DistroWatch Is Manipulating You, So Let's Fix The Rankings! DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Eric
-Right now MX linux is number 1, we know it doesn't deserve to be number 1-...... I've been using various linux/unix distros for work and personal use for something like 20+ years. Over those years, I can pretty well guarantee that whatever distro is sitting on the top of distrowatch is the current leader in terms of being the best out of box -desktop experience- available in linux at that time to someone trying to get a desktop experience working well who may not be a linux expert. Back in the day, it was stuff like debian, mandrake, fedora, redhat, suse, then ubuntu for many years, then came distros that solved the biggest out of box annoyances with ubuntu, like mint, pcoslinux, manjaro, elementary, and those rose. Then ubuntu abandoned the desktop when they decided to go -unity- (their -windows 8 move) and fell out of favor with desktop experience seekers who use distrowatch as the barometer. In the last couple years, we've seen rise of MX linux because it seeks to solve many of the same -out of the box- desktop user issues with previous leaders in this area like mint/manjaro, and has solved many of them successfully. If I need to spin up a no-hassle linux box that has the highest probability of -just working- with some piece of software in the repos, and I need something a bit more bleeding edge to work with new hardware, MX linux is the current leader, and deserves to be #1 on some sort of list.
With that being said, there are many examples of -professional/commercial- nix OS's geared towards actually performing a business function like Proxmox, Security Onion, Untangle, ClearOS, Kali, TrueNAS etc... that have so much more real-world functionality for their intended purpose than even the best -desktop experience- nixtro, yet they rarely show up anywhere meaningful on distrowatch.
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-Right now MX linux is number 1, we know it doesn't deserve to be number 1-...... I've been using various linux/unix distros for work and personal use for something like 20+ years. Over those years, I can pretty well guarantee that whatever distro is sitting on the top of distrowatch is the current leader in terms of being the best out of box -desktop experience- available in linux at that time to someone trying to get a desktop experience working well who may not be a linux expert. Back in the day, it was stuff like debian, mandrake, fedora, redhat, suse, then ubuntu for many years, then came distros that solved the biggest out of box annoyances with ubuntu, like mint, pcoslinux, manjaro, elementary, and those rose. Then ubuntu abandoned the desktop when they decided to go -unity- (their -windows 8 move) and fell out of favor with desktop experience seekers who use distrowatch as the barometer. In the last couple years, we've seen rise of MX linux because it seeks to solve many of the same -out of the box- desktop user issues with previous leaders in this area like mint/manjaro, and has solved many of them successfully. If I need to spin up a no-hassle linux box that has the highest probability of -just working- with some piece of software in the repos, and I need something a bit more bleeding edge to work with new hardware, MX linux is the current leader, and deserves to be #1 on some sort of list.
With that being said, there are many examples of -professional/commercial- nix OS's geared towards actually performing a business function like Proxmox, Security Onion, Untangle, ClearOS, Kali, TrueNAS etc... that have so much more real-world functionality for their intended purpose than even the best -desktop experience- nixtro, yet they rarely show up anywhere meaningful on distrowatch.
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Kenny
Why would you be upset by this? I have known this of course for years but still its interesting to see what people are visiting distrowatch.. lol Its a smart way for distrowatch to have more hits.. there is no bad manipulation at all. You can change all of this. You can single highhandedly PAY distrowatch the amount that they make per month and tell them that you will sponsor them as long as they have a REAL ranking list. You get a free website with all this content with reviews and links and info... and you are complaining about it? Im not....
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Why would you be upset by this? I have known this of course for years but still its interesting to see what people are visiting distrowatch.. lol Its a smart way for distrowatch to have more hits.. there is no bad manipulation at all. You can change all of this. You can single highhandedly PAY distrowatch the amount that they make per month and tell them that you will sponsor them as long as they have a REAL ranking list. You get a free website with all this content with reviews and links and info... and you are complaining about it? Im not....
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John
hmmm, not sure too many Arch users are onboard with this. Arch is down to pos.13 for the past 7 days and remains at 18 for the last 6 months. Still a very useful video Derek and opened my eyes to Distrowatch. I would have assumed and trusted that the chart reflected the amount of actual OS downloads. Page hits on the DW website mean nothing. Anyone considering Arch goes straight to the Archlinux.org or the Archwiki. And you're correct that it's misinformation and a disservice to the Linux community. I'm removing it from my bookmarks bar.
