Do Not Build a PC with Water Cooling - Chris Titus Tech
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Date: 2022-03-21
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Dj
I have to agree that using an aio is not that great in comparison to the more traditional heatsinks ... however those are not able to break your mainboard in two (I have actually seen people who did this with tower heatsinks)
Going custom loop is great for getting better temps but it is also great for having a more silent pc But don-t go with just one 360 rad ... the Benefit is when you have multiple rads
For example I have a 480 and a 280 in my case and I can get away with sub 500 rpm on my fans when running prime95 and furmark for a few hours
I know that Noctua there air coolers are really good but in my opinion the option to have more surface area for cooling makes my pc produce less noise than even those
So for a silent pc it might also be good to do
However if you work with audio I would recommend NOT to use hardline tubing
Stick with soft tubing and compression fittings since these will keep the tubing in place Where hard tubing will fail to do this
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I have to agree that using an aio is not that great in comparison to the more traditional heatsinks ... however those are not able to break your mainboard in two (I have actually seen people who did this with tower heatsinks)
Going custom loop is great for getting better temps but it is also great for having a more silent pc But don-t go with just one 360 rad ... the Benefit is when you have multiple rads
For example I have a 480 and a 280 in my case and I can get away with sub 500 rpm on my fans when running prime95 and furmark for a few hours
I know that Noctua there air coolers are really good but in my opinion the option to have more surface area for cooling makes my pc produce less noise than even those
So for a silent pc it might also be good to do
However if you work with audio I would recommend NOT to use hardline tubing
Stick with soft tubing and compression fittings since these will keep the tubing in place Where hard tubing will fail to do this
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Sean
I see your point but I disagree with you. I've been building and working on/with computers since the early 2000's. I remember the day the nvidia FX gpu's launched.
Yes a 100$ + Nactua CPU cool will work for noobs. People that want awesome performance but have zero desire to work on there system or have the know how.
Anyone that enjoys working on PC's and finds it calming and relaxing. A Hobbie. If you have just a little know how it's hard to screw up. I do not in any way recommend hard tube except for a show pc. Soft tube is 100% the way to go.
The benefits you get with 120mm rad space per component is silence. Operating temperatures. Over clocking head room if you desire.
To say no one should water cool. Well thats coming from someone who does not see building PC's as a Hobbie but as a job.
You sir are not a pc hobbiest. And it shows.
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I see your point but I disagree with you. I've been building and working on/with computers since the early 2000's. I remember the day the nvidia FX gpu's launched.
Yes a 100$ + Nactua CPU cool will work for noobs. People that want awesome performance but have zero desire to work on there system or have the know how.
Anyone that enjoys working on PC's and finds it calming and relaxing. A Hobbie. If you have just a little know how it's hard to screw up. I do not in any way recommend hard tube except for a show pc. Soft tube is 100% the way to go.
The benefits you get with 120mm rad space per component is silence. Operating temperatures. Over clocking head room if you desire.
To say no one should water cool. Well thats coming from someone who does not see building PC's as a Hobbie but as a job.
You sir are not a pc hobbiest. And it shows.
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Chris
Didn't watch the entire video? Here are the takeaways for those that just want to troll:
1. Heatsink/Fan = More reliable and less maintenance
2. A custom loop gives better thermals, but it isn't significant enough unless you are doing extreme overclocking.
3. Noise is actually quieter on the noctua solution.
4. 120mm AIO will perform WORSE than a noctua/heatsink combo.
5. The failure rate is lower and the life cycle is much longer on a heatsink/fan.
6. mITX Cases that can't fit a good heatsink/fan combo.
Those are the takeaways, if you don't overclock, have micro build, or just doing it for an art piece... DO NOT DO IT!
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Didn't watch the entire video? Here are the takeaways for those that just want to troll:
1. Heatsink/Fan = More reliable and less maintenance
2. A custom loop gives better thermals, but it isn't significant enough unless you are doing extreme overclocking.
3. Noise is actually quieter on the noctua solution.
4. 120mm AIO will perform WORSE than a noctua/heatsink combo.
5. The failure rate is lower and the life cycle is much longer on a heatsink/fan.
6. mITX Cases that can't fit a good heatsink/fan combo.
Those are the takeaways, if you don't overclock, have micro build, or just doing it for an art piece... DO NOT DO IT!
