The New 2022 Nissan Frontier Is a New Truck That Feels Old
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Date: 2022-01-12
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FD
Just to show your needs, uses, payments, and repair costs can make a difference, The Lovely Bride and I traded a (purchased new) 2013 Nissan Frontier 4X4 with that year's V-6 equipped, and pretty much loaded, model (with just over 3. 000 miles on the clock) for a new 2014 RAM 1500 Hemi 4X4. And we've never looked back. On the other hand, one of my best friends recently traded a 2019 RAM 1500 4X4 with the Eco-Diesel for a 2018 Nissan Frontier 4X4 with all the bells and whistles available for that year model and is much, much happier having been quoted some serious prices for out of warranty repairs to the trash eco-diesel. My friends fuel costs have dropped massively, and he is tickled to death that his Frontier will go places his former RAM 1500 did not have a chance of going short of an air lift. Since I own a functional 2005 Chevy Colorado Z71, as a beater, I can go where he goes for the most part. IF I had to replace my Colorado today it would be my mission in life to find a relatively late model, maybe even a 2013, Frontier as that replacement.
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Just to show your needs, uses, payments, and repair costs can make a difference, The Lovely Bride and I traded a (purchased new) 2013 Nissan Frontier 4X4 with that year's V-6 equipped, and pretty much loaded, model (with just over 3. 000 miles on the clock) for a new 2014 RAM 1500 Hemi 4X4. And we've never looked back. On the other hand, one of my best friends recently traded a 2019 RAM 1500 4X4 with the Eco-Diesel for a 2018 Nissan Frontier 4X4 with all the bells and whistles available for that year model and is much, much happier having been quoted some serious prices for out of warranty repairs to the trash eco-diesel. My friends fuel costs have dropped massively, and he is tickled to death that his Frontier will go places his former RAM 1500 did not have a chance of going short of an air lift. Since I own a functional 2005 Chevy Colorado Z71, as a beater, I can go where he goes for the most part. IF I had to replace my Colorado today it would be my mission in life to find a relatively late model, maybe even a 2013, Frontier as that replacement.
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gabriel
I have had this truck for about two months now and really like it. A couple things though.
1. Doug mentioned the camera being bad but it's laughably bad. Embarrassingly bad. It has to be the worst in the auto industry.
2. I didn't think not having a telescoping steering wheel would be that big of a deal, but after driving it for awhile I really wish it did.
3. I wish it had ventilated seats. I'm not knocking it for not having them since it's a midsize truck. I just personally really like ventilated seats.
4. Turning radius kinda sucks.
5. The back seat really is uncomfortable. Good thing I don't have to sit back there
6. The automatic cruise control isn't stop and go, which is very annoying. It'll come to a complete stop and then just turn off so you better have your foot on the brake when it does.
Other than those things it's great. I took it on a 6+ hour drive and it was very comfortable.
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I have had this truck for about two months now and really like it. A couple things though.
1. Doug mentioned the camera being bad but it's laughably bad. Embarrassingly bad. It has to be the worst in the auto industry.
2. I didn't think not having a telescoping steering wheel would be that big of a deal, but after driving it for awhile I really wish it did.
3. I wish it had ventilated seats. I'm not knocking it for not having them since it's a midsize truck. I just personally really like ventilated seats.
4. Turning radius kinda sucks.
5. The back seat really is uncomfortable. Good thing I don't have to sit back there
6. The automatic cruise control isn't stop and go, which is very annoying. It'll come to a complete stop and then just turn off so you better have your foot on the brake when it does.
Other than those things it's great. I took it on a 6+ hour drive and it was very comfortable.
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DVD
I think the truck's reused previous-gen components and previous-gen engine indicates to me that despite blaming Carlos Ghosn for their failures and ousting him, the company's intrinsic problems have not been solved. Nissan retains its image of selling affordable cars with big power but will break down and require major service within 10k miles. I was hopeful for the new Z but now that I see this new frontier, I'm skeptical.
To clarify, I'm not pointing out the old school feel of the truck. If anything, I'm a fan of it, just like how I like the Land Cruiser or Tacoma for their old school feel. I'm saying the engine isn't new, and neither is the steering column, all which point to a cheaping out rather than a preservation of nostalgia.
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I think the truck's reused previous-gen components and previous-gen engine indicates to me that despite blaming Carlos Ghosn for their failures and ousting him, the company's intrinsic problems have not been solved. Nissan retains its image of selling affordable cars with big power but will break down and require major service within 10k miles. I was hopeful for the new Z but now that I see this new frontier, I'm skeptical.
To clarify, I'm not pointing out the old school feel of the truck. If anything, I'm a fan of it, just like how I like the Land Cruiser or Tacoma for their old school feel. I'm saying the engine isn't new, and neither is the steering column, all which point to a cheaping out rather than a preservation of nostalgia.
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Edysin
Back some 10 years ago I went to a Nissan dealership just to make my finial decision for my next pick up truck (mid sized right size) and sat in the frontier. Looked around and got the driver's seat all positioned for me then started to grab around and under the steering column looking for the steering wheel tilt/adjustment lever. It was then that the salesperson reached in and flipped the tilt lever and said, here it is! I then tried to move it and it just wasn't gonna happen! That's when he mentioned the lack of steering rack movement. I just got out of the truck and left. I had made up my mind right then and there. Seems this to be the case. still?
