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Date: 2022-04-11
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Digi20
The Roundabout thing is indeed very easy in germany. You dont indicate when entering the roundabout (because, well, you can only go one way right. You also dont indicate when you are in. Because well, you are in, why indicate? Everyone sees you. -
You only indicate right when you want to leave, so people wanting to enter can do that in front of you. -
You are not supposed to indicate left when you are in the roundabout. I guess you could, its not forbidden, but no one does it and no one will get what you are doing. -
When its a two lane+ roundabout (we have very few of those here, only some big ones in big cities) and you want to change lane inside the roundabout, you simply indicate right or left depending on how you want to switch the lane, like on a normal road. -
If you want, you can drive the whole day around without indicating once. Because you are in the roundabout right? Just tell people when you want to exist or change the lane. -
I think this is a very easy to understand system and it works rather flawless. As is understand, that is also the EU suggestion for the whole of europe now, but there are many countries where it is handled different. For example portugal seems to have a very strict code of indicating left, using the inner lane and crossing over right when wanting to exit. Very bizarre and hectic and as a german you simply dont understand the added complexity involved for crossing multiple lanes twice. I almost caused two accidents within 300m of getting a rental car when i first visited there, because i simply drove in the outer lane and got cut by people because they thought i wanted to exit. Its quite irritating. -
In spain some people use the same system, but not to the same extent. I just looked it up online and the rules are indeed very much like the germans, i guess some older people learned it different.
BTW some german people do indicate right when entering the roundabout. That is the way it was thought some decades ago. Its not supposed to be this way today because sdrivers waiting at the first entry might think you want to exit there if the turn signal is not turned off quick enough and then you have a crash.
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The Roundabout thing is indeed very easy in germany. You dont indicate when entering the roundabout (because, well, you can only go one way right. You also dont indicate when you are in. Because well, you are in, why indicate? Everyone sees you. -
You only indicate right when you want to leave, so people wanting to enter can do that in front of you. -
You are not supposed to indicate left when you are in the roundabout. I guess you could, its not forbidden, but no one does it and no one will get what you are doing. -
When its a two lane+ roundabout (we have very few of those here, only some big ones in big cities) and you want to change lane inside the roundabout, you simply indicate right or left depending on how you want to switch the lane, like on a normal road. -
If you want, you can drive the whole day around without indicating once. Because you are in the roundabout right? Just tell people when you want to exist or change the lane. -
I think this is a very easy to understand system and it works rather flawless. As is understand, that is also the EU suggestion for the whole of europe now, but there are many countries where it is handled different. For example portugal seems to have a very strict code of indicating left, using the inner lane and crossing over right when wanting to exit. Very bizarre and hectic and as a german you simply dont understand the added complexity involved for crossing multiple lanes twice. I almost caused two accidents within 300m of getting a rental car when i first visited there, because i simply drove in the outer lane and got cut by people because they thought i wanted to exit. Its quite irritating. -
In spain some people use the same system, but not to the same extent. I just looked it up online and the rules are indeed very much like the germans, i guess some older people learned it different.
BTW some german people do indicate right when entering the roundabout. That is the way it was thought some decades ago. Its not supposed to be this way today because sdrivers waiting at the first entry might think you want to exit there if the turn signal is not turned off quick enough and then you have a crash.
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Rick
Really nice truck but older guys like me won-t like it. Old school truck drivers like the big horsepower diesels with lots of gears to jam because that-s the masculine way. I remember my first time driving a Volvo with an automatic transmission and I loved it but others hated it. Electric is a whole different ball game again. The battery weight definitely does matter because it does affect the gross weight allowed by diminishing how much weight you can carry. The amount of distance the current batteries would allow would be okay for local daily deliveries but not for OTR operating in my view.
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Really nice truck but older guys like me won-t like it. Old school truck drivers like the big horsepower diesels with lots of gears to jam because that-s the masculine way. I remember my first time driving a Volvo with an automatic transmission and I loved it but others hated it. Electric is a whole different ball game again. The battery weight definitely does matter because it does affect the gross weight allowed by diminishing how much weight you can carry. The amount of distance the current batteries would allow would be okay for local daily deliveries but not for OTR operating in my view.
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Mr
Not very environmentally friendly, that battery pack and electric motors costs 100 cubic tons of Co2 to produce whereas a diesel truck costs 37 cubic tons. That-s an awful of mikes you need to do to get back to nett zero. When are people going to start and talk about the realities of this electrification madness, the damage it-s doing to places like the lithium triangle on South America and the poisoning of the water in Africa through cobalt mining, kids getting $1 a day to literally dig the stuff out of the ground with their hands. Hydrogen is where it-s at, get with the program.
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Not very environmentally friendly, that battery pack and electric motors costs 100 cubic tons of Co2 to produce whereas a diesel truck costs 37 cubic tons. That-s an awful of mikes you need to do to get back to nett zero. When are people going to start and talk about the realities of this electrification madness, the damage it-s doing to places like the lithium triangle on South America and the poisoning of the water in Africa through cobalt mining, kids getting $1 a day to literally dig the stuff out of the ground with their hands. Hydrogen is where it-s at, get with the program.
