AMD talks Ryzen 3000 and Radeon 5700 series launch - The Full Nerd special edition
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Date: 2022-03-15
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7: 40 - Ryzen benchmark numbers-
9: 23 - How proud are you of Ryzen? -
11: 25 - Radeon 5700 offers RTX 2070 FE performance
15: 15 - Navi naming system and Vega's future-
18: 47 - Windows 1903 update and performance improvement for Ryzen-
21: 10 - CPPC2 (1-2ms instead of 30ms) comes only with chipset drivers for Zen 2-
22: 40 - Why not GDDR6 for the new cards? -
24: 30 - CPPC2 will work with old MBs which has BIOS update for Zen 2-
27: 00 - PCIe 4 discussion-
27: 50 - Radeon 5700 and Crossfire performance-
30: 00 - Using 8+ cores and game development-
36: 41 - Why does AMD need to make desktop graphic cards? -
39: 20 - Ray Tracing, Content Adaptive Shading and Image sharpening, Display Stream Compression-
45: 05 - Radeon 5700 clocking and cooling design (axial/blower)-
48: 58 - CPU mainsteam competition - i9-9900k vs Ryzen 9 3900X-
51: 15 - Game Cache (L3 Cache) - marketing, benefits, latency-
54: 50 - Motherboard performance difference and 3rd gen Threadripper-
59: 53 - Is the symbolism of 7/7 so valuable? -
1: 01: 50 - RAM speed, overclocking, memory controller-
1: 05: 11 - The leaked Intel's newsletter-
1: 08: 57 - Plans for the APUs-
1: 13: 14 - Radeon's clocking-
1: 16: 44 - Nvidia: -We got most of that stuff already-
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7: 40 - Ryzen benchmark numbers-
9: 23 - How proud are you of Ryzen? -
11: 25 - Radeon 5700 offers RTX 2070 FE performance
15: 15 - Navi naming system and Vega's future-
18: 47 - Windows 1903 update and performance improvement for Ryzen-
21: 10 - CPPC2 (1-2ms instead of 30ms) comes only with chipset drivers for Zen 2-
22: 40 - Why not GDDR6 for the new cards? -
24: 30 - CPPC2 will work with old MBs which has BIOS update for Zen 2-
27: 00 - PCIe 4 discussion-
27: 50 - Radeon 5700 and Crossfire performance-
30: 00 - Using 8+ cores and game development-
36: 41 - Why does AMD need to make desktop graphic cards? -
39: 20 - Ray Tracing, Content Adaptive Shading and Image sharpening, Display Stream Compression-
45: 05 - Radeon 5700 clocking and cooling design (axial/blower)-
48: 58 - CPU mainsteam competition - i9-9900k vs Ryzen 9 3900X-
51: 15 - Game Cache (L3 Cache) - marketing, benefits, latency-
54: 50 - Motherboard performance difference and 3rd gen Threadripper-
59: 53 - Is the symbolism of 7/7 so valuable? -
1: 01: 50 - RAM speed, overclocking, memory controller-
1: 05: 11 - The leaked Intel's newsletter-
1: 08: 57 - Plans for the APUs-
1: 13: 14 - Radeon's clocking-
1: 16: 44 - Nvidia: -We got most of that stuff already-
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Jeffrey
-. transparent and honest-
Okay, but here's a few things I have a PROBLEM with related to Ryzen 3000:
#1 - AMD said that all AM4 motherboards would support Ryzen then had to take it back (they should have just kept quiet.
#2 - AMD said there'd be PCIe v4. 0 support for some existing motherboard (top x16 slot) before they had to take that back too.
#3 - AMD has made claims of -half the power- due to 7nm but rumors don't suggest that
#4 - AMD has strange TDP values for the CPU's. One of the 6-cores is 95W TDP and the 12-core is 105W TDP. I know that TDP doesn't mean actual power drawn by the CPU (though it should) but how do these numbers make any sense at all? AMD is picking TDP values without telling us what they actually mean, I guess hoping to convince you that they are more efficient than they really are?
#5 - AMD showed the TEMPERATURE results using a FLIR camera to prove how cool the CPU's run. Except that you can't use a FLIR camera with such a reflective surface as they did (as proven by Steve from Gamers Nexus.
Do I think Ryzen will be generally impressive? Yes. That also makes me wonder why they are making these odd, unnecessary statements.
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-. transparent and honest-
Okay, but here's a few things I have a PROBLEM with related to Ryzen 3000:
#1 - AMD said that all AM4 motherboards would support Ryzen then had to take it back (they should have just kept quiet.
#2 - AMD said there'd be PCIe v4. 0 support for some existing motherboard (top x16 slot) before they had to take that back too.
#3 - AMD has made claims of -half the power- due to 7nm but rumors don't suggest that
#4 - AMD has strange TDP values for the CPU's. One of the 6-cores is 95W TDP and the 12-core is 105W TDP. I know that TDP doesn't mean actual power drawn by the CPU (though it should) but how do these numbers make any sense at all? AMD is picking TDP values without telling us what they actually mean, I guess hoping to convince you that they are more efficient than they really are?