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hmmm, not sure too many Arch users are onboard with this. Arch is down to pos.13 for the past 7 days and remains at 18 for the last 6 months. Still a very useful video Derek and opened my eyes to Distrowatch. I would have assumed and trusted that the chart reflected the amount of actual OS downloads. Page hits on the DW website mean nothing. Anyone considering Arch goes straight to the Archlinux.org or the Archwiki. And you're correct that it's misinformation and a disservice to the Linux community. I'm removing it from my bookmarks bar.
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Susan
I have a question you might be able to answer, what Linux distro's ship with python 3 as default python? and don't have any python 2 software or dependencies?
At the moment I use Linux Mint 19.3 with cinnamon desktop and I mostly like it but it does seem to do quite a few updates for stuff that I probably don't have installed and it still has python 2 as the default version of python which is somewhat annoying.
So I am looking for a new Linux distro.
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I have a question you might be able to answer, what Linux distro's ship with python 3 as default python? and don't have any python 2 software or dependencies?
At the moment I use Linux Mint 19.3 with cinnamon desktop and I mostly like it but it does seem to do quite a few updates for stuff that I probably don't have installed and it still has python 2 as the default version of python which is somewhat annoying.
So I am looking for a new Linux distro.
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hottyson
I use Xubuntu and I know that the Ubuntu is the most used distro. I find the DistroWatch ranking useful because it helps me know how many page hits each is getting. This rant about PEOPLE not reading the words, -page hit rankings- is a personal problem. DistroWatch is not hurting the Linux community. They provide a valuable service to me and many to find out about other distros.
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I use Xubuntu and I know that the Ubuntu is the most used distro. I find the DistroWatch ranking useful because it helps me know how many page hits each is getting. This rant about PEOPLE not reading the words, -page hit rankings- is a personal problem. DistroWatch is not hurting the Linux community. They provide a valuable service to me and many to find out about other distros.
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my
so can i go to the distrowatch site any number of times per day and have it count for that distro? For instance, if I go to Arch/Distrowatch 25 times today, will the count go up by 25?
EDIT: Nevermind, read it counts per day per IP.
also, is there any other site that tries to bring the distros together in an orderly and searchable way?
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so can i go to the distrowatch site any number of times per day and have it count for that distro? For instance, if I go to Arch/Distrowatch 25 times today, will the count go up by 25?
EDIT: Nevermind, read it counts per day per IP.
also, is there any other site that tries to bring the distros together in an orderly and searchable way?
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John
Done deal home page is now Arch at distrowatch. Go Arch! I have been scratching my head for months about the whole MX Linux ranking! There is no way more people are using that over Ubuntu and Mint no way, not possible! Tell me Mint is getting close to Ubuntu maybe Manjaro but MX Linux not possible.
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Done deal home page is now Arch at distrowatch. Go Arch! I have been scratching my head for months about the whole MX Linux ranking! There is no way more people are using that over Ubuntu and Mint no way, not possible! Tell me Mint is getting close to Ubuntu maybe Manjaro but MX Linux not possible.
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Franz
Hey, to be fair I never heard about MX before I saw the ranking. As a long time debian user I thought I should give it a try ... and it turns out I love MX. Also I got manipulated by DistroTube. This bald guy told me something about Manjaro and it turns out I like this too :-)
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Hey, to be fair I never heard about MX before I saw the ranking. As a long time debian user I thought I should give it a try ... and it turns out I love MX. Also I got manipulated by DistroTube. This bald guy told me something about Manjaro and it turns out I like this too :-)
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Brett
This is funny. Haha, but I see his point. Also wanna throw my 2 cents out there that there is like a completely separate list of distros awaiting evaluation and what not on -Submit Distribution- at the top. Check it out for another cool undeserving ranked list of distros. ;)
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This is funny. Haha, but I see his point. Also wanna throw my 2 cents out there that there is like a completely separate list of distros awaiting evaluation and what not on -Submit Distribution- at the top. Check it out for another cool undeserving ranked list of distros. ;)
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Rogier
i only visit distrowatch for the news and distro specifics (like what packages and versions the stock install provides, or what a minimal install consists of.) The ranks i haven't even considered as being serious, or any ranking without actually interviewing real users.
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i only visit distrowatch for the news and distro specifics (like what packages and versions the stock install provides, or what a minimal install consists of.) The ranks i haven't even considered as being serious, or any ranking without actually interviewing real users.
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