Debby Ryan Fat Shaming Controversy, MGM Suing Victims Explained, & Nicaragua Chaos
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Date: 2019-11-01
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Dani George
I actually went through a lot of pressuring and bugging about my weight when I was at my skinniest- from my parents. They wrapped it in concern but I can still remember being 145 lb and having my dad forcefully put me on a treadmill and making me walk for 30 minutes even as I was crying. From then on they seemed to always treat me as being on the edge of obesity no matter what weight I was at. And I was reminded frequently that I was supposed to be 125 because thats how women on my mom's side of the family tended to look. And as a result? I only gained more weight and I was so confused about my parents' reality vs actual reality, I turned to online friends for advice and I remember taking a pic of myself and them being like um that isn't fat at all. My dad would 'discretely' point out overweight people in Walmart and ask me if I wanted to look like that and I was appalled at his lack of manners. On one occasion my dead suggested I looked pregnant and I almost cussed him out and he nor my mom understood why I was so upset because they were worried about me. I moved out eventually and having learned that half of what my parents said was garbage I discounted a lot of it and, due to thyroid dysfunction and depression I wound up actually being significantly overweight. Now I look back at my old pictures and feel angry because I'm like I wasn't even fat. I love my parents but. it hurt that they had me convinced I was fat when there was nothing wrong with my body other than not fitting a mold that they expected of me.
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I actually went through a lot of pressuring and bugging about my weight when I was at my skinniest- from my parents. They wrapped it in concern but I can still remember being 145 lb and having my dad forcefully put me on a treadmill and making me walk for 30 minutes even as I was crying. From then on they seemed to always treat me as being on the edge of obesity no matter what weight I was at. And I was reminded frequently that I was supposed to be 125 because thats how women on my mom's side of the family tended to look. And as a result? I only gained more weight and I was so confused about my parents' reality vs actual reality, I turned to online friends for advice and I remember taking a pic of myself and them being like um that isn't fat at all. My dad would 'discretely' point out overweight people in Walmart and ask me if I wanted to look like that and I was appalled at his lack of manners. On one occasion my dead suggested I looked pregnant and I almost cussed him out and he nor my mom understood why I was so upset because they were worried about me. I moved out eventually and having learned that half of what my parents said was garbage I discounted a lot of it and, due to thyroid dysfunction and depression I wound up actually being significantly overweight. Now I look back at my old pictures and feel angry because I'm like I wasn't even fat. I love my parents but. it hurt that they had me convinced I was fat when there was nothing wrong with my body other than not fitting a mold that they expected of me.
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Silence Peasant
Its not society standards of beauty it is realitys standard of health you are objectively more likely to be sick if you were overweight then if you are not and no matter how much you try and Shame people for fat shaming its never going to work because in reality the number of chubby chasers out there are astronomically low compared to the rest of society so yeah if youre overweight youre likely not going to be getting a boyfriend anytime soon unless hes every bit as fat and desperate as you are its not about whether or not you deserve it or not its about the fact that most people just dont find fat people attractive and thats a fact of our reality just like gay people cant choose to be straight straight people cant choose to be turned on by 300 pound lard ass stop getting angry at reality in truth you know youre not as pretty as you could otherwise be you know youre not as healthy as you could otherwise be if you are fat you know were not wrong about these things unless youre delusional and that upsets you because you dont want to go through the hard work it Takes to lose all that weight and you cant deal with the reality of your situation so you try and change the society around you rather than yourself and in reality thats never going to happen because people not being turned on by fat chicks on average is going to remain every bit a fact of reality as gay people not turning straight.
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Its not society standards of beauty it is realitys standard of health you are objectively more likely to be sick if you were overweight then if you are not and no matter how much you try and Shame people for fat shaming its never going to work because in reality the number of chubby chasers out there are astronomically low compared to the rest of society so yeah if youre overweight youre likely not going to be getting a boyfriend anytime soon unless hes every bit as fat and desperate as you are its not about whether or not you deserve it or not its about the fact that most people just dont find fat people attractive and thats a fact of our reality just like gay people cant choose to be straight straight people cant choose to be turned on by 300 pound lard ass stop getting angry at reality in truth you know youre not as pretty as you could otherwise be you know youre not as healthy as you could otherwise be if you are fat you know were not wrong about these things unless youre delusional and that upsets you because you dont want to go through the hard work it Takes to lose all that weight and you cant deal with the reality of your situation so you try and change the society around you rather than yourself and in reality thats never going to happen because people not being turned on by fat chicks on average is going to remain every bit a fact of reality as gay people not turning straight.
