Project Rotted Subaru Subframe - Part II
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Date: 2022-12-16
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T te
For all you fathers out there with daughters: they're the apple of your eye and your wife will tolerate that. right up until they get to Eric's daughter's age. About the age your daughter (or, in my case daughters) and your wife begin combat in earnest, never, ever take your daughter(s)'s side against your wife.
You might get away with it if you're out and about, and the girl child(ren) want to go to Dairy Queen and you're all trying to get mom's buy-in. Anything more serious than that, and, well, you've got to sleep sometime, fella.
Oh, and remember that thing you and she used to do that gave you those offspring in the first place? It'll be a lot longer before that happens again, should you foolishly take your daughter(s)'s part against your wife.
Even if you decide to petition on your daughter's behalf in private - and that is the better course of action, trust me - it's still best to treat your better half as though she is feral.
Chocolate helps, assuming she's not one of those rare women that can't have chocolate. I recommend dark, rich chocolate. Milk chocolate is a poor substitute. Get the good stuff, and remember that around important holidays. Like her birthday. And the anniversary of your capture. Marriage. I meant marriage. You can get away with forgetting every single important date ever, but never, ever forget those two dates.
So yeah, unless She is in danger of offing the apple or apples of your eye, never, ever get between them. Your daughters will eventually move out. Nor can they be counted on to protect you.
Like I said: you have to sleep sometime, fella. They never, ever forget. It may take 20 years, but eventually, they will have their revenge. Meanwhile, that apple or apples of your eye, with equally bad taste in men (trust me) as their mother, are repeating that pattern they learned from her. They'll be no help at all, save letting you sleep on their couch for a short time.
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For all you fathers out there with daughters: they're the apple of your eye and your wife will tolerate that. right up until they get to Eric's daughter's age. About the age your daughter (or, in my case daughters) and your wife begin combat in earnest, never, ever take your daughter(s)'s side against your wife.
You might get away with it if you're out and about, and the girl child(ren) want to go to Dairy Queen and you're all trying to get mom's buy-in. Anything more serious than that, and, well, you've got to sleep sometime, fella.
Oh, and remember that thing you and she used to do that gave you those offspring in the first place? It'll be a lot longer before that happens again, should you foolishly take your daughter(s)'s part against your wife.
Even if you decide to petition on your daughter's behalf in private - and that is the better course of action, trust me - it's still best to treat your better half as though she is feral.
Chocolate helps, assuming she's not one of those rare women that can't have chocolate. I recommend dark, rich chocolate. Milk chocolate is a poor substitute. Get the good stuff, and remember that around important holidays. Like her birthday. And the anniversary of your capture. Marriage. I meant marriage. You can get away with forgetting every single important date ever, but never, ever forget those two dates.
So yeah, unless She is in danger of offing the apple or apples of your eye, never, ever get between them. Your daughters will eventually move out. Nor can they be counted on to protect you.
Like I said: you have to sleep sometime, fella. They never, ever forget. It may take 20 years, but eventually, they will have their revenge. Meanwhile, that apple or apples of your eye, with equally bad taste in men (trust me) as their mother, are repeating that pattern they learned from her. They'll be no help at all, save letting you sleep on their couch for a short time.
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Allister
Hi Eric, with regard to your inspection and some issues. I am a professional engineer here in Canada known as a P. Eng. If I say your whatever is not acceptable that is my decision. I have to stand by my decision and sleep at night. If you as the inspector say the condition is unacceptable and I will not pass it. I don't care if it is surface rust, you are the inspector. If I don't like your report I can go for a second opinion. However I saw those holes and you made absolutely the right call. People should watch the video more carefully. I never argue with another inspectors report. If you pointed out to me why you will not accept the condition I can do as above. I learned my lesson years ago when a young mechanic. The inspector generally knows a lot more than you, get cleaver and he will point out every crack loose bolt leaking oil seal cracked tire. Sometimes I have found if it is borderline it will get overlooked if you argue you end up in a whole load of hurt.
