Heres Why Broke People Buy Used BMWs and Rich People Buy Toyotas
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Date: 2020-01-18
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Sloth 110117
People need to know a little more than just what brand of car they are buying. I know a guy who is looking to replace his 20 year old BMW - not that it's broken (far from it, but has some rust, and with over 300 thousand miles on the engine, it's time for him to get a newer car. So he's now trying to find a 2008-2012 BMW, of course with the non turbo-charged inline six engine (N52K, and a manual transmission. Guess what - he's having a hard time finding any - these cars are keepers, and BMW didn't sell too many of them to begin with. My own BMW is now 15 years old with 185 thousand miles. This particular trim is becoming rare, so random people occasionally approach me, asking if I'd consider selling car. Recently, while I had it parked on a street, someone left a handwritten note on the door with the same inquiry. So, not everyone buying a BMW is ignorant.
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People need to know a little more than just what brand of car they are buying. I know a guy who is looking to replace his 20 year old BMW - not that it's broken (far from it, but has some rust, and with over 300 thousand miles on the engine, it's time for him to get a newer car. So he's now trying to find a 2008-2012 BMW, of course with the non turbo-charged inline six engine (N52K, and a manual transmission. Guess what - he's having a hard time finding any - these cars are keepers, and BMW didn't sell too many of them to begin with. My own BMW is now 15 years old with 185 thousand miles. This particular trim is becoming rare, so random people occasionally approach me, asking if I'd consider selling car. Recently, while I had it parked on a street, someone left a handwritten note on the door with the same inquiry. So, not everyone buying a BMW is ignorant.
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Steven
Honestly this is a bit deceiving. I grew up working and owning nothing but American or Japanese cars. Yes, the first BMW I bought was electrically a bit of a turd. But mechanically was awesome. Now on my 2nd BMW and even at 20 years old it's a wonderful vehicle. Drives amazing, great fuel economy for a V8, extremely comfortable, and has all the luxury features you really need for a daily. But the point I think Scotty is missing in this video is that if you don't know how to fix it yourself, you really better love the car and have deep pockets. Because if you can do the work yourself it's actually been better on maintenance costs then anything else I've ever owned due to how little actually breaks. The biggest cost is easily the labor rates.
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Honestly this is a bit deceiving. I grew up working and owning nothing but American or Japanese cars. Yes, the first BMW I bought was electrically a bit of a turd. But mechanically was awesome. Now on my 2nd BMW and even at 20 years old it's a wonderful vehicle. Drives amazing, great fuel economy for a V8, extremely comfortable, and has all the luxury features you really need for a daily. But the point I think Scotty is missing in this video is that if you don't know how to fix it yourself, you really better love the car and have deep pockets. Because if you can do the work yourself it's actually been better on maintenance costs then anything else I've ever owned due to how little actually breaks. The biggest cost is easily the labor rates.
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Mark Housley
I only own a 1994 BMW 325i and 1987 BMW M6 both of which didn't break me and are actually fun to drive. If I wanted to drive a squishy riding car with a cheap plastic interior, lame power and a rubber transmission I would have bought something else. All the newer cars are super complex and all will eventually have electrical problems so just a question of when. Maybe the european marques have overshot on ancillary features with questionable benefits so when those systems fail would bring an unwarranted level of dissatisfaction. Just can't get motivated to buy a lot of unwanted features forced on me by any OEM. I hope the european makers wake up.
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I only own a 1994 BMW 325i and 1987 BMW M6 both of which didn't break me and are actually fun to drive. If I wanted to drive a squishy riding car with a cheap plastic interior, lame power and a rubber transmission I would have bought something else. All the newer cars are super complex and all will eventually have electrical problems so just a question of when. Maybe the european marques have overshot on ancillary features with questionable benefits so when those systems fail would bring an unwarranted level of dissatisfaction. Just can't get motivated to buy a lot of unwanted features forced on me by any OEM. I hope the european makers wake up.
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swissmrkc
I had this exact car from 2014 to 2019. Same color and year except it was the all-wheel drive version. I have to say Scotty was very right. I drove it between the 60, 000 mile Mark to the hundred twenty five thousand. Sold it to a friend who really wanted it and I was a huge mistake. Even selling it for a deal. And it was looked at top to bottom maybe 5 months before I sold it. no issues and then the other person had it and there was already 3, 000 worth of crap to do within the first 6 weeks. I will say it is an awesome car to drive and a head-turner but really the maintenance is not worth it. Hindsight is 20/20 and now drive an Acura.
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I had this exact car from 2014 to 2019. Same color and year except it was the all-wheel drive version. I have to say Scotty was very right. I drove it between the 60, 000 mile Mark to the hundred twenty five thousand. Sold it to a friend who really wanted it and I was a huge mistake. Even selling it for a deal. And it was looked at top to bottom maybe 5 months before I sold it. no issues and then the other person had it and there was already 3, 000 worth of crap to do within the first 6 weeks. I will say it is an awesome car to drive and a head-turner but really the maintenance is not worth it. Hindsight is 20/20 and now drive an Acura.
