Blind Test: AI vs Real Photo, Can YOU Tell?
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Date: 2023-12-30
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cvonp
As a photographer and stock photo contributor, it's easy to be concerned about AI scraping stock image collections as part of their learning models. On the other hand, human art and photography students similarly gain inspiration from works created by others, often mimicking styles either consciously or unconsciously as they work to develop their own artistic identities. Regarding Midjourney, it's a challenge to determine precisely what MJ is 'borrowing' from the images it has learned from. In Unmesh's example, he explains that he used a seed photo at 00:57; however, later on at 10:52, we observe the remnants of a watermark from a stock library. Yet, the image generated by Midjourney is evidently derived [almost exclusively] from the seed image Unmesh provided. This raises the question: what exactly did Midjourney borrow that it left the artifacts of a watermark?
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As a photographer and stock photo contributor, it's easy to be concerned about AI scraping stock image collections as part of their learning models. On the other hand, human art and photography students similarly gain inspiration from works created by others, often mimicking styles either consciously or unconsciously as they work to develop their own artistic identities. Regarding Midjourney, it's a challenge to determine precisely what MJ is 'borrowing' from the images it has learned from. In Unmesh's example, he explains that he used a seed photo at 00:57; however, later on at 10:52, we observe the remnants of a watermark from a stock library. Yet, the image generated by Midjourney is evidently derived [almost exclusively] from the seed image Unmesh provided. This raises the question: what exactly did Midjourney borrow that it left the artifacts of a watermark?
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MsNellyuan
The problem with new tech is , the laws and copyright stuff always take awhile to catch up . In this case , it has not yet catching up with AI . If anyone is using the stock photos to train these AI models , those artist , photographer and models deserved to be compensated . Without those stocks , these AI models simply wouldn't exist . AI aren't thinking like human (yet) , they don't really understand the anatomy of human , the lightings , the physics of the real world , contrary to popular belief.
They are only hanging onto the specific patterns trained using the stocks , which can sometimes produce accurate result but most of the time , not really because they do not understand the fundamental of it like human artist. The same reason why they always get the delicate fingers wrong because they don't know how fingers can't twist a certain direction.
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The problem with new tech is , the laws and copyright stuff always take awhile to catch up . In this case , it has not yet catching up with AI . If anyone is using the stock photos to train these AI models , those artist , photographer and models deserved to be compensated . Without those stocks , these AI models simply wouldn't exist . AI aren't thinking like human (yet) , they don't really understand the anatomy of human , the lightings , the physics of the real world , contrary to popular belief.
They are only hanging onto the specific patterns trained using the stocks , which can sometimes produce accurate result but most of the time , not really because they do not understand the fundamental of it like human artist. The same reason why they always get the delicate fingers wrong because they don't know how fingers can't twist a certain direction.
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someguy7582
Midjourney has a house style that you can spot easily once you've seen enough of its images. I can only describe it as like a heavily Photoshopped studio photo lit from the side/top to emphasize a 3D shape, deep shadows that almost lean chiaroscuro, and a subtle soft glow. The images that seem too flat in comparison are real. Raw mode reduces the effect, but the multiple rounds of RLHF and aesthetic scoring pushing it towards that style are baked into the base model.
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Midjourney has a house style that you can spot easily once you've seen enough of its images. I can only describe it as like a heavily Photoshopped studio photo lit from the side/top to emphasize a 3D shape, deep shadows that almost lean chiaroscuro, and a subtle soft glow. The images that seem too flat in comparison are real. Raw mode reduces the effect, but the multiple rounds of RLHF and aesthetic scoring pushing it towards that style are baked into the base model.
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piximperfect
8/10 correct, but I've generated 10,000+ images with MidJourney so after a while you begin to notice patterns with the model.
That said, v6 is very close to the point where it's impossible to distinguish between AI and reality, particularly if you use MJ as a base and enhance it further in Photoshop or other AI upscalers.
By v8/v9 I expect the detail to match conventional photography, even fully zoomed in.
Crazy times!
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8/10 correct, but I've generated 10,000+ images with MidJourney so after a while you begin to notice patterns with the model.
That said, v6 is very close to the point where it's impossible to distinguish between AI and reality, particularly if you use MJ as a base and enhance it further in Photoshop or other AI upscalers.
By v8/v9 I expect the detail to match conventional photography, even fully zoomed in.
Crazy times!
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piximperfect
I don't think it'll do much to photography. People are always going to want actual photos of them and not an AI generation that vaguely looks like them. For retouching, though, as AI gets better at that, retouchers may find it harder and harder to find work if AI can do the same thing in 5 minutes for half the price. Also may not go well for models. AI is easier to work with than people and AI doesn't flake at the last minute.
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I don't think it'll do much to photography. People are always going to want actual photos of them and not an AI generation that vaguely looks like them. For retouching, though, as AI gets better at that, retouchers may find it harder and harder to find work if AI can do the same thing in 5 minutes for half the price. Also may not go well for models. AI is easier to work with than people and AI doesn't flake at the last minute.
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dvongrad
I'll just say that AI does NOT exist and NEVER will exist! A machine CANNOT be taught NEW concepts. It can be shown billions of images and create different ones from patterns that it sees, but it has NO idea what something is if it hasn't been shown something similar before. It's just semantics. Imitation Intelligence? Yes. Artificial Intelligence? Definitely not!