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Hi Eric, with regard to your inspection and some issues. I am a professional engineer here in Canada known as a P. Eng. If I say your whatever is not acceptable that is my decision. I have to stand by my decision and sleep at night. If you as the inspector say the condition is unacceptable and I will not pass it. I don't care if it is surface rust, you are the inspector. If I don't like your report I can go for a second opinion. However I saw those holes and you made absolutely the right call. People should watch the video more carefully. I never argue with another inspectors report. If you pointed out to me why you will not accept the condition I can do as above. I learned my lesson years ago when a young mechanic. The inspector generally knows a lot more than you, get cleaver and he will point out every crack loose bolt leaking oil seal cracked tire. Sometimes I have found if it is borderline it will get overlooked if you argue you end up in a whole load of hurt.
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Tim
Doing the fluid film reminds me of a guy years ago somewhere around Atlanta who you bought a new car and paid for his Undercoat and Rust proof would do your entire underneath in this stuff that looked like tar. He covered everything and removed what needed to be removed to do it and when he finished your entire car underneath was pretty much rust proof for life. This was back in the 90s and for an average car you'd pay around 2, 500 extra for it. I had one I bought used that had this stuff on it and it was clean and not a single spot of rust on the car after 10 years. I wonder if that's still being done or others do that type of rust coating. Might be worth those extra bucks for you guys up in the rust belt. Just an idea and something I remembered. Take care.
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Doing the fluid film reminds me of a guy years ago somewhere around Atlanta who you bought a new car and paid for his Undercoat and Rust proof would do your entire underneath in this stuff that looked like tar. He covered everything and removed what needed to be removed to do it and when he finished your entire car underneath was pretty much rust proof for life. This was back in the 90s and for an average car you'd pay around 2, 500 extra for it. I had one I bought used that had this stuff on it and it was clean and not a single spot of rust on the car after 10 years. I wonder if that's still being done or others do that type of rust coating. Might be worth those extra bucks for you guys up in the rust belt. Just an idea and something I remembered. Take care.
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Lex
I have a vibrating tumbler with abrasive media just to remove rust from nuts and bolts on the old cars I work on for my self I will also add liquid rust remover in it for the really rusty ones but if I can I get new ones but some are just not available at any price so I get creative and just make what I need with taps and thread dies and a heat treat oven I am a welder and a machinist I can make most of what I need but it does get expensive and takes a lot of time of course we don t have as much salt on the road but the constant mud is not a good thing and it rains a lot and every time the vehicle gets muddy and that holds moisture on the parts and hardware
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I have a vibrating tumbler with abrasive media just to remove rust from nuts and bolts on the old cars I work on for my self I will also add liquid rust remover in it for the really rusty ones but if I can I get new ones but some are just not available at any price so I get creative and just make what I need with taps and thread dies and a heat treat oven I am a welder and a machinist I can make most of what I need but it does get expensive and takes a lot of time of course we don t have as much salt on the road but the constant mud is not a good thing and it rains a lot and every time the vehicle gets muddy and that holds moisture on the parts and hardware
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dlaitch
I drove a 2000 6 cyl Malibu until traded ( Intake gaskets replaced 2X) still ran great in 2018 with no under body rust due to Rust Check use regularly.
I cannot believe anyone would replace a frame on an 8 year old car both due to cost and secondly finding anyone
with the know how and patience to do the job that you did. Unbelievable amount of parts that have to be removed to
do this job. Kudos on spraying the old surface rusted reused parts. Even with cost of all cars today just can't get my
head around doing this unless is a rare classic restoration. You are a one in a million mechanic Eric!
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I drove a 2000 6 cyl Malibu until traded ( Intake gaskets replaced 2X) still ran great in 2018 with no under body rust due to Rust Check use regularly.
I cannot believe anyone would replace a frame on an 8 year old car both due to cost and secondly finding anyone
with the know how and patience to do the job that you did. Unbelievable amount of parts that have to be removed to
do this job. Kudos on spraying the old surface rusted reused parts. Even with cost of all cars today just can't get my
head around doing this unless is a rare classic restoration. You are a one in a million mechanic Eric!
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Richard
My wife was into horses. To me, they were 1000lb puppies. I loved them, took care of them, played with them, but--I RIDE NOTHING WITHOUT BRAKES! To women, they are much worse than crack cocaine. When I sold the horse farm after my wife died, the young husband said his wife wanted a horse. I laughed so hard I almost peed my pants. They didn't get it. Didn't say a word. I allowed her to move in a horse before closing. By closing, 13days later, she had already bought and moved-in 3 horses and 2 donkeys. Now he understands.
