Toyota Sienna: Fast Vibration And Shaking While Driving
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Date: 2022-02-12
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Dan
Nice video. Hub centric vs. Lug centric tire rims. Hub centric rims mean a cone can be used when mounting the rim tire assembly on the balancer. Lug centric means a Pin mounting flange must be used when mounting the tire rim assembly on the tire balancer. You can use a Pin mounting flange on both styles of tire rim assemblies, Rim Centric & Lug centric, but you must use the Pin mounting flange on lug centric tire rims when mounting on a tire balancer. Hunter has a saying, It's my job to mount the tire assembly correctly and it's their job to balance it. I would suggest the tire machine have its internal software setting set to mandate the technician perform a tire assembly center check after mounting the tire assembly on the balancer machine and prior to performing the actual balance check of the tire/rim assembly. This center check process only needs to be done once per tire/rim assembly no matter how many test spins are needed to balance the tire/rim assembly. It takes about 4 minutes per tire to perform the center check process. Please remember It's my job to mount the tire correctly on the balance machine and its Hunters job to balance the tire. Once a technician grasps tire/rim balancing then there is Road Force balancing. Thats the gold standard. Road force balancing is great. It's the best. But it takes a 30-minute test drive prior to starting the road force balance process to ensure the tires are warm and it takes about 3 hours to do on a vehicle. No sense Road Force balancing (The gold Standard of balancing) cold tires as that would mean the owner only has the best rim/tire assemblies UNTIL the tires warm up and once the tires warm up who knows what they have. A different coffee break conversation. Thank you for the video and allowing me to comment. I wish you safety and good health. Take care.
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Nice video. Hub centric vs. Lug centric tire rims. Hub centric rims mean a cone can be used when mounting the rim tire assembly on the balancer. Lug centric means a Pin mounting flange must be used when mounting the tire rim assembly on the tire balancer. You can use a Pin mounting flange on both styles of tire rim assemblies, Rim Centric & Lug centric, but you must use the Pin mounting flange on lug centric tire rims when mounting on a tire balancer. Hunter has a saying, It's my job to mount the tire assembly correctly and it's their job to balance it. I would suggest the tire machine have its internal software setting set to mandate the technician perform a tire assembly center check after mounting the tire assembly on the balancer machine and prior to performing the actual balance check of the tire/rim assembly. This center check process only needs to be done once per tire/rim assembly no matter how many test spins are needed to balance the tire/rim assembly. It takes about 4 minutes per tire to perform the center check process. Please remember It's my job to mount the tire correctly on the balance machine and its Hunters job to balance the tire. Once a technician grasps tire/rim balancing then there is Road Force balancing. Thats the gold standard. Road force balancing is great. It's the best. But it takes a 30-minute test drive prior to starting the road force balance process to ensure the tires are warm and it takes about 3 hours to do on a vehicle. No sense Road Force balancing (The gold Standard of balancing) cold tires as that would mean the owner only has the best rim/tire assemblies UNTIL the tires warm up and once the tires warm up who knows what they have. A different coffee break conversation. Thank you for the video and allowing me to comment. I wish you safety and good health. Take care.
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DaddyBeanDaddyBean
Dorman tale. '08 F150, the HVAC blend door actuator failed. (For the record, it is not easy to replace, as it is buried pretty deep in the dash) Replaced it with a Dorman from The Zone; it stripped its gears at both ends of the temperature range, even after the computer did the relearn sweep multiple times. Replaced it under warranty; second one did the same thing. Got hold of Dorman tech support and explained the problem. They said to pull the fuse, wait 30 seconds, plug the fuse back in, and the computer would do the relearn sweep, and this would solve the problem. I replied that I had already done that multiple times - with two different copies of the part - and that I just did it again because they asked, and it didn't help. Dorman Guy said That's strange, that should have worked. And had nothing else to say, and did not reply to any further emails. I returned the second Dorman to The Zone and got the OEM part from RockAuto, and it worked perfectly. Now, as a home gamer, I don't really know how to put a monetary value on my own labor, but I damn-well spent more than 20 in time and frustration replacing that dumb thing three times in an effort to save 20 buying the Dorman part over the OEM.
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Dorman tale. '08 F150, the HVAC blend door actuator failed. (For the record, it is not easy to replace, as it is buried pretty deep in the dash) Replaced it with a Dorman from The Zone; it stripped its gears at both ends of the temperature range, even after the computer did the relearn sweep multiple times. Replaced it under warranty; second one did the same thing. Got hold of Dorman tech support and explained the problem. They said to pull the fuse, wait 30 seconds, plug the fuse back in, and the computer would do the relearn sweep, and this would solve the problem. I replied that I had already done that multiple times - with two different copies of the part - and that I just did it again because they asked, and it didn't help. Dorman Guy said That's strange, that should have worked. And had nothing else to say, and did not reply to any further emails. I returned the second Dorman to The Zone and got the OEM part from RockAuto, and it worked perfectly. Now, as a home gamer, I don't really know how to put a monetary value on my own labor, but I damn-well spent more than 20 in time and frustration replacing that dumb thing three times in an effort to save 20 buying the Dorman part over the OEM.