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Back some 10 years ago I went to a Nissan dealership just to make my finial decision for my next pick up truck (mid sized right size) and sat in the frontier. Looked around and got the driver's seat all positioned for me then started to grab around and under the steering column looking for the steering wheel tilt/adjustment lever. It was then that the salesperson reached in and flipped the tilt lever and said, here it is! I then tried to move it and it just wasn't gonna happen! That's when he mentioned the lack of steering rack movement. I just got out of the truck and left. I had made up my mind right then and there. Seems this to be the case. still?
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Anthony
If I didn't have my 2019 Frontier I would go with this. At the end of the day new trucks in the class the Frontier is in as well as full size trucks have become pavement princesses. Granted there are those who buy those pavement princesses and either actually use it as a truck or kit it out for offroading or overland expditions. At the end of the day in my opinion a truck is just that. A truck. Trucks are meant to be used and are designed to be workhorses to get the job done whatever the job may be. I like the body on frame. If the Frontier was not available I would gladly take the 2022 Tacoma as the other option.
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If I didn't have my 2019 Frontier I would go with this. At the end of the day new trucks in the class the Frontier is in as well as full size trucks have become pavement princesses. Granted there are those who buy those pavement princesses and either actually use it as a truck or kit it out for offroading or overland expditions. At the end of the day in my opinion a truck is just that. A truck. Trucks are meant to be used and are designed to be workhorses to get the job done whatever the job may be. I like the body on frame. If the Frontier was not available I would gladly take the 2022 Tacoma as the other option.
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blp95
The weaker feeling engine is because horsepower means nothing. The torque remained the same as the old 4. 0L, but the peak torque is higher in the rpm band at redline vs the old engine being at 4000. The 50 extra HP don t really mean anything. The 9 speed helps it feel a bit better but overall the 4. 0L with less Hp and the same peak torque at a lower rpm overall feels more powerful and day to day, is better to drive with.
And of course it will never compete with a turbo like the Ranger because the turbos just have so much torque when the boost kicks in.
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The weaker feeling engine is because horsepower means nothing. The torque remained the same as the old 4. 0L, but the peak torque is higher in the rpm band at redline vs the old engine being at 4000. The 50 extra HP don t really mean anything. The 9 speed helps it feel a bit better but overall the 4. 0L with less Hp and the same peak torque at a lower rpm overall feels more powerful and day to day, is better to drive with.
And of course it will never compete with a turbo like the Ranger because the turbos just have so much torque when the boost kicks in.
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Michel
Newer doesn't mean better. Sometimes in something as a pickup truck, people don't want or need to have the latest and greatest and much prefer something simpler. It's a truck that feels and drives like a truck, rather then the new ones trying to be more like a car. You don't want or need refinement in something that's designed as a workhorse. I haven't sat in a 2022 Frontier, but I find I don't fit at all in a gen3 Tacoma, nor do people fit well in the back either. We fit 4 guys better in my old 2003 Xterra then a 2015+ Taco. Gen2 was a nice Taco tho.
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Newer doesn't mean better. Sometimes in something as a pickup truck, people don't want or need to have the latest and greatest and much prefer something simpler. It's a truck that feels and drives like a truck, rather then the new ones trying to be more like a car. You don't want or need refinement in something that's designed as a workhorse. I haven't sat in a 2022 Frontier, but I find I don't fit at all in a gen3 Tacoma, nor do people fit well in the back either. We fit 4 guys better in my old 2003 Xterra then a 2015+ Taco. Gen2 was a nice Taco tho.
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Christopher
I was looking for a new mid size truck and set a budget of 40k. I went and test drove a frontier, ranger, Tacoma and Colorado all around the same price point and the frontier was by far the best option at that price. It rides and drives better than all the others and has way more features for the price. Also the interior quality is way better.
Comparing the ride quality to two crossovers with beds and two trucks that are over 100k seems pointless. Of course the 40k truck was more harsh to drive.
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I was looking for a new mid size truck and set a budget of 40k. I went and test drove a frontier, ranger, Tacoma and Colorado all around the same price point and the frontier was by far the best option at that price. It rides and drives better than all the others and has way more features for the price. Also the interior quality is way better.
Comparing the ride quality to two crossovers with beds and two trucks that are over 100k seems pointless. Of course the 40k truck was more harsh to drive.
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Jonathon
anyone that went into this Frontier not expecting vestigial parts of the past model is foolish. Nissan themselves even say that the platform and frame are essentially the same as the previous model. just looking at the vehicle you can see that all of the hard points are the same as the previous model. this was a cosmetic freshening at best.
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anyone that went into this Frontier not expecting vestigial parts of the past model is foolish. Nissan themselves even say that the platform and frame are essentially the same as the previous model. just looking at the vehicle you can see that all of the hard points are the same as the previous model. this was a cosmetic freshening at best.
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Lord
Looking at Nissan's line-up as a whole, perhaps the old-school feel is deliberate at this point, go on any car or truck forum and the common complaint is that there's too much tech, so quality, driving feel, etc. feels compromised or what have you. So maybe Nissan is trying to court those potential buyers with these offerings.
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Looking at Nissan's line-up as a whole, perhaps the old-school feel is deliberate at this point, go on any car or truck forum and the common complaint is that there's too much tech, so quality, driving feel, etc. feels compromised or what have you. So maybe Nissan is trying to court those potential buyers with these offerings.
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