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My wife was into horses. To me, they were 1000lb puppies. I loved them, took care of them, played with them, but--I RIDE NOTHING WITHOUT BRAKES! To women, they are much worse than crack cocaine. When I sold the horse farm after my wife died, the young husband said his wife wanted a horse. I laughed so hard I almost peed my pants. They didn't get it. Didn't say a word. I allowed her to move in a horse before closing. By closing, 13days later, she had already bought and moved-in 3 horses and 2 donkeys. Now he understands.
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Gregory
Great video of sub frame replacement! But the best part of the video, in my opinion, was yours and Mrs. O's interaction with your youngin about the new saddle! Cherish and Enjoy your time with your children. Horses are a pain and can be very ex pensive, but the life lessons learned are just the best! All the best to you and yours for the holidays Eric!
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Great video of sub frame replacement! But the best part of the video, in my opinion, was yours and Mrs. O's interaction with your youngin about the new saddle! Cherish and Enjoy your time with your children. Horses are a pain and can be very ex pensive, but the life lessons learned are just the best! All the best to you and yours for the holidays Eric!
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Don
Did a clutch, T/O bearing, half shafts and ball joints on the Mrs old 12 Forester. Had to do the heat & greet on those pencil sized ball joint bolts. Coulda been the makings of a bad day. Don t think I d have the stones to a sub frame that crusty.
Did the FluFilm goat get sent out to pasture?
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Did a clutch, T/O bearing, half shafts and ball joints on the Mrs old 12 Forester. Had to do the heat & greet on those pencil sized ball joint bolts. Coulda been the makings of a bad day. Don t think I d have the stones to a sub frame that crusty.
Did the FluFilm goat get sent out to pasture?
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Roger
During part Duex a pause during original parts removal showed the major rot Swiss cheese when Mr O was moving the frame around. I was shocked how bad it was. This was a life saver of a job for some folks in that car or around it had it failed and caused an accident. Looking forward to part III
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During part Duex a pause during original parts removal showed the major rot Swiss cheese when Mr O was moving the frame around. I was shocked how bad it was. This was a life saver of a job for some folks in that car or around it had it failed and caused an accident. Looking forward to part III
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MrAmorti
We're all here for the blue wrench, but honestly you probably spent more in gas than the bolts cost, plus your time, and you still get to put the rusty bolts back in. Even if they aren't compromised from the rust, cutting, and hammering, the hardening on them is now just a memory.
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We're all here for the blue wrench, but honestly you probably spent more in gas than the bolts cost, plus your time, and you still get to put the rusty bolts back in. Even if they aren't compromised from the rust, cutting, and hammering, the hardening on them is now just a memory.
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Jiyu
Or, thoroughly clean the lower surface of the subframe; fiberglass over the rotted sections; repaint with flat back and throw some dirt on the pain't before it dries; pass inspection; then drive for a couple more years before driving it to the junkyard where it belongs.
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Or, thoroughly clean the lower surface of the subframe; fiberglass over the rotted sections; repaint with flat back and throw some dirt on the pain't before it dries; pass inspection; then drive for a couple more years before driving it to the junkyard where it belongs.
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Larry
Believe me, KROIL works much better than WD-40 as a penetrating oil. But, it's also a lot more costly, so there is that.
The best thing about Eric's humor, as opposed to, say, Rainman's, is that Eric's is effortless. Almost unconscious. Informative AND entertaining.
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Believe me, KROIL works much better than WD-40 as a penetrating oil. But, it's also a lot more costly, so there is that.
The best thing about Eric's humor, as opposed to, say, Rainman's, is that Eric's is effortless. Almost unconscious. Informative AND entertaining.
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Jeff
I bet you get comments on using extensions when you are torquing fasteners. Many think they change to applied torque however they do not. I have heard that argument for years and years. Plain facts are using extensions does NOT change applied torque to a fastener.
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I bet you get comments on using extensions when you are torquing fasteners. Many think they change to applied torque however they do not. I have heard that argument for years and years. Plain facts are using extensions does NOT change applied torque to a fastener.
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Bob
I know if it were my Subaru Impreza you were working on, I'd want you to do it this way unless you told me it would be unsafe! My Impreza is actually a year older, it's a 2013, living in mid-state Vermont, so very similar weather!
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I know if it were my Subaru Impreza you were working on, I'd want you to do it this way unless you told me it would be unsafe! My Impreza is actually a year older, it's a 2013, living in mid-state Vermont, so very similar weather!
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