#5 - AMD showed the TEMPERATURE results using a FLIR camera to prove how cool the CPU's run. Except that you can't use a FLIR camera with such a reflective surface as they did (as proven by Steve from Gamers Nexus.
Do I think Ryzen will be generally impressive? Yes. That also makes me wonder why they are making these odd, unnecessary statements.
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Star
my AMD 1700 oc still rocks solid and handles anything -
and 3200 low latency ram-
get high fps in games-
butter smooth-
Just an update. -
I use to screw around with a whole couple of different windows versions. 1600+1700+1803+1903 builds. -
Its been proven by two websites that windows is as fault with the kernel and cpu time stamps. -
There is absolutely nothing wrong with ryzen cpusas it was build on intel back then. -
Now however it was shown running faster on linux the same programs. because linux doesnt have a cpu cycle problem. -
Secondly i have now tried two different versions of windows 1903 build and it has a kernel patch that fixes the cpu cycles time stamp. -
It is a lot better and smoother in games now. -
Desktop performance is also instant now when clicking on things. -
1903 build for the win
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my AMD 1700 oc still rocks solid and handles anything -
and 3200 low latency ram-
get high fps in games-
butter smooth-
Just an update. -
I use to screw around with a whole couple of different windows versions. 1600+1700+1803+1903 builds. -
Its been proven by two websites that windows is as fault with the kernel and cpu time stamps. -
There is absolutely nothing wrong with ryzen cpusas it was build on intel back then. -
Now however it was shown running faster on linux the same programs. because linux doesnt have a cpu cycle problem. -
Secondly i have now tried two different versions of windows 1903 build and it has a kernel patch that fixes the cpu cycles time stamp. -
It is a lot better and smoother in games now. -
Desktop performance is also instant now when clicking on things. -
1903 build for the win
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Bill
I also have another question that would be nice to see if it's even been considered but here goes.
I have always supported AMD because they are willing to push tech. If we left it up to Intel we would still be using 32bit and a single core and we do have a lot to be thankful to AMD because where we are now is a direct cause and effect of trying to do things differently.
What I really would like to know is --Has AMD ever considered moving cpu's from 64 bit to a 128 bit bus. If it would help increase performance down the road and if it's ever been considered?
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I also have another question that would be nice to see if it's even been considered but here goes.
I have always supported AMD because they are willing to push tech. If we left it up to Intel we would still be using 32bit and a single core and we do have a lot to be thankful to AMD because where we are now is a direct cause and effect of trying to do things differently.
What I really would like to know is --Has AMD ever considered moving cpu's from 64 bit to a 128 bit bus. If it would help increase performance down the road and if it's ever been considered?
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MarcasswellbMD
Time stamp: 47: 00 He should have just said, -Hey the Blower still is easier and cheaper for us to make elastically and we know People don't really care for it that much, But we were able to invest more time N money on what matter's, that's price to performance, And we did make it Quieter and Cooler than ever before and left it at that-. Scott if you are paying any attention!
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Time stamp: 47: 00 He should have just said, -Hey the Blower still is easier and cheaper for us to make elastically and we know People don't really care for it that much, But we were able to invest more time N money on what matter's, that's price to performance, And we did make it Quieter and Cooler than ever before and left it at that-. Scott if you are paying any attention!
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GTTwincam
I still run 32nm westmere(x5675) and it still powers through but is getting lacking in the I/O department now.
Been stockpiling parts for some months awaiting this launch, gonna build a 3900x system and hoping it'll keep up for some time: )
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I still run 32nm westmere(x5675) and it still powers through but is getting lacking in the I/O department now.
Been stockpiling parts for some months awaiting this launch, gonna build a 3900x system and hoping it'll keep up for some time: )
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Rasike
On PCI gen 4, it is been in enterprise computing for while and there are cases for the workloads, typical consumer market don-t have those workloads. Evolution is a thing, it has to be in high end tier first to trickledown to consumer market.
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On PCI gen 4, it is been in enterprise computing for while and there are cases for the workloads, typical consumer market don-t have those workloads. Evolution is a thing, it has to be in high end tier first to trickledown to consumer market.
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alanharrington
What a load of bollox; AMD will introduce ray tracing when performance and dollar pricing makes sense, yet they introduce non-ray tracing cards at virtually the same price as equivalent RTX skew. Pull the other one.
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What a load of bollox; AMD will introduce ray tracing when performance and dollar pricing makes sense, yet they introduce non-ray tracing cards at virtually the same price as equivalent RTX skew. Pull the other one.
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itech
Letting the GPU guy off too easy. I wanna see some tough questions and pressing those answers he gives. Can't do much to the CPU guy as the product speaks for itself. Plenty of room to go tough on the GPU guy.
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Letting the GPU guy off too easy. I wanna see some tough questions and pressing those answers he gives. Can't do much to the CPU guy as the product speaks for itself. Plenty of room to go tough on the GPU guy.
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GamerNerd71
Scott and Robert stands for those engineers who wants to keep it honest. I will keep voting with my Money for AMD. On First Gen Ryzen now and will upgrade when the price stabilizes.
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Scott and Robert stands for those engineers who wants to keep it honest. I will keep voting with my Money for AMD. On First Gen Ryzen now and will upgrade when the price stabilizes.
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