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I'll just say that AI does NOT exist and NEVER will exist! A machine CANNOT be taught NEW concepts. It can be shown billions of images and create different ones from patterns that it sees, but it has NO idea what something is if it hasn't been shown something similar before. It's just semantics. Imitation Intelligence? Yes. Artificial Intelligence? Definitely not!
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cvonp
Another brilliant video, Unmesh Midjourney 6 is an amazing advancement, unfortunately it still has quite a lot of difficulty with human hands and feet - often misaligning/forgetting fingers, or my personal favorite: attaching hands and feet (or even heads!) facing the wrong way - is that supposed to be hello? Goodbye?
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Another brilliant video, Unmesh Midjourney 6 is an amazing advancement, unfortunately it still has quite a lot of difficulty with human hands and feet - often misaligning/forgetting fingers, or my personal favorite: attaching hands and feet (or even heads!) facing the wrong way - is that supposed to be hello? Goodbye?
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Fleischkopf
those AI cats fall right in my uncanny valley. The eyes look super weird. i could tell in seconds which ones were fake. but with the locations and products not at all
damn, that middle cat gives me the creeps please do never ever show it again
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those AI cats fall right in my uncanny valley. The eyes look super weird. i could tell in seconds which ones were fake. but with the locations and products not at all
damn, that middle cat gives me the creeps please do never ever show it again
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mistycloud7257
And what is the use of creating all these fake pictures? Unless the world you want to live in is all fake? What is the use? Advertising an AI generated burger would be a lie, as many other living things that were generated by AI.
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And what is the use of creating all these fake pictures? Unless the world you want to live in is all fake? What is the use? Advertising an AI generated burger would be a lie, as many other living things that were generated by AI.
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kasloth994
I've got 6. The only one I think was unfair was the test with the burgers, mainly because stock and commercially used photos of them were never realistic (aka not looking like actual edible food) to begin with. They always looked fake
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I've got 6. The only one I think was unfair was the test with the burgers, mainly because stock and commercially used photos of them were never realistic (aka not looking like actual edible food) to begin with. They always looked fake
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alfie_petersen
I only got half correct. Its amazing how good AI images are becoming.
All these AI models must use source material created by others to train, whether its text or images. Theres bound to be a few copyright claims looming
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I only got half correct. Its amazing how good AI images are becoming.
All these AI models must use source material created by others to train, whether its text or images. Theres bound to be a few copyright claims looming
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CarpenterBrother
Throughout the past year, it has been interesting to see who embraces the technology and uses it to supercharge their own creative process, and who makes it their entire personality to cry about it and fall into despair.
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Throughout the past year, it has been interesting to see who embraces the technology and uses it to supercharge their own creative process, and who makes it their entire personality to cry about it and fall into despair.
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SCtester
I got everything correct except for thinking the center landscape photo was AI. The trick for a lot of them is that real photos tend to have more softness and slightly blurrier transitions to bokeh. That was damn hard though.
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I got everything correct except for thinking the center landscape photo was AI. The trick for a lot of them is that real photos tend to have more softness and slightly blurrier transitions to bokeh. That was damn hard though.
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MsNellyuan
stable difussion can do all of the above plus offering more settings ( all for free too ) . The downside being , it requires a lot of times , efforts and understanding of their models to set up.
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stable difussion can do all of the above plus offering more settings ( all for free too ) . The downside being , it requires a lot of times , efforts and understanding of their models to set up.
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joeysnburg4254
I think A I really sux!!! It's totally destroying any credibility artistic photography has! photography isn't an art anymore! Photoshop was the beginning... A I is the end!!!
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I think A I really sux!!! It's totally destroying any credibility artistic photography has! photography isn't an art anymore! Photoshop was the beginning... A I is the end!!!
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SIMPLIFIEDFILMING
I was close to about 80% correct. Using my advantage as a filmmaker and how light reflects in different lenses I was able to establish real from fake. At least 80% correct
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I was close to about 80% correct. Using my advantage as a filmmaker and how light reflects in different lenses I was able to establish real from fake. At least 80% correct
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spidermonkeynr1
If I'm honest . Ai lack Imagination no fantasy. It's easy to pick out a briljant photographer by the trick they use so create a picutre/make a picture
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If I'm honest . Ai lack Imagination no fantasy. It's easy to pick out a briljant photographer by the trick they use so create a picutre/make a picture
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Lulustime
Can you respond to make my day I would really appreciate that also your Chanel always cheers me up when I watch it and it takes my mind of the stress I have
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Can you respond to make my day I would really appreciate that also your Chanel always cheers me up when I watch it and it takes my mind of the stress I have
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edwardperry4416
if your adjusting the AI that much to make it look like real then it is no longer Ai generated. and your game is a little more rigged
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if your adjusting the AI that much to make it look like real then it is no longer Ai generated. and your game is a little more rigged
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hotlineoperator
The real picture as a reference is cheating in the test. AI's big problem is the proportions, without a reference it has challenges.
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The real picture as a reference is cheating in the test. AI's big problem is the proportions, without a reference it has challenges.
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