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Kasia Wajda
RE: the Insatiable Backlash. I absolutely 100% think that people are over-reacting and that this is a prime example of 'outrage culture'. This just makes me roll my eyes. This is a piece of entertainment. in a country where freedom of expression and freedom of speech is valued so highly, there's no reason why there should be outrage about this. At the end of the day, this is a piece of fiction and it is entertainment. Everybody who created this show and are a part of it are doing a job in order to make a living. Nobody has anything personal against you and nobody is out to get you People are too emotional and use their feelings as facts and it's getting annoying. This is coming from somebody who struggles with weight her whole life I was bullied for being fat in elementary school. I went up and down for a long time. Just two months ago I lost quite a bit of weight and also noticed A LOT more positive attention and I honestly loved it. I think that these days, in order for entertainment to be good and to garner attention, hot-button topics like this have to be a central part. It has to be personal for people because it makes people care, and that's the whole point. At the very least, it's getting us to talk about fat-shaming (which is a real issue. this show is just not a good example.
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RE: the Insatiable Backlash. I absolutely 100% think that people are over-reacting and that this is a prime example of 'outrage culture'. This just makes me roll my eyes. This is a piece of entertainment. in a country where freedom of expression and freedom of speech is valued so highly, there's no reason why there should be outrage about this. At the end of the day, this is a piece of fiction and it is entertainment. Everybody who created this show and are a part of it are doing a job in order to make a living. Nobody has anything personal against you and nobody is out to get you People are too emotional and use their feelings as facts and it's getting annoying. This is coming from somebody who struggles with weight her whole life I was bullied for being fat in elementary school. I went up and down for a long time. Just two months ago I lost quite a bit of weight and also noticed A LOT more positive attention and I honestly loved it. I think that these days, in order for entertainment to be good and to garner attention, hot-button topics like this have to be a central part. It has to be personal for people because it makes people care, and that's the whole point. At the very least, it's getting us to talk about fat-shaming (which is a real issue. this show is just not a good example.
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Lois Zuger
Insatiable looks a lot like The Heathers with a twist to me. I totally agree that people should wait & see it before judging, which is why I'm definitely going to watch it. If it ends up being like the cast says, it might actually cause it's younger viewers to treat heavier people better, which would be great. I feel like dark comedies in general see the business end of outrage culture a lot. Personally, halfway through high school, I developed some health problems that made it so I couldn't exercise & led to me gaining 50 pounds. It really affected me to not be able to be an athlete anymore, I even changed who I hung out with. I think it's because of those experiences that I'm one of those people who believes in beautiful at any size but I also believe the truest way to love yourself is to love yourself as you are & simultaneously work toward a healthier weight. I'm happy to say that I'm back to a healthy weight now. I think my personal experiences are what make me so interested in & open-minded in regards to that show.
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Insatiable looks a lot like The Heathers with a twist to me. I totally agree that people should wait & see it before judging, which is why I'm definitely going to watch it. If it ends up being like the cast says, it might actually cause it's younger viewers to treat heavier people better, which would be great. I feel like dark comedies in general see the business end of outrage culture a lot. Personally, halfway through high school, I developed some health problems that made it so I couldn't exercise & led to me gaining 50 pounds. It really affected me to not be able to be an athlete anymore, I even changed who I hung out with. I think it's because of those experiences that I'm one of those people who believes in beautiful at any size but I also believe the truest way to love yourself is to love yourself as you are & simultaneously work toward a healthier weight. I'm happy to say that I'm back to a healthy weight now. I think my personal experiences are what make me so interested in & open-minded in regards to that show.
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Mari
Ive experienced lots of fat shaming ever since I was about 7 or 8. I never got to experience what it was like to be pretty and that let me to become anorexic and very depressed. When I lost weight people started treating me like I was more of an equal. That just made me not want to eat food at all. Thankfully, my mom started to notice what was going on and helped me through this. She made sure I ate and monitored my weight to make sure I was getting healthy. Since I couldnt not eat I started eating food for comfort. I gained back all (if not more) of my weight and people just shame me constantly. Right now I am trying to loose weight in a healthy way by workin out and eating better. I just want to say that if you fat shame someone youre not helping them. Youre just making them feel even more worthless. I support body positivity as long as people are being healthy and happy. I dont agree with people that say its ok to be obese because its a real health issue. It is ok to have some extra weight on you as long as you are healthy.
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Ive experienced lots of fat shaming ever since I was about 7 or 8. I never got to experience what it was like to be pretty and that let me to become anorexic and very depressed. When I lost weight people started treating me like I was more of an equal. That just made me not want to eat food at all. Thankfully, my mom started to notice what was going on and helped me through this. She made sure I ate and monitored my weight to make sure I was getting healthy. Since I couldnt not eat I started eating food for comfort. I gained back all (if not more) of my weight and people just shame me constantly. Right now I am trying to loose weight in a healthy way by workin out and eating better. I just want to say that if you fat shame someone youre not helping them. Youre just making them feel even more worthless. I support body positivity as long as people are being healthy and happy. I dont agree with people that say its ok to be obese because its a real health issue. It is ok to have some extra weight on you as long as you are healthy.