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Trust in flames
Here in the UK BMW are so common everyone has had at least one. Iv had two, both used cars, my first one a 320i touring was a good car done all the work myself traded it in before anything went wrong. My 2nd BMW a 650i, quick silly quick and cost a bomb to service. Luckily I never had the valley pipe leak, but when I sold it had a feeling the valve stem seals where on there way out. Think I dodged that one. I think I will stick to Toyota, Lexus or Honda in the future. Most people I know who have had a BMW, all day they wouldnt buy another unless it was leased. So I am with you there scotty.
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Here in the UK BMW are so common everyone has had at least one. Iv had two, both used cars, my first one a 320i touring was a good car done all the work myself traded it in before anything went wrong. My 2nd BMW a 650i, quick silly quick and cost a bomb to service. Luckily I never had the valley pipe leak, but when I sold it had a feeling the valve stem seals where on there way out. Think I dodged that one. I think I will stick to Toyota, Lexus or Honda in the future. Most people I know who have had a BMW, all day they wouldnt buy another unless it was leased. So I am with you there scotty.
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OllamhDrab
Ugh, yeah, I just had one of my charity clients roll up in like an E38 sedan recently, ie, a 740 sedan with the V8, he was told whenn he bought it for 800 bucks. again, he was told just needed an oil pan gasket (which you have to pull the engine to do alone, _ and some coil packs. It becomes quickly apparent that the blown head gasket is the more pressing problem. I'm also like You're screwed, I'll do my best to delay the inevitable but I can't do this job here and you need something else unless your fortunes changesignificantly.
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Ugh, yeah, I just had one of my charity clients roll up in like an E38 sedan recently, ie, a 740 sedan with the V8, he was told whenn he bought it for 800 bucks. again, he was told just needed an oil pan gasket (which you have to pull the engine to do alone, _ and some coil packs. It becomes quickly apparent that the blown head gasket is the more pressing problem. I'm also like You're screwed, I'll do my best to delay the inevitable but I can't do this job here and you need something else unless your fortunes changesignificantly.
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Leslie DSouza
Letting folks buy other makes of cars, keeps Toyota price competitive? In recent times, at some cost to quality? If there's only One/ few makers, that would tend to monopoly? (Oligopoly. Then, Prices rocket & quality - who cares? So: Buy a Toyota, but tell others to buy other brands? Or: Use pushbike/ public transport & Buy Toyota Shares? Then you might even afford taxi & who needs a car? Or even drive? :) Not saying Scotty has Toyota shares: ) Listen to Scotty / Read between the lines? :)
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Letting folks buy other makes of cars, keeps Toyota price competitive? In recent times, at some cost to quality? If there's only One/ few makers, that would tend to monopoly? (Oligopoly. Then, Prices rocket & quality - who cares? So: Buy a Toyota, but tell others to buy other brands? Or: Use pushbike/ public transport & Buy Toyota Shares? Then you might even afford taxi & who needs a car? Or even drive? :) Not saying Scotty has Toyota shares: ) Listen to Scotty / Read between the lines? :)
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mightfight
I would NEVER recommend a BMW unless you understand the tech in them Especially this 08 335i I own a 08 335xi with 89k. I have it modded and have spent so many of my hours and on parts for maintenance. Get a used transmission btw not new lol. It's a fun car and being awd and over 500 hp modded its not for a average non diy guy heck I fixed my DME (also called ECU or computer) for 10 replacing failed mosfets inside it vs a dealer new DME for well over 3000++
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I would NEVER recommend a BMW unless you understand the tech in them Especially this 08 335i I own a 08 335xi with 89k. I have it modded and have spent so many of my hours and on parts for maintenance. Get a used transmission btw not new lol. It's a fun car and being awd and over 500 hp modded its not for a average non diy guy heck I fixed my DME (also called ECU or computer) for 10 replacing failed mosfets inside it vs a dealer new DME for well over 3000++
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Alin Claudiu
I've seen that this is a general trend in Scotty's videos, but trust me, in Europe at least, older BMWs are very reliable. Our family has a '03 E46 320d and a Rover 45 (with a 2. 0 liter BMW diesel engine, but a slightly de-tuned one), and they both run like a clock after several years. Their only problems were the electrical power windows (Rover) and the oil level sensor and airbag sensor (BMW. Best cars we've ever had, of course being serviced properly.
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I've seen that this is a general trend in Scotty's videos, but trust me, in Europe at least, older BMWs are very reliable. Our family has a '03 E46 320d and a Rover 45 (with a 2. 0 liter BMW diesel engine, but a slightly de-tuned one), and they both run like a clock after several years. Their only problems were the electrical power windows (Rover) and the oil level sensor and airbag sensor (BMW. Best cars we've ever had, of course being serviced properly.
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