusiast market because even if it's a niche market your reputation on that market ends up affecting your big markets too.
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Joe
You're right, the cut of that sale is 30%. Thirty percent. In the case of Epic and Fortnite, that is worth a fight. I think they expected to be kicked off the platforms when they bypassed the storefronts' extortion (as you went on to say), and had the lawsuit waiting in the wings. And I think they have the better antitrust case against Apple, where there is no way to reach the huge number of iDevices without Apple's proprietary storefront. Multi-billion-dollar David vs trillion-dollar Goliath--yes, I think the metaphor fits. Any win here would be a win for everyone (except Apple, and hopefully Google).
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You're right, the cut of that sale is 30%. Thirty percent. In the case of Epic and Fortnite, that is worth a fight. I think they expected to be kicked off the platforms when they bypassed the storefronts' extortion (as you went on to say), and had the lawsuit waiting in the wings. And I think they have the better antitrust case against Apple, where there is no way to reach the huge number of iDevices without Apple's proprietary storefront. Multi-billion-dollar David vs trillion-dollar Goliath--yes, I think the metaphor fits. Any win here would be a win for everyone (except Apple, and hopefully Google).
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Zarcondeegrissom
640x480 in 1999, oof, I moved past 640x480 VGA back in 1990 with 800x600 SVGA, then, later on, XGA 1024x768. by the time 1999 rolled around, I was on triple-head 1280x960 monitors. I guess for games, 640 was ok, Battlezone did look incredible at UXGA 1600x1200, lol. Of late, I do find that beyond a point, higher-res isn't great for everything, so more pixels is a bit dated, color and brightness precision would be a nice thing to have again instead of MOWR pixels at MOWR cepheid absolute magnitudeS , lol.
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640x480 in 1999, oof, I moved past 640x480 VGA back in 1990 with 800x600 SVGA, then, later on, XGA 1024x768. by the time 1999 rolled around, I was on triple-head 1280x960 monitors. I guess for games, 640 was ok, Battlezone did look incredible at UXGA 1600x1200, lol. Of late, I do find that beyond a point, higher-res isn't great for everything, so more pixels is a bit dated, color and brightness precision would be a nice thing to have again instead of MOWR pixels at MOWR cepheid absolute magnitudeS , lol.
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ShroudedWolf51
>Playstation
>liquid metal
Look. I'm no stranger to the typical year of lying that leads up to a console launch about all of these mythical capabilities of the device that it's supposed to have or whatever. But, this is really pushing credibility. This is a device that will be pushed out the door at a price well under a grand and the vast majority of the customers will not even know what TIM is, much less appreciate the benefits of it. There is no way this isn't some marketing stunt.
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>Playstation
>liquid metal
Look. I'm no stranger to the typical year of lying that leads up to a console launch about all of these mythical capabilities of the device that it's supposed to have or whatever. But, this is really pushing credibility. This is a device that will be pushed out the door at a price well under a grand and the vast majority of the customers will not even know what TIM is, much less appreciate the benefits of it. There is no way this isn't some marketing stunt.
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Last
Epic Games is not your friend. They purposefully violated the TOS for both google and apple s services so they could get banned, thus giving them reason to sue. Court Theatre, and Big Tech are choosing sides. Spotify is backing Epic, as is Tinder s parent company.
I m sorry, isn t Epic like 40% owned by China? Historically not the underdog. F that and the horse it rode in on. I m no fan of Google and Apple but I will defend American owned businesses from foreign controlled business harassment.
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Epic Games is not your friend. They purposefully violated the TOS for both google and apple s services so they could get banned, thus giving them reason to sue. Court Theatre, and Big Tech are choosing sides. Spotify is backing Epic, as is Tinder s parent company.
I m sorry, isn t Epic like 40% owned by China? Historically not the underdog. F that and the horse it rode in on. I m no fan of Google and Apple but I will defend American owned businesses from foreign controlled business harassment.
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Thomas
Kinda sick of hearing Intel's GPU hype. I know it's very exiting and we desperately need competition, but put up or shut up. Intel doesn't need to worry about getting the word out at this point. AMD needs somebody breathing down their backs on the GPU side like they are doing to nVidia. OK, maybe AMD isn't breathing down nVidia's neck so much as they are glaring at them from behind a plant in the corner. (I'm squishing your head!)
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Kinda sick of hearing Intel's GPU hype. I know it's very exiting and we desperately need competition, but put up or shut up. Intel doesn't need to worry about getting the word out at this point. AMD needs somebody breathing down their backs on the GPU side like they are doing to nVidia. OK, maybe AMD isn't breathing down nVidia's neck so much as they are glaring at them from behind a plant in the corner. (I'm squishing your head!)
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B-b-butts
I love how little Timmy is crying over Apple and Android demanding a cut and having complete control over their own stores (because why wouldn't they?), yet never said a word about Sony that run PSN in exact same way. It's almost like there's double standards when it comes to companies you're partnered with
Still, it's funny to see Tim Tim act like he's a big boy even after a blunder that was his war with Steam
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I love how little Timmy is crying over Apple and Android demanding a cut and having complete control over their own stores (because why wouldn't they?), yet never said a word about Sony that run PSN in exact same way. It's almost like there's double standards when it comes to companies you're partnered with
Still, it's funny to see Tim Tim act like he's a big boy even after a blunder that was his war with Steam
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Generously
Mozilla's layoffs, while unfortunate, was also predictable. Their browser is superb, and have a lot of great privacy features built-in. Thing is, they always advocated for a free and open internet, and then out of the blue decided to become political. I'm not going to discuss the politics here, as they aren't relevant, but suffice it to say it hurt them.
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Mozilla's layoffs, while unfortunate, was also predictable. Their browser is superb, and have a lot of great privacy features built-in. Thing is, they always advocated for a free and open internet, and then out of the blue decided to become political. I'm not going to discuss the politics here, as they aren't relevant, but suffice it to say it hurt them.
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itech
Nvidia going with a 3090 instead of 3080 Ti for their flagship makes more sense for later releases with Super/Ti cards, this adds at least one sku, the 3080 Ti/Super, and potentially a second new sku, the 3090 Ti/Super.
Personally, though, I'm still waiting for a Super Ti card. Just to make the STi joke. Please, Nvidia, release a STi card eventually.
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Nvidia going with a 3090 instead of 3080 Ti for their flagship makes more sense for later releases with Super/Ti cards, this adds at least one sku, the 3080 Ti/Super, and potentially a second new sku, the 3090 Ti/Super.
Personally, though, I'm still waiting for a Super Ti card. Just to make the STi joke. Please, Nvidia, release a STi card eventually.
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