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narancs5
Of course the characteristics make most of the difference, but FYI a regular turbodiesel truck engine with 280HP produces 650-750Nm. Which is a ratio of 1: 2, 3-2, 7
While here we have 1: 1, 8
Regarding the turnsignals I think you misunderstood eachother. Even if it is not strictly according to the rules, Mat's approach gives more information to the others in traffic helping the flow.
The rear axle steering decreases your turning circle slightly, but also reduces the wear the rearmost axle's tyres experience.
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Of course the characteristics make most of the difference, but FYI a regular turbodiesel truck engine with 280HP produces 650-750Nm. Which is a ratio of 1: 2, 3-2, 7
While here we have 1: 1, 8
Regarding the turnsignals I think you misunderstood eachother. Even if it is not strictly according to the rules, Mat's approach gives more information to the others in traffic helping the flow.
The rear axle steering decreases your turning circle slightly, but also reduces the wear the rearmost axle's tyres experience.
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Flo_Securis
I really wanted to drive an electric truck. So much that I listened to a naggy driving instructor just like Marcel for hours and hours who also charged me almost 5grant for the license by the way. And now Iam probably buying one cause they aren't available for rent. Iam a privat person with almost nothing to transport. People who prefer diesel trucks are full of s---t. I had soar hands after 1 hours only and was totally wrecked after a 3 hours session.
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I really wanted to drive an electric truck. So much that I listened to a naggy driving instructor just like Marcel for hours and hours who also charged me almost 5grant for the license by the way. And now Iam probably buying one cause they aren't available for rent. Iam a privat person with almost nothing to transport. People who prefer diesel trucks are full of s---t. I had soar hands after 1 hours only and was totally wrecked after a 3 hours session.
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123
Marcel is right, and there is a simple logic behind it, when you go in a roundabout, once your in you will only go in one direction, so it makes sense to only to indicate when you are about to leave the roundabout, its simple and clear (the only time when you blink befor entering the roundbaout is if you take the immediate next exit of it, and you should never indicate the direction of your turning, as it might confuse people who actually no the traffic laws
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Marcel is right, and there is a simple logic behind it, when you go in a roundabout, once your in you will only go in one direction, so it makes sense to only to indicate when you are about to leave the roundabout, its simple and clear (the only time when you blink befor entering the roundbaout is if you take the immediate next exit of it, and you should never indicate the direction of your turning, as it might confuse people who actually no the traffic laws
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Daan
Actually in the Netherlands, you-re being told that when entering a roundabout you indicate where you will go. So if you-re going to take the first exit, you indicate right. If you take the third one, you indicate left. This is not mandatory. However once you-re on the roundabout and you exit. You must indicate. What Mat did by before entering the roundabout, is exactly what I would-ve done. To let others know what your intentions are.
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Actually in the Netherlands, you-re being told that when entering a roundabout you indicate where you will go. So if you-re going to take the first exit, you indicate right. If you take the third one, you indicate left. This is not mandatory. However once you-re on the roundabout and you exit. You must indicate. What Mat did by before entering the roundabout, is exactly what I would-ve done. To let others know what your intentions are.
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Alexander
In the Netherlands you indicate when you enter. Also, to show people wanting to enter that you are staying on. Since I moved to Switzerland, I am very frustrated having to wait if people really leave the roundabout because they don't always indicate when they leave. So, Mat, well done for being stubborn about indicating before and on the roundabout!
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In the Netherlands you indicate when you enter. Also, to show people wanting to enter that you are staying on. Since I moved to Switzerland, I am very frustrated having to wait if people really leave the roundabout because they don't always indicate when they leave. So, Mat, well done for being stubborn about indicating before and on the roundabout!
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Matija
all ev's would benefit from a 2 speed box, direct drive is fine for now but would it not increase hwy range at decent speeds (150kph and above) and max top speed too. Its so funny seeing tesalas doing 120kph max in right(slow) lane to get optimal range, ppl passing them in 1. 0 vw up-s
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all ev's would benefit from a 2 speed box, direct drive is fine for now but would it not increase hwy range at decent speeds (150kph and above) and max top speed too. Its so funny seeing tesalas doing 120kph max in right(slow) lane to get optimal range, ppl passing them in 1. 0 vw up-s
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14725800369
Why's nobody going up and down any significant slopes when testing electric trucks? I mean that's were they'd excell and what's interesting in my eyes. High load on the battery for a long time at first and then a long period of strong Regen braking. Brenner would be perfect.
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Why's nobody going up and down any significant slopes when testing electric trucks? I mean that's were they'd excell and what's interesting in my eyes. High load on the battery for a long time at first and then a long period of strong Regen braking. Brenner would be perfect.
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