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Serious Retail
I think I'm generally freaked out over an idea that you can look that amazing but just having your mouth wired shut. I think it gives people all kind of bad ideas. I think it also points out that if she just stopped stuffing food in her mouth she would be pretty, when some people are fat for other reasons, depression and lack of energy/exercise. Since it's a comedy I doubt it will go into any issues she had due to just being on a feeding tube or that once she was no longer on that feeding tube, that she would start to gain weight again. I do agree that we should watch it first, but I'm generally turned off from even watching it because it's premise. Couldn't someone in the hospital just mixup a coma patient that looks like her and she is compensating her to get revenge? I dunno. I'm not gonna jump on the Think of the children bandwagon, I'm just going to say Tone deaf' and not interested with a heavy helping of eye rolling and eww.
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I think I'm generally freaked out over an idea that you can look that amazing but just having your mouth wired shut. I think it gives people all kind of bad ideas. I think it also points out that if she just stopped stuffing food in her mouth she would be pretty, when some people are fat for other reasons, depression and lack of energy/exercise. Since it's a comedy I doubt it will go into any issues she had due to just being on a feeding tube or that once she was no longer on that feeding tube, that she would start to gain weight again. I do agree that we should watch it first, but I'm generally turned off from even watching it because it's premise. Couldn't someone in the hospital just mixup a coma patient that looks like her and she is compensating her to get revenge? I dunno. I'm not gonna jump on the Think of the children bandwagon, I'm just going to say Tone deaf' and not interested with a heavy helping of eye rolling and eww.
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birdwithabrokenwing
As someone who really battled to loose the huge amount of weight I gained due to an illness, I hate bullying in all forms. however- we need to stop promoting fatness as a positive thing and encourage people to get help and loose weight. I agree that is disgusting to treat someone differently because of their weight and I have definitely experienced it myself- but no fat person really wants to be fat, and this fat positivity stuff is nonsense and promotes unhealthy lifestyles. It just gives people an excuse not to loose weight. People who are obese need positive encouragement and kindness and support so they can improve their lives and loose some weight. Body positivity was originally supposed to promote realistic body image in relation to over skinny photoshopped model bodies- being a healthy weight or slightly overweight is absolutely fine- being obese is not.
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As someone who really battled to loose the huge amount of weight I gained due to an illness, I hate bullying in all forms. however- we need to stop promoting fatness as a positive thing and encourage people to get help and loose weight. I agree that is disgusting to treat someone differently because of their weight and I have definitely experienced it myself- but no fat person really wants to be fat, and this fat positivity stuff is nonsense and promotes unhealthy lifestyles. It just gives people an excuse not to loose weight. People who are obese need positive encouragement and kindness and support so they can improve their lives and loose some weight. Body positivity was originally supposed to promote realistic body image in relation to over skinny photoshopped model bodies- being a healthy weight or slightly overweight is absolutely fine- being obese is not.
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Charlotte Forsyth
As a fat person who has dealed with body issues, I think insatiable is toxic, problematic, and will promote eating disorders to already impressionable teens. It shows to teens that if they dont eat, they become skinny and desirable. The show could have been something great about a plus sized person learning to love them self and learning they are badass without having to lose weight. But from the trailer, it seems to be toxic and harmful. In the same way 13 reasons why romanticizes suicide, this show will promote disordered eating. I hope it doesn't do that (but I'm doubtful) and I will obviously watch it to see if I'm correct or not. It just would be nice where there is a show or something in media that doesn't make fat people a joke or make them the before picture.
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As a fat person who has dealed with body issues, I think insatiable is toxic, problematic, and will promote eating disorders to already impressionable teens. It shows to teens that if they dont eat, they become skinny and desirable. The show could have been something great about a plus sized person learning to love them self and learning they are badass without having to lose weight. But from the trailer, it seems to be toxic and harmful. In the same way 13 reasons why romanticizes suicide, this show will promote disordered eating. I hope it doesn't do that (but I'm doubtful) and I will obviously watch it to see if I'm correct or not. It just would be nice where there is a show or something in media that doesn't make fat people a joke or make them the before picture.
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Jonathan Andersen
In my honest opinion, I think that fat shaming is a good idea. being fat is not healthy. Being fat is not a good thing. Being fat is not beautiful. Being fat should not be as acceptable as it is coming to be. I've seen many people who were miserable because of their sizes, and I've also seen people who didn't even realize how big an issue it was for them. The extreme stretch marks they have, the inability to run like so many other, the inability to walk great distances without getting exhausted/breathing heavy after 5 minutes of walking. Being fat. and forgive me if this sounds harsh. but it's disgusting. Because of fat shaming (A mild kind, I must admit, compared to many others) I lost 10 kg. Then I started seeing the benefits in losing weight instead of gaining it.
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In my honest opinion, I think that fat shaming is a good idea. being fat is not healthy. Being fat is not a good thing. Being fat is not beautiful. Being fat should not be as acceptable as it is coming to be. I've seen many people who were miserable because of their sizes, and I've also seen people who didn't even realize how big an issue it was for them. The extreme stretch marks they have, the inability to run like so many other, the inability to walk great distances without getting exhausted/breathing heavy after 5 minutes of walking. Being fat. and forgive me if this sounds harsh. but it's disgusting. Because of fat shaming (A mild kind, I must admit, compared to many others) I lost 10 kg. Then I started seeing the benefits in losing weight instead of gaining it.
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