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Brian
two things. new doesn't mean good and did you ever consider getting a road force balancer. 90% of wheels balance fine but there are so many out there where a slightly out of round tire can be spun on the rim to take out the vibration. i didn't believe it until i saw it. floored me. i work in a shop in Syracuse so I relate to all the crap us northeasterners run against with all the salt and snow. PS, i don't think the driveshaft was horribly made but the guy who greased it must have done it on a day before his vacation was up because he just want to get out of there. grease goes a long way in this business. no reason for ball bearings to get rusted in a cv style joint
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two things. new doesn't mean good and did you ever consider getting a road force balancer. 90% of wheels balance fine but there are so many out there where a slightly out of round tire can be spun on the rim to take out the vibration. i didn't believe it until i saw it. floored me. i work in a shop in Syracuse so I relate to all the crap us northeasterners run against with all the salt and snow. PS, i don't think the driveshaft was horribly made but the guy who greased it must have done it on a day before his vacation was up because he just want to get out of there. grease goes a long way in this business. no reason for ball bearings to get rusted in a cv style joint
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Steve
Cool video Eric O.
Currently, I'm not too crazy about Dorman, but in all fairness they have stepped up to the plate by providing affordable replacement parts that others don't.
Now if they can improve the quality and reliability (at least up to O. E. M. specs, the potential is to become a #1 supplier.
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Cool video Eric O.
Currently, I'm not too crazy about Dorman, but in all fairness they have stepped up to the plate by providing affordable replacement parts that others don't.
Now if they can improve the quality and reliability (at least up to O. E. M. specs, the potential is to become a #1 supplier.
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autos
Never heard anyone discuss lug vs hub piloted wheels before. The stock Rostyle wheels on my MGB are lug piloted (or lug centric.
When I went to change a flat on my Tacoma (w/ aftermarket wheels) I couldn t get the factory spare to fit. Took me 10 minutes to see the ring deal around the hub.
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Never heard anyone discuss lug vs hub piloted wheels before. The stock Rostyle wheels on my MGB are lug piloted (or lug centric.
When I went to change a flat on my Tacoma (w/ aftermarket wheels) I couldn t get the factory spare to fit. Took me 10 minutes to see the ring deal around the hub.
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Aes
Is that absolutely crucial to have the rings? I have a second set of 15s with KO2s, on a car that's much much newer. There's a gap, I'm almost positive. Is this a fix it or you're gooched kinda thing? I've seen a set of plastic rings for 75! That don't seem right.
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Is that absolutely crucial to have the rings? I have a second set of 15s with KO2s, on a car that's much much newer. There's a gap, I'm almost positive. Is this a fix it or you're gooched kinda thing? I've seen a set of plastic rings for 75! That don't seem right.
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Paul1958R
Eric,
I will bet that at the end of the day all of these 'NAPA' and 'Dorman' driveshafts are reman'd by CARDONE. Same old sugar.
So I guess the 8 cent question is: if the driveshaft failed under warranty who pays for SMAs time to R/R?
Paul
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Eric,
I will bet that at the end of the day all of these 'NAPA' and 'Dorman' driveshafts are reman'd by CARDONE. Same old sugar.
So I guess the 8 cent question is: if the driveshaft failed under warranty who pays for SMAs time to R/R?
Paul
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Gunga
Eric O, would it be worth the effort to install a zerk fitting in the CV housing to be able to pump it full of grease? It's not like a zerk would be in the way of anything and allow for greasing a wear point instead of waiting for eminent NYS death.
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Eric O, would it be worth the effort to install a zerk fitting in the CV housing to be able to pump it full of grease? It's not like a zerk would be in the way of anything and allow for greasing a wear point instead of waiting for eminent NYS death.
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Gary
Well Eric since you found the wrong lug nuts on there put on the correct lug nuts the acorn lug nuts put all those aluminum-based wheels into a big ziplock bag handle back to the customer and say these go with the aluminum wheels wherever they're at.
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Well Eric since you found the wrong lug nuts on there put on the correct lug nuts the acorn lug nuts put all those aluminum-based wheels into a big ziplock bag handle back to the customer and say these go with the aluminum wheels wherever they're at.
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