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Ross
Everything has its place this is advise I give too doesn't even need to be high end noctua I've got dual fan cooler master tower on my main rig n does awsome job son has a hyper 212 evo and other son just has old stock Intel cooler with big copper slug in it and temps are perfectly fine on all of them kid with Intel system has non oc motherboard so no point in anything more n tbh I pulled that cooler from a really old system the 212 evo is on a r5 1600x and even overclocked its fine although it runs stock n same for mine pick the right tool for job if cpu doesn't run to hot no need to go all out with cooling
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Everything has its place this is advise I give too doesn't even need to be high end noctua I've got dual fan cooler master tower on my main rig n does awsome job son has a hyper 212 evo and other son just has old stock Intel cooler with big copper slug in it and temps are perfectly fine on all of them kid with Intel system has non oc motherboard so no point in anything more n tbh I pulled that cooler from a really old system the 212 evo is on a r5 1600x and even overclocked its fine although it runs stock n same for mine pick the right tool for job if cpu doesn't run to hot no need to go all out with cooling
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Intel
It-s a shame as I have no issues with the topic of this video but the tone and information is totally uninformed and arrogant by talking in absolutes. Saying global statements like -don-t do it- or -it-s gonna fail- or -it-s a waste of money- does nothing of benefit for anyone. Also comparing why a data centre is not WC and comparing to a PC is just complete BS. I love noctua as well have 12 of their fans in my custom loop. Funny thing is the only parts for me that has failed are the fans, 3 of them in fact.
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It-s a shame as I have no issues with the topic of this video but the tone and information is totally uninformed and arrogant by talking in absolutes. Saying global statements like -don-t do it- or -it-s gonna fail- or -it-s a waste of money- does nothing of benefit for anyone. Also comparing why a data centre is not WC and comparing to a PC is just complete BS. I love noctua as well have 12 of their fans in my custom loop. Funny thing is the only parts for me that has failed are the fans, 3 of them in fact.
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Colin
Its not a waste of money if you get what you want out of it, it's totally subjective.
Yearly maintenance is hardly a big deal.
Personally I wouldn't custom watercool only a cpu as for a bit more money you can cool gpu too, and gpu cooling is where you can sometimes knock off 50 degrees as well as eliminating (to some extent) the fan noise made by air cooled gpu.
I'd say to use Barrow fittings if you do hard-line custom watercool, it will save some money at least.
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Its not a waste of money if you get what you want out of it, it's totally subjective.
Yearly maintenance is hardly a big deal.
Personally I wouldn't custom watercool only a cpu as for a bit more money you can cool gpu too, and gpu cooling is where you can sometimes knock off 50 degrees as well as eliminating (to some extent) the fan noise made by air cooled gpu.
I'd say to use Barrow fittings if you do hard-line custom watercool, it will save some money at least.
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Tris
-its not something you can just pick up and have it work off the get go-.
I did exactly that, 6 years on my water cooled rig still runs fine, its also near silent, looks great, stable temps.
This video is full of some utter nonsense. Servers arent watercooled because they live in the server room and you arent sat right next to it.
You average server rack also sounds like a jet engine.
Guess what? Fans also fail.
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-its not something you can just pick up and have it work off the get go-.
I did exactly that, 6 years on my water cooled rig still runs fine, its also near silent, looks great, stable temps.
This video is full of some utter nonsense. Servers arent watercooled because they live in the server room and you arent sat right next to it.
You average server rack also sounds like a jet engine.
Guess what? Fans also fail.
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Zfast4y0u
its like saying dont tune your car. some do it for looks, some cause its cool, someone want his stuff run ice cold even on load, some want silence, some just like costumising their pc, other are geeks. its personal preference. oh and, AIO are worst piece of crap that was ever invented, if i had to choose air vs aio in my build, i would go air, and i dont air cool my pcs.
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its like saying dont tune your car. some do it for looks, some cause its cool, someone want his stuff run ice cold even on load, some want silence, some just like costumising their pc, other are geeks. its personal preference. oh and, AIO are worst piece of crap that was ever invented, if i had to choose air vs aio in my build, i would go air, and i dont air cool my pcs.
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cwat
I know this is off topic but what fans are those in the pc behind you? I thought your weren't a fan of rgb lol? Anyway I don't care much for rgb but I do kinda like the fans to have it. I only care about setting them to blue and would like to do away with the bloatware crap software you have to have to control them. So was just wondering how you have that pc setup.
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I know this is off topic but what fans are those in the pc behind you? I thought your weren't a fan of rgb lol? Anyway I don't care much for rgb but I do kinda like the fans to have it. I only care about setting them to blue and would like to do away with the bloatware crap software you have to have to control them. So was just wondering how you have that pc setup.
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GamerTech
It's like saying don't buy airconditioner it needs cleaning maintenance every couple of months ..
And use electric fan so you don't need to do maintenance it's cheap and long lasting.
So what you get?
In air-conditioned room feels so good.
In room w/ fan only so hot and air blowing from fan is hot specially during summer -
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It's like saying don't buy airconditioner it needs cleaning maintenance every couple of months ..
And use electric fan so you don't need to do maintenance it's cheap and long lasting.
So what you get?
In air-conditioned room feels so good.
In room w/ fan only so hot and air blowing from fan is hot specially during summer -
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