
Should You Train To FAILURE? Redefining Strength
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Scarlet
-Training to failure- in my experience is fine for shoulders, biceps, chest, & it may be necessary for me to grow those muscles. But I already have a heavy squat & deadlift for my bodyweight, & if I train those lifts to failure, I feel overtrained & it seriously impacts my ability to be active for 1-2 days after. When I was modelling years ago I had a trainer who told me not to max those lifts but to burnout the end of leg day by running stairs. It's 1 of the best fitness tips I've ever gotten. It's made a huge difference in how lean & defined my lower body looks, & it's actually has gotten me over strength & speed plateaus, too (I'm a distance runner. I challenge anyone to do this if they doubt it's possible to gain muscle & reduce fat in an area simultaneously
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-Training to failure- in my experience is fine for shoulders, biceps, chest, & it may be necessary for me to grow those muscles. But I already have a heavy squat & deadlift for my bodyweight, & if I train those lifts to failure, I feel overtrained & it seriously impacts my ability to be active for 1-2 days after. When I was modelling years ago I had a trainer who told me not to max those lifts but to burnout the end of leg day by running stairs. It's 1 of the best fitness tips I've ever gotten. It's made a huge difference in how lean & defined my lower body looks, & it's actually has gotten me over strength & speed plateaus, too (I'm a distance runner. I challenge anyone to do this if they doubt it's possible to gain muscle & reduce fat in an area simultaneously
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Martin
The thing to remember is that -studies- in this field are often not statistically significant because they are such limited studies. 10 people over 16 weeks is not a good study but that's often what we see in terms of hypertrophy.
Unfortunately, the greatest scientists on the planet are trying to figure out what dark energy is and things like dark matter. not how to make muscles bigger.
At 62 I've been studying hypertrophy for decades and I can tell you that today, just as 20 years ago, the studies are still full of contradictions.
We have to be our own scientists. Take note of the latest studies by all means, but decide for yourself if it works for you.
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The thing to remember is that -studies- in this field are often not statistically significant because they are such limited studies. 10 people over 16 weeks is not a good study but that's often what we see in terms of hypertrophy.
Unfortunately, the greatest scientists on the planet are trying to figure out what dark energy is and things like dark matter. not how to make muscles bigger.
At 62 I've been studying hypertrophy for decades and I can tell you that today, just as 20 years ago, the studies are still full of contradictions.
We have to be our own scientists. Take note of the latest studies by all means, but decide for yourself if it works for you.
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Hexx
I found this video very helpful. All things being equal, I wait four to six weeks before I push new lifters to train a set or more to failure (10 to 15 rep range. New lifters often confuse the initial muscle burn with muscle fatigue and will often stop. I think having them train to failure (or close to it, whilst maintaining strict form helps to set their training baselines, and also develop the mental awareness necessary to safely challenge their muscles. Please feel free to correct me if you disagree with this approach. And thanks again for all that you share!
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I found this video very helpful. All things being equal, I wait four to six weeks before I push new lifters to train a set or more to failure (10 to 15 rep range. New lifters often confuse the initial muscle burn with muscle fatigue and will often stop. I think having them train to failure (or close to it, whilst maintaining strict form helps to set their training baselines, and also develop the mental awareness necessary to safely challenge their muscles. Please feel free to correct me if you disagree with this approach. And thanks again for all that you share!
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Alexandre
I have a request/suggestion: can you talk about -training within your limits over and over-? I tell you why. We have plenty of videos, articles, etc. talking about -pushing the limits-. Well, what if I am satisfied with my bench press weight? I don't want to lift more than that. Yes, I do change exercises, but bench press is a benchmark. The real challenge now is to lift that weight till I'm 99 yo. It's kind of a mental game. And as we see people getting older AND healthier, this kind of help makes sense.
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I have a request/suggestion: can you talk about -training within your limits over and over-? I tell you why. We have plenty of videos, articles, etc. talking about -pushing the limits-. Well, what if I am satisfied with my bench press weight? I don't want to lift more than that. Yes, I do change exercises, but bench press is a benchmark. The real challenge now is to lift that weight till I'm 99 yo. It's kind of a mental game. And as we see people getting older AND healthier, this kind of help makes sense.
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bbrock
The other thing I notice especially women is they dont seem to want to or have the desire to grind out the reps. This is wear a person has to strain a little or allot to get those final couple of reps. Grinding out a few reps in good form is what I call busting ass. Lazy workouts in the long run do little but maybe maintain that is about it. I guess some people just dont have that desire to take it that extra mile and grind out a couple of reps in good form. I personally see this as being lazy.
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The other thing I notice especially women is they dont seem to want to or have the desire to grind out the reps. This is wear a person has to strain a little or allot to get those final couple of reps. Grinding out a few reps in good form is what I call busting ass. Lazy workouts in the long run do little but maybe maintain that is about it. I guess some people just dont have that desire to take it that extra mile and grind out a couple of reps in good form. I personally see this as being lazy.
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Shantanu
I think a key point (esp. one taken in some studies, and which needs to be kept in mind when analyzing these studies) is the distinction between training to mechanical failure vs training to muscular failure.
The latter is best done infrequently, but the former might actually be the 'effective reps' that indeed are needed to build strength & muscle.
But, overall, a good video.
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I think a key point (esp. one taken in some studies, and which needs to be kept in mind when analyzing these studies) is the distinction between training to mechanical failure vs training to muscular failure.
The latter is best done infrequently, but the former might actually be the 'effective reps' that indeed are needed to build strength & muscle.
But, overall, a good video.
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With
Hey Cori this is an awesome video! I'm glad I don't have to train to failure every time -- I want to be able to just up and do a workout at a moment's notice so will need to be able to recover quickly.
Do you think you could do a video on the best training for different body types, ecto/meso/endomorph and stuff?
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Hey Cori this is an awesome video! I'm glad I don't have to train to failure every time -- I want to be able to just up and do a workout at a moment's notice so will need to be able to recover quickly.
Do you think you could do a video on the best training for different body types, ecto/meso/endomorph and stuff?
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Melissa
My husband and I lift 3 to 5 days a week generally 45 minutes to an hour and a half session and while we lift until we can't complete another set, the next day my husband is sore while I am rarely ever sore the next day. Often times I'm lifting the same weight my husband lifts. Do some people just not get sore?
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My husband and I lift 3 to 5 days a week generally 45 minutes to an hour and a half session and while we lift until we can't complete another set, the next day my husband is sore while I am rarely ever sore the next day. Often times I'm lifting the same weight my husband lifts. Do some people just not get sore?
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bbrock
On the other hand I am not a huge fan of going beyond failure either, often referred to as forced reps. I occasionally will do a rest pause rep where I go to failure rest maybe 10 seconds and attempt to squeeze out another rep or two, but having someone help me eek out a rep to me is a quick road to injuries.
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On the other hand I am not a huge fan of going beyond failure either, often referred to as forced reps. I occasionally will do a rest pause rep where I go to failure rest maybe 10 seconds and attempt to squeeze out another rep or two, but having someone help me eek out a rep to me is a quick road to injuries.
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AMarie
I definitely push myself, but at 60 I-m more in tune with my body. Some days I can push harder than other days and when I get that feeling in my stomach like I can throw up I back off and I definitely take a few days to rest with off days relaxing or going for a 2-3 mile walk at a comfortable pace.
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I definitely push myself, but at 60 I-m more in tune with my body. Some days I can push harder than other days and when I get that feeling in my stomach like I can throw up I back off and I definitely take a few days to rest with off days relaxing or going for a 2-3 mile walk at a comfortable pace.
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